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Friend sold gift

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WeIsh · 30/11/2022 22:35

I should start by caveat this was a gift my father gave to my friend. My father makes absolutely terrible financial decisions all the time. My childhood friend was admiring the object when she visited my childhood home last year and without her asking he gave it to her.

It’s worth about £2k. My father is very cash poor (although reasonably asset rich). I received a text from my friend tonight saying she feels bad but she sold it.

No idea how much she sold it for. She does not need the money but my father does. She knows my parents are struggling financially. The message came completely out of the blue.

I guess he gave it to her but that was because he thought she genuinely liked it and he is very fond of her, having known her so long. (Not to mention he is very daft when it comes to finances.) I’m feeling a bit peeved about it to be honest and haven’t responded. I think it’s quite rude.

What would you do in this situation?

OP posts:
PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:02

NuffSaidSam · 30/11/2022 23:51

it's possible that the person who's bought it off her for £25, may even have broken some kind of law for fraud

Erm...I don't think so.

@NuffSaidSam

Oh - I LOVE the way you cherry picked just PART of my post to suit your agenda.

The FULL post was

it's possible that the person who's bought it off her for £25, may even have broken some kind of law for fraud. I don't know. I don't really know enough about it, but you need to find out who she sold it to.

I said I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it. But you knew that didn't you? Wink

NuffSaidSam · 01/12/2022 00:03

ifIwerenotanandroid · 01/12/2022 00:00

If someone asks £25 for an item & someone else pays what was asked, where's the fraud?

What's the legal position with 'knockers'? I know of an old person who fell victim to them when they were ill & vulnerable - all sorts of things disappeared from the house.

I don't think there is any fraud (maybe ask the poster who I was quoting?).

Not sure of the legal situation with 'knockers', if they're cold calling and being coercive then it's a completely different scenario to the one in the OP.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 01/12/2022 00:04

@NuffSaidSam I was agreeing with you.😀

NuffSaidSam · 01/12/2022 00:07

PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:02

@NuffSaidSam

Oh - I LOVE the way you cherry picked just PART of my post to suit your agenda.

The FULL post was

it's possible that the person who's bought it off her for £25, may even have broken some kind of law for fraud. I don't know. I don't really know enough about it, but you need to find out who she sold it to.

I said I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it. But you knew that didn't you? Wink

Erm...yes.

I picked the part I wanted to respond to so it was clear, that's kind of how this works!

I don't think there is any kind of fraud on the part of the buyer. I think it was a ridiculous suggestion.

Flapjackquack · 01/12/2022 00:09

PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:02

@NuffSaidSam

Oh - I LOVE the way you cherry picked just PART of my post to suit your agenda.

The FULL post was

it's possible that the person who's bought it off her for £25, may even have broken some kind of law for fraud. I don't know. I don't really know enough about it, but you need to find out who she sold it to.

I said I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it. But you knew that didn't you? Wink

But you said you didn’t know and the poster was answering you? The whole quote didn’t provide more context here? It’s how most retail businesses function, you buy something for less than its retail value and then sell it on for more. It’s up to the seller to price correctly.

PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:13

Flapjackquack · 01/12/2022 00:09

But you said you didn’t know and the poster was answering you? The whole quote didn’t provide more context here? It’s how most retail businesses function, you buy something for less than its retail value and then sell it on for more. It’s up to the seller to price correctly.

They weren't 'just answering me' ... they picked PART of what I said to make it look like I had said the person giving the OP's friend only £25 may have committed fraud. Which I never said. They conveniently omitted the bit where I said 'but I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it.'

Now quit making excuses for that poster. I know what their game is, and I'm not having it.

Flapjackquack · 01/12/2022 00:15

PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:13

They weren't 'just answering me' ... they picked PART of what I said to make it look like I had said the person giving the OP's friend only £25 may have committed fraud. Which I never said. They conveniently omitted the bit where I said 'but I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it.'

Now quit making excuses for that poster. I know what their game is, and I'm not having it.

Is it Monopoly?

Ofcourseshecan · 01/12/2022 00:17

Winniewonka · 30/11/2022 22:44

I would have to ask them if they didn't really want it, then why did they accept it and if they feel bad then perhaps they could give your father the money they received for it.

Yes, this. Incidentally, I have noticed that the most penny-pinching Scrooges I’ve met throughout my life, the sort of person who would do this, have all been at least comfortably off and often rich.

cypresstree · 01/12/2022 00:18

After selling it, how did she just suddenly realise it was worth 2K?
**

WeepingSomnambulist · 01/12/2022 00:19

PurpleButterflyWings · 01/12/2022 00:13

They weren't 'just answering me' ... they picked PART of what I said to make it look like I had said the person giving the OP's friend only £25 may have committed fraud. Which I never said. They conveniently omitted the bit where I said 'but I don't know for sure coz I don't know enough about it.'

Now quit making excuses for that poster. I know what their game is, and I'm not having it.

No one misquoted you or cherry picked. The part she missed out makes no difference to the meaning of what you said.

"They may have committed fraud" and "they may have committed fraud but I dont know enough about it" are the exact same.

You said may have. You didnt say "I think they committed fraud". The 'may have' indicates that you didnt know. Cutting the last part off the quote makes no difference.

It was obvious you didnt know, and that poster was just answering you. And you've gotten really snippy and nasty to her. No one is playing a game.

It's also pretty bloody obvious that no fraud has been committed.

saraclara · 01/12/2022 00:20

cypresstree · 01/12/2022 00:18

After selling it, how did she just suddenly realise it was worth 2K?
**

Because OP told her

Ofcourseshecan · 01/12/2022 00:20

Also I received a text from my friend tonight saying she feels bad but she sold it.

WTAF??? Is being tightfisted a religion, did Saint Skinflint appear in a vision and tell her she had to sell the gift? If she felt bad, why the hell did she do it?

Ofcourseshecan · 01/12/2022 00:22

And your dad sounds lovely.

Pallisers · 01/12/2022 00:22

She's a fool.

She sold a gift she was given a year ago for 25 quid? like why? She didn't need the 25 pounds. If she needed it out of her house so badly she could have asked if you'd take it back.

How does she get through the world? Eejit.

Flapjackquack · 01/12/2022 00:24

Ofcourseshecan · 01/12/2022 00:22

And your dad sounds lovely.

From OPs later updates I think he sounds a bit odd actually (sorry OP!).

blisstwins · 01/12/2022 00:31

forgetfulbrain · 30/11/2022 22:48

'I hope you realise that x object is worth at least £2000, dad is really struggling right now and could have really used that money, instead he chose to give it to you, because it was precious to him and he is so fond of you, I'm shocked and saddened by this and you aren't the users in I thought you were'

I think I might have to be truthful. I would be equally upset. She missed the spirit of the gift entirely.

SkylightSkylight · 01/12/2022 00:37

forgetfulbrain · 30/11/2022 22:48

'I hope you realise that x object is worth at least £2000, dad is really struggling right now and could have really used that money, instead he chose to give it to you, because it was precious to him and he is so fond of you, I'm shocked and saddened by this and you aren't the users in I thought you were'

@@WeIsh send her what @forgetfulbrain wrote!

id be hurt & upset too!

YouTarzan · 01/12/2022 00:48

@PurpleButterflyWings if you say things that are daft, people are going to point it out. It’s isn’t like real life where people just scoff behind your back 😃 Getting in a huff about doesn’t help.

WeepingSomnambulist · 01/12/2022 00:52

YouTarzan · 01/12/2022 00:48

@PurpleButterflyWings if you say things that are daft, people are going to point it out. It’s isn’t like real life where people just scoff behind your back 😃 Getting in a huff about doesn’t help.

😂

Hont1986 · 01/12/2022 01:08

OP, when you say it was worth £2k, do you mean that is how much a second-hand one sells for on the open market? Or that is how much your dad paid for it when he bought it?

dealornodeal1 · 01/12/2022 01:08

Awful. I agree with the comments for her to return it or give him the money.

Itaintwhatyoudoitsthewaythatyoudoit · 01/12/2022 01:22

CourtneeLuv · 30/11/2022 22:50

No it wasn't. In these circumstances, if she didn't want it she should have given it back.

This is what any decent person would have done.

I'd have very little to do with her from now on tbh. She doesn't sound like a good person.

Hont1986 · 01/12/2022 01:28

If you were gifted an object a year ago, and the circumstances clearly implied that this object had no sentimental or financial value to the gifter, you wouldn't offer it back. I don't know why anyone is pretending that they would have given it back, it would be completely inappropriate to return a gift like that - "here I'm done with the gift you gave me, you can have it back now".

TheSilentPicnic · 01/12/2022 01:44

It is strange that she felt the need to tell you, I find that difficult to imagine. But selling it is no biggy, it was hers to sell.

greenfieldsblueskies · 01/12/2022 02:07

Your dad sounds like a lovely man OP.
I do wonder why she couldn't have called you before she sold it to ask if you'd even want it (to sell or give back to your dad, for lack of space)

I'd be very pissed off and hurt!! I really do hope the buyer will be a kind enough to understand and return it.
I know I would! But I also know many others that wouldn't.

Sorry OP but that was a shitty thing for your friend to do

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