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MIL Sleeps over at our house once a week

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TwoBabas · 14/12/2022 16:00

Mother in Law is in her sixties, retired and sadly widowed.. we get along nicely but we are two very different people.

She lives a forty minute drive away but is a nervous driver...wont drive in the dark/ bad weather/uses SATNAV for every trip even when she knows the route for reassurance.
Since my firstborn (daughter) arrived she has been coming over to 'help out' once a week. It was initially a casual arrangement as I wanted her to bond with her grandchildren and for her to feel welcome in our home as I know she has struggled with depression since the death of her husband. She doesn't really have friends/hobbies. At first I thought she would eventually get back on her feet and build a life for herself but that is not happening and now I fear I have dug myself a hole. The issue I have is the length/time/frequency of her visits. She comes over and often doesn't want to drive home so she stays for a night, quiet often two night every single week. She doesn't ask to come on a certain day, it has turned into her texting my husband 'Will come up Thursday next week'... ect. I find it stifling as I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups. I have a 7 month old son now too and she always rocks up when I have finally got him to nap (normally early afternoon) causing our dog to go berserk and wake him up. I have asked her to text me to let me know her arrival time countless times but it just falls on deaf ears.
When she visits my two year old daughter gets very clingy to Grandma and shuns me, wanting Grandma to do everything for her and shouting 'no' at me constantly. Normally me and my daughter are super close and she is well behaved for me and doesn't shout at me like that when we are on our own. I find the dynamic/atmosphere different when Grandma is here and can't fully be myself with my daughter and discipline her the way I would on my own in front of grandma if that makes sense.

Our house only has two bedrooms and daughter has a single trundle bed that can convert to a double so Grandma ends up sharing daughters bed every week. I love their close bond and want her to enjoy a good relationship with grandma but I can't help but feel secretly hurt and like I become a back seat driver with my own daughter in my own home. Id rather she came for the day but go home before dark....... She struggles to get here in the morning as she is 'not a morning person' so that is how she weedles her way in by arriving in the afternoon not leaving much time before dark.

I don't know how to get out of this situation of having MIL staying over a couple of nights a week. Im finding it so stressful having another body in my home every week, someone else to worry about. If Im lucky enough to get both children to nap at the same time I feel obliged to sit and talk when really I want to rest and switch off. I cant get any jobs done. She never helps with cleaning/washing. Just tells me its impossible to have a clean house with two young children, and it 'looks fine' (it doesnt) ect. I end up having to make up her bed up before she arrives/pack it away when she leaves. Which may sound like nit picking but I am honestly so overwhelmed with the workload of a two year old and seven month old that it seems like a major effort to do this every week. I have to wash extra bedsheets/towels. Make extra meals, clean up after her ect.
She would be gutted if she knew I felt this way but I don't think she realises how stressed I feel with two little children, the lack of time to myself and the constant work load. In her mind I genuinely think she feels she is 'helping' but truth be told I find these long visits add to my stress.

She gravitates toward the toddler and its really my son I am struggling with and needing help with. He has been a tricky baby and is very demanding and loud alot of the time. He is frustrated at his lack of movement and it's exhausting. I would like more help with him if anything but she often disappears off out the house with my daughter to a park or cafe leaving me in the house still contending with a screaming baby. My son loves watching his sister play and I find him much easier to look after when they are together so I also feel some resentment when she comes to help but ends up making my job more difficult.

Spoke to husband about this but he feels like he needs to look after his mum and worries about her being alone and depressed and reminds me she is just trying to help ect. Which I know she is and I don't want to be completely ungrateful but I am just be honest. I dont think he would cope well if my mum came to stay over two night a week! I have tried to gently suggest this to make him aware of it but I just don't think he gets it. He is at work for most of him mums visit so it's left to me.

I worry that she is going to keep coming and staying over for a few nights a week for the rest of our life's now her feet are firmly in the door. As I can't see her changing. Also should add that when she is not at our house she also goes and spends a night at her two sisters houses with their husbands/families. Meaning she is only ever at home on her own for one or two nights a week. I don't know how they feel about this as my husband isn't close enough to them to ask.
I feel awful for her and her struggles but what can we do to help her be more comfortable building her own life/being comfortable in her own home? How can I ask her to come earlier and leave before dark as I don't really like the overnight stays. I just feel I can't hurt her feelings.

Sorry for the long rant. AIBU?

OP posts:
ExtraOnions · 14/12/2022 17:11

Crux of this seems to be that you’re jealous of your Mother-in-laws relationship with your daughter. Seems a little odd to me ..

Robin233 · 14/12/2022 17:26

Stop this now - or you'll become depressed
No more sleep over.
Tell her to go home in the light.
And for goodness sake - she's not helping - dirty woman- she's making more work
You have 2 little kids who need a clean house , their own beds and a happy mum.
Foot down now
Can't believe how selfish she's being - wonder how she'd be if the shoe was on the other foot.
She's never going to rebuild her life if you keep enabling her like this.
And if your DH says anything remind him he's not the one looking after her you are!

GabriellaMontez · 14/12/2022 17:33

Your dh is worried about his mum? He doesn't get to rent you out to take care of her.

Stop being her host. Make plans. Go out. Anywhere. Tell her it's cancelled.

Isyesterdaytomorrowtoday · 14/12/2022 17:37

Is baby going to be sharing with his sister long term? I’d move him in there and ask that she doesn’t stay for a few weeks while you settle routine then she’ll have to be on couch?

might break the habit and make it a little less comfortable

musingsinmidlife · 14/12/2022 17:42

This seems to be a mix of reasonable and unreasonable. You have some reasonable points but now you she can do no right and everything about her is wrong and bad and that is where you get unreasonable. Before you talk to your husband, you need to sit down and sort out the two. Pick the two key issues that are actually reasonable concerns and focus on those. If you start to run though your laundry list of how every single thing she has ever done is just wrong and ill-intentioned and makes your life a misery - you just sound unreasonable.

nookierookie · 14/12/2022 17:44

@ExtraOnions

I don't think that it is jealousy per se, just irritation. It's quite annoying having a guest who basically doesn't help out and creates extra work. Particularly if, as a result of this leisure time and the fact that they don't have any degree of actual responsibility for your child on an ongoing basis they basically pander to them 100% of the time whilst you do all the grunt work - means that mum gets the shitty end of the stick for 48 hours (has to do all the meals, enforce bedtime, make her wash her hands and clean her teeth, but no chance to do cuddles or stories or anything fun or that greases the wheels a bit in terms of keeping toddler onside), whilst granny does all of the fun stuff available.

MamaFirst · 14/12/2022 17:46

This would drive me crazy. Stop being so gracious, tell her you have plans, book the baby groups and the playdates etc. Don't make her bed up, let her do it herself then ask her to strip it after. Ask her to wash up or clean up etc. Tell her sorry she can't stay an extra night, you have plans. Etc.

keepcalm11 · 14/12/2022 17:48

ExtraOnions · 14/12/2022 17:11

Crux of this seems to be that you’re jealous of your Mother-in-laws relationship with your daughter. Seems a little odd to me ..

Not at all.

OP can't be herself in her own home with MIL's presence and the extra work involved with the sleepovers. Although not intentional on MIL's part it needs to stop

pelargoniums · 14/12/2022 17:49

Stop enabling her!

Make plans with friends, baby groups, etc. Especially when you know she’s coming but she hasn’t asked or communicated with you, just your DH, yet you’re the one expected to be in. Don’t be in: be out, and double lock the door. (Does she have a key?!)

Don’t make up the bed for her or prepare towels. Stop making it easy for her to stay over, especially if DH isn’t doing the work.

Meal plan and prep enough for you and DH, and lay the table for two. Basically be as rude as she’s being. If she wants to stay over, she needs to do the work or DH needs to do the work, but you can wash your hands of it.

Underanothersky · 14/12/2022 17:53

ExtraOnions · 14/12/2022 17:11

Crux of this seems to be that you’re jealous of your Mother-in-laws relationship with your daughter. Seems a little odd to me ..

I'd call that a radical interpretation of the text.

Beamur · 14/12/2022 17:58

Your DH really isn't helping here. Why isn't he stepping up and doing more?
You have lots of options.

  1. Get rid of the spare bed.
  2. Shift her visits to weekends. Tell don't ask.
  3. Still make plans, sounds like she's perfectly able to look after your toddler while you go to a baby class.
  4. Visit her at her house. That way you limit the overnight stays but still have contact.
IneedanewTV · 14/12/2022 17:58

AllotmentTime · 14/12/2022 16:18

I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups.

Yes, you can and this is your way out.

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so is it okay if we skip a week?”

Rinse and repeat until her visits are less frequent.

Point out to your husband that he is not “looking after his mum”, you are. He is asking you to sacrifice your own well-being to take care of hers. That’s not okay. He’s probably sticking his head in the sand convincing himself that she’s “helping” and that it’s all okay. Sit him down and explain kindly but firmly/clearly that this is tiring, stressful and creates more work for you, and that you’re going to be cutting down on her visits.

Are you on mat leave? If so Then what’s his/her plan for when you’re back at work?

This.

regarding the issue of driving in the dark. This is a real issue in women and is a menopausal issue. I don’t know the science but our eyes can’t adjust to the dark as well as we become menopausal. So we loose our confidence. It happens to so many woman in their late 50s early 60s. The solution is to tell your mil that you are going out in the afternoon and she needs to get to yours in the morning. But ultimately your H needs to deal with this.

SidTwaddell · 14/12/2022 17:59

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strawberry2017 · 14/12/2022 18:07

Your husband clearly isn't going to say anything so in all honesty I think you should sit down and explain how you feel and what you need.
It will be awkward but if you don't things will not change.
I think you will feel better for it once you have done it. X

MsRosley · 14/12/2022 18:10

Your needs are just bottom of the pile, aren't they, OP? Sadly you're the only one who can change it. Two days a week is ridiculous. I'd start by changing it to once a fortnight. Your DH and MIL will just have to suck it up - it's your house, your life, your decision, especially given your DH isn't the one having to deal with most of it.

EL8888 · 14/12/2022 18:11

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 14/12/2022 16:41

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so is it okay if we skip a week?”

this, except don’t ask for permission! It’s your house, own it.

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so we can’t have you over this week. We’re next available on x date if you want to come over then - let me know what dates work for you.”

Get into the habit of saying what works for you and what doesn’t, nothing personal about it, just make it clear that arrangements need to be mutually agreeable.

All this. I wouldn’t be asking, l would be telling. She is taking over too much and dominating too much of your time. It sounds too me like she is using this as a mini few days away each week. Lovely for her l am sure but not fair on you! You are the busy one after all, not her. Tell DH to sort this properly or do it yourself if he’s too wet

MsRosley · 14/12/2022 18:12

ExtraOnions · 14/12/2022 17:11

Crux of this seems to be that you’re jealous of your Mother-in-laws relationship with your daughter. Seems a little odd to me ..

This reeks of misogyny. Perhaps you overdid the onions.

NancyJoan · 14/12/2022 18:16

Get in before her and invite her at the weekend. Then you and your DD can go out for a treat and leave her and DH to care for the baby.

PossiblyOverstepping · 14/12/2022 18:17

She’s only in her 60s! Most of us will still be working then (and driving). You’ll have to be out. Tell you you’ll be out then stick to it . Are you going back to work ? That’ll stop it anyway (do not tell her if you WFH!)

suzyscat · 14/12/2022 18:18

musingsinmidlife · 14/12/2022 17:42

This seems to be a mix of reasonable and unreasonable. You have some reasonable points but now you she can do no right and everything about her is wrong and bad and that is where you get unreasonable. Before you talk to your husband, you need to sit down and sort out the two. Pick the two key issues that are actually reasonable concerns and focus on those. If you start to run though your laundry list of how every single thing she has ever done is just wrong and ill-intentioned and makes your life a misery - you just sound unreasonable.

Love this!

Have to agree OP this would drive me nuts but I'd also be very conscious that one day I could be the lonely grieving MIL. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have boundaries and don't have to look after your own needs though.

Definitely make your own plans, baby groups etc. I'd also offer to visit her too and put the onus on hosting on her.

Good on your DH for caring about his mum, but it's poor form for him to let you bare the brunt of this.

Proudofitbabe · 14/12/2022 18:19

Gosh you're a Saint, OP! I'd hate this, it's an imposition and in reality is totally selfish of your MIL (and your DH) since really it's them suiting themselves under the guise of being "helpful" to you. Then making you feel ungrateful for not actually wanting something you didn't ask for!

As others have said it's for your DH to solve. If he's worried his mum is lonely he can call round on his way home from work, or take the kids to her at weekends to give you an actual break! It's his mum not yours, let them entertain themselves a bit!

Purplecatshopaholic · 14/12/2022 18:22

Your DH needs to Man Up and tell her to cut down on the visits. If it were me, I would also get rid of the trundle bed, and tell her the kids are going to be sharing for the next few years, so there’s no room for her to stay… (but that’s me - I couldn’t stand someone being around all the time and staying over! You are obviously more tolerant…)

ICanHideButICantRun · 14/12/2022 18:24

Does she come for two nights in a run or two separate nights?

Helpwithdaughterpls · 14/12/2022 18:27

Why isn't your husband looking after the donkey work of having her to stay? So weird.

RandomUsernameHere · 14/12/2022 18:30

Cocolapew · 14/12/2022 16:21

Tell your DH to take the DCs to see his mum at the weekend if he wants them to have a relationship. It's not up to you to manage her.
I'd go mad if my Dh allowed this to happen.

Completely agree with this.