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Are women getting angrier?

233 replies

Bosebeau · 07/12/2022 08:52

The BBC have published an article about rising anger and stress levels in women…as if this is news!

Yes I am angry. I am angry that equality means I get out to go and have a job whilst still having to pick up most of the domestic work at home. I am angry that I pay most of the bills, but still have to be the one who organises Christmas, birthdays, the weekly food shop and even pull the damn blinds every morning.

I am angry that when I bring it up with my partner I am told “just tell me what you want me to do and I’ll do it”….you’re 40 fucking years old, the floor is dirty you shouldn’t need to be told to put the hoover round.

Im angry that the washing basket is overflowing with his clothes because they haven’t been washed in 5 weeks, but I’ve stopped doing his washing to see at what point he notices.

bloody hell BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63874001

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Soothsayer1 · 09/12/2022 10:41

Oh it's so hard to prove
And that is exactly why they do it, he knows fine well that this naive woman trusts him completely not to hurt her or take advantage of her, he also knows that if he rapes her she will feel as if it's her fault and she won't be able to stand up for herself
they are stealth predators

OMG12 · 09/12/2022 12:21

GerbilsForever24 · 09/12/2022 10:09

Yes this. Excuse me if I don't cheer on the small number of men who beat up the very odd rapist who attacks randomly and indiscriminately. The bulk of rape is done by men known to the woman being raped and the whole, "oh, it's so hard to prove" thing is often just a thinly veiled front for, "well, she didn't say no" or "she wore a short skirt and let him pay for dinner and drinks, what did she think was going to happen".

And frankly, even if ALL the rapists were attacked and beaten up by other men I'm not sure I see how that is helpful or a good thing.

The comment re women's spending power is a separate thing. Because it's one of the things that I'm angry about - that women DO have all this spending power but OUR needs and preferences are seldom taken into account. Research shows that, for example, financial products are largely designed for men and marketed to men. Almost every woman who has ever bought a car has a story about the way they were treated/ sold to. Thread on MN about the way tradespeople talk to women are always infuriating.

There's a huge opportunity here for businesses and marketers if they would just wake up to it.

Yes this. I bought a car and needed to take it back to have some work done. The bloke knew it was my car yet kept talking to my DH who had given Me a lift. I reminded the bloke who kept talking to my DH. So I said “it’s still my car” he looked gob smacked, I then had to explain the issue to him.

its so unconscious, you have to call them out

UglyNameChange · 09/12/2022 13:27

Lunar270 · 09/12/2022 08:41

With respect, you probably need to socialise with better men.

To correct Barbie, I can imagine women hate rapists the most but men are a close second. Men know what other men are like and there is solidarity in that alone.

That is a pretty lazy line to throw.
I’m not saying decent men can’t exist, but they are so rare (and this point in my life I have no interest getting to know men anymore) and the men that I do know are men someone I know / want to spent time with. So friends partner’s etc.

I know some men pretend to be appalled by rapist, sexual harrassers, but they don’t mean it.
FlirtsWithRhinos summarized this very well.
Men don’t see it as rape, unless it’s a stranger, in a dark alley and with violence (not that rape in and of itself isin’t already violent.

They don’t count it if it’s them, or their friends.
Many of themselves have sexually harrassed or raped women.
Number would be astronomical if we would consider anything without enthusiastic consent (line that is used a lot lately) as an assault / rape.

Axolotlquestions · 09/12/2022 14:19

A big underlying reason that women are motivated to get with a man is the need to protect themselves from the other man that would predate on them were there not a man to scare them away.

How depressing. I would rather just own a gun.

RosaGallica · 09/12/2022 22:02

@TruckerBarbie women don’t do anything about rapists? I must have imagined all the complaints, all the legal complaints where women have fought the system so hard against all the ingrained patriarchal doubt disbelief and lies to try to get convictions in a man’s world. I must have imagined all the women’s protests and groups and movements organised to try and raise awareness and educate men to not stick their dicks where they haven’t been specifically and enthusiastically invited. I must have imagined women’s aid and all the other groups, and those who run rape shelters. I must have imagined all the women who have ever campaigned for women’s rights. No, women don’t tend to start violence. Is that your only merit?

Most of the list of men attacking raises you list refer to attacks on paedophiles. The fact that some men have some standards at least doesn’t make saints or even partners out of them all. I could find far larger lists of gang rapes. Once females are adult they are deemed to have consented to any man at all times. Either you are bored with an empty life, picking quarrels for the fun of it, or you’re incredibly impossibly privileged to not ever have seen the reality of male violence.

Orangesatsuma · 09/12/2022 22:04

Yeah I’m angry that we’re expected to do everything these days!

TruckerBarbie · 09/12/2022 22:12

If the best way men can 'act' is to beat and murder each other on the off chance one of them could be a rapist, they'd be better not acting at all.

On the off chance a convicted rapist might be a rapist? 🤔

5128gap · 10/12/2022 09:04

TruckerBarbie · 09/12/2022 22:12

If the best way men can 'act' is to beat and murder each other on the off chance one of them could be a rapist, they'd be better not acting at all.

On the off chance a convicted rapist might be a rapist? 🤔

Of your 15 links, in 8 cases the man was not a convicted rapist. Hence the use of inverted commas, the terms 'alleged', 'accused" 'suspected' and even 'falsely' in the reporting. If you intend your links to be representative of male 'action', then the men they beat and kill are convicted rapists 47% of the time. Hence my use of the term off chance.

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