to be so narked about the vile child at toddler group

[IndigoMoon]

I go to a toddler group on a friday, I go with a friend and it is a lovely group. It gets me out, i get a cup of coffee and a biscuit and ds tires himself out.

there is one child who is 2 years plus and he is the most awful kid! he kicks, punches and generally runs riot with no supervision from his mom.

we were sitting in a circle today just before the end doing the singing bit and ds was crawling to me. this child ran up to him and kicked him in the face!!!!

i went ballistic, stood up with screaming ds (14 months) and shouted at this mom that her son had just kicked my son.

the boy had run to her and she just shrugged. she then bought her son over to play again and asked if ds was ok. i said yes but said that it was particulary nasty, no accident. she said "ah he is a child" at which i said yes but it was vicious. the boy then went on to try to kick another child, punched a child and generally again was allowed to get away with it.

i spoke to one of the leaders and they did have a word with her but a few moms came and asked if i was alright and commented on how awful this child is.

i am more than likely going next week i am tempted to go and tell this mom that if her son lays another finger on my son that i am making an official complaint.

i dont think he should be made to leave but surely the group have the powers to tell her to watch him more closely!!!!!

At the mothers lack of discipline. I would be if that was my dd and would make a complete example of her. i.e. she would have to sit in a corner and face away from the group until she calmed down. She would then have to apologise to the child she hurt. DD is only 2.0 but certainly knows what behaviour is acceptable.

Perhaps we could report wayward toddlers to this man?

The police, Hunkermunker. Although it may be more practical and within proportion to have these matters dealt with by the community support officers.

People are often mental about toddlers though. They need kind, firm guidance, not ott isolation - I think often people want to put on a show of how well they paid attention to Supernanny and don't consider their own child and how best they respond to discipline.

The child is 2 years old. Don't call him vile!

FF, you're fucking with me, no?

If not, you have some scary-ass notions.

OMFG, As if the police/CSO don't have enough to deal with.
LMFAO

I think FF might be taking the piss (well, I thought it was funny)

Potty Mouth.

Sit in a corner and face the wall????
I'm shocked, I really am aghast at how peopel think toddlers yes toddlers* ie, not much more than a baby's, agression should be dealt with.

fenella fudge for pm.

I just knew the OP would be slated for using the word "vile"...

Thank you, Fennella. Are you just enough to give your kids a treat, btw?

would you do that to your child in public tori, really?

see, this is my point. we all have different ways of disciplining

what works for one parent is something another one would never consider.

don;t know if either method is better or right, but we all do what we feel comfortable doing publicly.

at the end of the day we are all doing the best we can , sometimes we just don;t , for whatever reason !

I think, as I say, some people think they're showing others how to discipline toddlers "correctly".

Tori:

"if that was my dd and would make a complete example of her"

To whom? Toddlers or other parents? The toddlers wouldn't care and if I saw you doing that with such a young child, I'd be very

I dont follow, Hunkermunker - no need to explain though, no doubt it would be yet more vulgarity.

Old Cadbury's advert, FF.

A finger of fudge is just enough

To give your kids a treat. #

It's probably on YouTube somewhere

Thanks for assuming I was being rude though.

If ds1 is really naughty I growl at him that I will put a duvet on his bed.

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I think what everyone is forgetting is it is perfectly normal for toddlers to be agressive, they are going through all these feelings of frustration and anger and control that they didn;t even know existed, especially in a situation like a toddler group.
It shouldn't be about punishing them, it should be about finding out why they are doing it and explaining why it is wrong.
He is a toddler ffs not a grown man.

i'm all for time outs. i have even put my kids in tine out in tesco before now.

some 2year olds and extremly boisterious and can be quite horrible at times. dd1 was the most placid child ever, dd2 was hard work, very energetic but not horrid with it. she exhausted me.

dd3 can be rather over-boisterious and i do have to pull her off her sisters regularly. she kicks, punches, pinches etc a lot more than her sisters ever did.

i dont go to toddler groups as find that very hard work myself with trying to fit in, and keep a check on dd's behaviour. give me the park anyday instead.

I'm not being precious, but I do think it's weird to call a baby 'vile' unless as part of a clear joke. I sympathise with the OP's predicament, but be a grown up about it - speak to the woman again (calmly, politely), speak to the group leader (privately, sensitively)...but don't label the child at the age of 2 yrs old, FFS.

Agree completely with LadyVic

VS, you're not talking about believing your children are people, are you? Jeez!

I would say something to the 2yo's mum, actually. But kindly. Not "going ballistic" at her. It's hard enough, having children, without everybody being so chippy about it.