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Are women getting angrier?

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Bosebeau · 07/12/2022 08:52

The BBC have published an article about rising anger and stress levels in women…as if this is news!

Yes I am angry. I am angry that equality means I get out to go and have a job whilst still having to pick up most of the domestic work at home. I am angry that I pay most of the bills, but still have to be the one who organises Christmas, birthdays, the weekly food shop and even pull the damn blinds every morning.

I am angry that when I bring it up with my partner I am told “just tell me what you want me to do and I’ll do it”….you’re 40 fucking years old, the floor is dirty you shouldn’t need to be told to put the hoover round.

Im angry that the washing basket is overflowing with his clothes because they haven’t been washed in 5 weeks, but I’ve stopped doing his washing to see at what point he notices.

bloody hell BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63874001

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Soothsayer1 · 07/12/2022 18:11

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that's a very black & white take on things....the most successful predators don't reveal their true colours until the victim is locked down & powerless. They have a lot to gain from fooling women into being their servants, that's why they put so much effort in!

mackthepony · 07/12/2022 18:16

Shame on the BBC.

Wtaf - angry? What about confident, assertive, financially independent? Waking up to men's weaponised incompetentce?

Goes hand in hand with that 'common stuff' question to the two female PM's.

TheKeatingFive · 07/12/2022 18:18

Women should be a lot more angry, in reality. Look where 'be kind' has got us?

5128gap · 07/12/2022 18:23

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No, I'd imagine she's angry because she chose a decent person to marry, who has ended up to be shit in some very predictable ways.
This type of behaviour is so very prevalent and the bar so low, that unless he also abuses her, cheats or is an alcoholic, in the eyes of the world he's probably quite the catch.
This isn't about one woman making an unwise choice, it's about the creeping realisation for many women that even a relatively good choice is often simply not good enough. Especially in the context of the other challenges and barriers unique to women.

Grimchmas · 07/12/2022 18:24

I'm angry that GaggleOfSwans* *seems to be blaming all of another poster's list of things they are angry about on them making poor marital/reproductive choices.

I'm angry about the same things as them, just so you know. I wonder what you'll dismiss my list as down to.

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 18:25

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The majority (by here and friends' experiences anyway) don't reveal their shitness until children and the responsibilities that comes with them comes along. I think many, many men have deep rooted ideas about what a woman's role is, which are kept well hidden in the early wooing, dating, rope you in days. Then it's too late.

My colleague's husband sounds horrific. Not physically abusive but coercive and manipulative who cannot decide for himself what to eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner until she relents and does it for him. Ditto cleaning etc. She swears blind he wasn't like that until marriage/kid/mortgage came along.

GaggleOfSwans · 07/12/2022 19:08

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OMG12 · 07/12/2022 19:33

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youre talking a load of rubbish “those who are happy with themselves usually don’t hate others” you’re not talking to a 3 year old who has fallen out with their BFF at nursery you know

You’re talking to intelligent grown women (defined as adult female human) who have had enough of men trying to dictate their lives, invading spaces, mutilating children, putting forward an ideology which gives rapists access to women in prison, vulnerable women in hospital, both of which have led to rapes.

im extremely happy and confident in myself, but I despise the group of people intent on trying to undermine my identity, of pushing such a harmful agenda, of threats of violence for daring to disagree with them as they’re so used to make privilege. Do you tell Jews they were just not happy with themselves for hating Hitler or black people should just sort their self esteem instead of hating the KKK?

GaggleOfSwans · 07/12/2022 19:58

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VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:02

*Are you comparing trans people to the KKK?

Not sure I’m talking to an intelligent woman after reading your post.

Its very common for those consumed with self hatred to lash out, look at Incels.*

Not sure you're an intelligent woman either if that's all you could take from that post.

GaggleOfSwans · 07/12/2022 20:09

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OMG12 · 07/12/2022 20:10

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I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing. Try again! It really doesn’t take much to understand where the comparison lies. And it’s not comparing TRAs with the KKK it’s comparing different groups reaction to whoever their attackers and persecutors are.

But by all means carry on being brainwashed by a harmful ideology, it saves you having to think for yourself after all.

I won’t be engaging further as I don’t argue with donkeys who think the grass is blue😂.

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:12

It's possible to be generally happy, not have 'self hatred' as you say, and have anger at situations. The erosion of women's right to sex based spaces is a valid one. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else. It's a select group from that section that incites anger in women, and justifiably so.

If you can't see or understand that then hey ho.

Moonatics · 07/12/2022 20:15

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:02

*Are you comparing trans people to the KKK?

Not sure I’m talking to an intelligent woman after reading your post.

Its very common for those consumed with self hatred to lash out, look at Incels.*

Not sure you're an intelligent woman either if that's all you could take from that post.

Be fair, gaggle is not even a woman. in fact the writing style reminds me of someone. Cant think who.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/12/2022 20:16

I am angry. We should all be angry. Anger has a long history of bringing about positive change. In addition to anger, I am also hopeful, because I believe deeply in the ability of human beings to remake themselves for the better.
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

GaggleOfSwans · 07/12/2022 20:17

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GaggleOfSwans · 07/12/2022 20:18

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OMG12 · 07/12/2022 20:20

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Oh damn, wasn’t going to respond but I’m going to have to cheer you on here, I always love a good giggle, please keep posting- loving it

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:21

@GaggleOfSwans the alternative, that you are indeed a woman (assuming you know what one is) is really fucking depressing 😂.

Anyhoo, I'm off to get the help I need to deal with my self hatred and anger.

VladmirsPoutine · 07/12/2022 20:24

Men used to use the very tired "You'll be 40 with no kids and no husband, only you and your cats." As a means to terrify women and now that women are replying that that sounds fine to them it's really put the shitters up the men. If a woman can now be financially independent and have ostensibly no 'need' for a man then where does that leave the men. There's a reason why childfree single women and married men live longest with greater reports of happiness. I don't think it's so much that women have become angry, I think they now have the platforms and means to really say it with no fear.

ghostyslovesheets · 07/12/2022 20:24

I was at Greenham! I was angry then and I am still angry - I'm angry that I STILL have to be angry - it's shit

Happy at home, happy in work (but stressed) but fucking angry politically

ghostyslovesheets · 07/12/2022 20:25

VladmirsPoutine · 07/12/2022 20:24

Men used to use the very tired "You'll be 40 with no kids and no husband, only you and your cats." As a means to terrify women and now that women are replying that that sounds fine to them it's really put the shitters up the men. If a woman can now be financially independent and have ostensibly no 'need' for a man then where does that leave the men. There's a reason why childfree single women and married men live longest with greater reports of happiness. I don't think it's so much that women have become angry, I think they now have the platforms and means to really say it with no fear.

well I have 3 kids but I am 52 - single by choice for 14 years and I have 5 cats - that makes me happy!

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:26

I'm 40, no husband, kids AND I dislike cats. I'm fucked!

ghostyslovesheets · 07/12/2022 20:28

VinoDino · 07/12/2022 20:26

I'm 40, no husband, kids AND I dislike cats. I'm fucked!

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Redlorryyellowlorryblue · 07/12/2022 20:28

5128gap · 07/12/2022 15:34

A person doesn't need to be amazing to cook a meal, clean a floor and care for a child. They are extremely basic life skills. I don't believe for one moment that they are done by women because women are naturally better at them and men somehow less able. Just how incapable would men have to be for domestic work to genuinely be beyond them? Yet somehow they can do their 'Big Jobs'?
It's just a comforting and patronising lie told to women to manipulate them into doing the drudge work, while thinking its really important and only they are capable of it.

This