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MIL Sleeps over at our house once a week

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TwoBabas · 14/12/2022 16:00

Mother in Law is in her sixties, retired and sadly widowed.. we get along nicely but we are two very different people.

She lives a forty minute drive away but is a nervous driver...wont drive in the dark/ bad weather/uses SATNAV for every trip even when she knows the route for reassurance.
Since my firstborn (daughter) arrived she has been coming over to 'help out' once a week. It was initially a casual arrangement as I wanted her to bond with her grandchildren and for her to feel welcome in our home as I know she has struggled with depression since the death of her husband. She doesn't really have friends/hobbies. At first I thought she would eventually get back on her feet and build a life for herself but that is not happening and now I fear I have dug myself a hole. The issue I have is the length/time/frequency of her visits. She comes over and often doesn't want to drive home so she stays for a night, quiet often two night every single week. She doesn't ask to come on a certain day, it has turned into her texting my husband 'Will come up Thursday next week'... ect. I find it stifling as I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups. I have a 7 month old son now too and she always rocks up when I have finally got him to nap (normally early afternoon) causing our dog to go berserk and wake him up. I have asked her to text me to let me know her arrival time countless times but it just falls on deaf ears.
When she visits my two year old daughter gets very clingy to Grandma and shuns me, wanting Grandma to do everything for her and shouting 'no' at me constantly. Normally me and my daughter are super close and she is well behaved for me and doesn't shout at me like that when we are on our own. I find the dynamic/atmosphere different when Grandma is here and can't fully be myself with my daughter and discipline her the way I would on my own in front of grandma if that makes sense.

Our house only has two bedrooms and daughter has a single trundle bed that can convert to a double so Grandma ends up sharing daughters bed every week. I love their close bond and want her to enjoy a good relationship with grandma but I can't help but feel secretly hurt and like I become a back seat driver with my own daughter in my own home. Id rather she came for the day but go home before dark....... She struggles to get here in the morning as she is 'not a morning person' so that is how she weedles her way in by arriving in the afternoon not leaving much time before dark.

I don't know how to get out of this situation of having MIL staying over a couple of nights a week. Im finding it so stressful having another body in my home every week, someone else to worry about. If Im lucky enough to get both children to nap at the same time I feel obliged to sit and talk when really I want to rest and switch off. I cant get any jobs done. She never helps with cleaning/washing. Just tells me its impossible to have a clean house with two young children, and it 'looks fine' (it doesnt) ect. I end up having to make up her bed up before she arrives/pack it away when she leaves. Which may sound like nit picking but I am honestly so overwhelmed with the workload of a two year old and seven month old that it seems like a major effort to do this every week. I have to wash extra bedsheets/towels. Make extra meals, clean up after her ect.
She would be gutted if she knew I felt this way but I don't think she realises how stressed I feel with two little children, the lack of time to myself and the constant work load. In her mind I genuinely think she feels she is 'helping' but truth be told I find these long visits add to my stress.

She gravitates toward the toddler and its really my son I am struggling with and needing help with. He has been a tricky baby and is very demanding and loud alot of the time. He is frustrated at his lack of movement and it's exhausting. I would like more help with him if anything but she often disappears off out the house with my daughter to a park or cafe leaving me in the house still contending with a screaming baby. My son loves watching his sister play and I find him much easier to look after when they are together so I also feel some resentment when she comes to help but ends up making my job more difficult.

Spoke to husband about this but he feels like he needs to look after his mum and worries about her being alone and depressed and reminds me she is just trying to help ect. Which I know she is and I don't want to be completely ungrateful but I am just be honest. I dont think he would cope well if my mum came to stay over two night a week! I have tried to gently suggest this to make him aware of it but I just don't think he gets it. He is at work for most of him mums visit so it's left to me.

I worry that she is going to keep coming and staying over for a few nights a week for the rest of our life's now her feet are firmly in the door. As I can't see her changing. Also should add that when she is not at our house she also goes and spends a night at her two sisters houses with their husbands/families. Meaning she is only ever at home on her own for one or two nights a week. I don't know how they feel about this as my husband isn't close enough to them to ask.
I feel awful for her and her struggles but what can we do to help her be more comfortable building her own life/being comfortable in her own home? How can I ask her to come earlier and leave before dark as I don't really like the overnight stays. I just feel I can't hurt her feelings.

Sorry for the long rant. AIBU?

OP posts:
SuperFly123 · 14/12/2022 18:34

Wow. You have a serious DH problem here.

Unicorn717 · 14/12/2022 18:35

It's your husbands mum, he should be the one running around after her.

I'm all for company and having people over but someone just turning up and expecting to stay over and all the rest of it would just piss me off.

Message her and say that you're doing to be busy most days if you don't want her to come over every week. Then she can fit her visits around that. At least then it's set out and she won't just rock up whenever.

Mention your kids will be sharing a room soon too and they need a routine. She wouldn't be able to sleep in a bed anymore so hopefully the sofa might put her off a bit and she might not want to do it as much anymore anyway.

Or go to hers so you can leave when you feel like you've had enough.

Nothing worse than people not getting the hint that you've had enough and feel uncomfortable in your own home and they just won't leave.

You should be telling her, it's your home.

ZenNudist · 14/12/2022 18:35

Step one DH tells her that you want to make the most of your mat leave so to check he's going to be in before she just turns up. Step 2 make your plans with friends and baby groups and go to them. Step 3. DH is in when she is around, its not up to you to babysit her. Step 4 get on with your jobs. Askher to look after baby so you can do this. Step 5 DH to make up strip and wash bedding. Step 6. Don't apologise.

Perhaps suggest dd goes to hers from time to time. Dh can bring her over.

Dillydollydingdong · 14/12/2022 18:37

As a MIL myself, I can't think of anything worse. I do see my son's family at least twice a week (at their request, usually to pickup kids from school) but I'll stay for a cup of tea with ddil, and then get off home for a bit of peace and quiet.

Soothsayer1 · 14/12/2022 18:38

she's moving in by stealth, I'd be out every time she visits

neverendinglauaundry · 14/12/2022 18:42

😱
Eventually you can transition to sleep overs at grandma's for your daughter?

Virginiaplain · 14/12/2022 18:48

Well don’t keep washing the sheets.
Alter beds so she can’t sleep with Dd
Tell her to take DS for a nice walk to the park - tell her you find it harder to amuse DS when she takes Dd out so not to do it
Tell her to look after DS while you clean
tell her you want some peace If DCs asleep -so go read a book

Panjandrum123 · 14/12/2022 18:49

curiositydoll · 14/12/2022 16:18

This would drive me insane too.

Why isn't DH the one sorting the bed and bedding out?

What happens if you tell MIL you have plans in the afternoon/evening? Does she come anyway? Definitely stop putting your life on hold/not making plans with your friends.

This ⬆️

If you don’t know which days she’s coming, then make plans. Go out to playgroups etc, meet your friends.

If she wants to visit she has to fit around you and the children. Tell her your schedule so she doesn’t just turn up and have to sit outside till you return as she’ll cry and that will alienate your DH. “This week MIL, Thursday is ok, next week Tuesday.”

And push some of the laundry load etc back onto your DH.

Coffeepot72 · 14/12/2022 18:52

I couldn’t stand this OP

LIZS · 14/12/2022 18:58

You should make plans then she has to fit in. Maybe she can babysit while you take dd out alone to an activity, Try to wean her visits down to morning/lunch only or meet her at a neutral location like a petting zoo.

33goingon64 · 14/12/2022 19:02
  1. Ask her to bring her own bedding and a towel. Within close family, I think that's perfectly reasonable.
  2. Your DH is not 'looking after her'. You are. Show him what you've written here and ask him to find a solution.
  3. I can't believe the number of threads on MN where a DIL is expected to manage a demanding PIL and the DH is nowhere to be seen. Cowards, the lot of them.
Suzi888 · 14/12/2022 19:04

So awkward. I’ve been in a similar situation….
Luckily for me my MIL met someone…

In your position it’s awkward as your DH is totally on board with it. It always falls to the woman.

I would use it to my advantage, MIL takes both children, I would go shopping, get nails done, go out by myself, make this date night for you and DH?

Alternatively, you’ll have to tell her to decrease the visit to once a fortnight (at least I’d start with that). Say you’ll be attending clubs with the children.

FurAndFeathers · 14/12/2022 19:05

@TwoBabas Have you told her you’d like her to help with the baby? Why not use her for childcare for DS and arrange something nice with DD? It sounds like you’re passively stewing and you need to be a lot more (politely) direct.

could you say “Oh MIL I’m glad you’re coming this Thursday because DD and I have a toddler group/play date booked, so you can have quality time at home with DS whilst we’re out, and we’ll be back in time for tea”

when she gets up say “morning mil would you mind stripping the bed before you go please, it would be SUCH a help”

be polite, be direct and stop pussyfooting around and accommodating her preferences at the expense of your well-being. If she objects then simply say, “oh I’m sorry you can’t fit in with our plans, but we’re rather busy at the moment, so we’ll see you on x date instead”

make your expectations clear. Also yes to getting your DH to step up!

RunLolaRun102 · 14/12/2022 19:09

I think your DH should take your DD for a sleepover to her house every week. It’ll give your DD access to what sounds like a lovely granny, will let you focus on DS. Then DH can pick her up for dinner once a week on a set day so you can see her socially.

Itsnotaferret · 14/12/2022 19:15

That's a tricky one. As u most likely have made a rod for your own back at this point. You've got to change the status quo and put her off one week like a PP said and slowly slowly the visits can become less and less hopefully. Good luck

SleekMamma · 14/12/2022 19:17

Yep, polite but direct is the way forward here.
Change one week visit to the weekend. Then you bugger off and leave them all to it.
Next week ask her to make the bed up as you haven't had time.
Book a toddler activity and leave baby with her.
The next week say oh I've got X booked can we skip a week
The next week say I have to be at xyz place by 4pm.

You are going to have to craft the reduction

Catnipcapers · 14/12/2022 19:22

I could have written most of this post myself, some differences of course, I've had almost 8 years of weekly sleepovers now. I find it very hard having someone stay that often and it has affected how I feel about MIL.

frostyfours · 14/12/2022 19:23

Not BU at all. I would hate this!

Lucyccfc68 · 14/12/2022 19:25

If she is coming to ‘help out’ then why are you running around after her. Give her a list of jobs to do, get her to make her own bed (once you have cut her down to staying over to once a month).

So, she can wash pots, put washing in the machine, put the hoover round, polish and make the tea. Get those big girl knickers on and give her stuff to do, if she insists on coming to help.

RitaSueandBobtwo · 14/12/2022 19:28

I couldn’t be on with that. She is taking the pee.

Text her to say we are really busy next week Tues to Fri afternoons so could you come on Monday or miss next week. Alternatively it would be really good if you came to us on Saturday afternoon next week as DH and I could really do with some time on our own to go shopping or to have some much needed time on our own. If she can’t fit in with your plans and you don’t make it easy for her she will eventually get the message.

Or if you get wind from DH that she is coming on a particular afternoon just go out and she’ll have to wait in the car. Saying your so sorry I am so frazzled at the moment its probably better if we agree a mutually convenient date and time between ourselves going forward rather than you agreeing with DH as he’s not usually in and he forgets to let me know.

CHRIST0PHERR0BIN · 14/12/2022 19:39

She doesn't ask to come on a certain day, it has turned into her texting my husband 'Will come up Thursday next week'

"Sorry, Twobabs is out on Thursday. We are free Monday or Wednesday?"

I have a 7 month old son now too and she always rocks up when I have finally got him to nap (normally early afternoon) causing our dog to go berserk

Dont answer the door. You didnt hear it. She will learn to text.

I find the dynamic/atmosphere different when Grandma is here and can't fully be myself with my daughter and discipline her the way I would on my own in front of grandma if that makes sense.

"Right Grandma, Im off out to the gym/lunch and will be back in 2 hrs. Enjoy".

She gravitates toward the toddler and its really my son I am struggling with

"You really do have the magic touch with DD. But its DS im struggling with, could you help? Im going to take DD to a class/out for a treat once a week while you mind DS", She cant really say no and then expect to keep coming.

Spoke to husband about this but he feels like he needs to look after his mum and worries about her being alone and depressed and reminds me she is just trying to help ect.

Then he wont mind doing the washing after she leaves and making the evening meal while shes staying. after all he needs to look after his mum.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 14/12/2022 19:40

This can't be easy however I'm not sure if you are making it harder on yourself than you need it to be.

You can do classes whenever you want. She texts your husband 'I'll be down Wednesday', your husband responds 'that's fine, OP will be around most of the day other than the baby class'

You dont need to wash her bedding each time, she has only slept in it one night! Just implement a new rule that your husband is responsible for putting it away as it is and getting it out again.

She is family and wants to help. You can make use of this. Just say 'thank god you're here, I'm dying for a nap, babys next bottle is due in an hour' and disappear. Or you tell her in advance that you need some bonding time with your daughter and ask if you can leave your son with her.

Finally you can just lie. tell her you're doing kit days or have joined a group that meets fortnightly and would love to still see her but it will only be every second week. Or drive to her or meet half way so they doesn't stay.

There are solutions!

FOJN · 14/12/2022 19:41

Spoke to husband about this but he feels like he needs to look after his mum and worries about her being alone and depressed and reminds me she is just trying to help ect.

If he feels he needs to look after his mum then he needs to do that rather than assume you will do it for him. And he's such a generous soul he jogs your memory to remind you that the visitor who does nothing at all is just trying to help. That would earn him a pretty quick fuck off from me.

Tell him he needs to take the kids to his mum's at the weekend or he needs to start taking days of during the week so that he can host the woman he's so keen to look after.

olympicsrock · 14/12/2022 19:44

It’s far too much and needs to change. DH needs to support you with this. Weekend visits when DH is around, no more overnights.
DS needs to move in with DD. Be very busy - start by finding a few baby classes in the morning and ask MIL to arrive at 9:30 to babysit for you. She can leave mid afternoon at nap time.

toomuchlaundry · 14/12/2022 19:45

If DH worries about MIL he needs to help her get a life and her own friends and hobbies, she is only in her sixties