DH just said he agrees with the parents in NZ

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My DH has just said he wouldn't want his child treated with "vaccinated blood" either and wholeheartedly agrees with the NZ parents.

We don't have any kids but we are (were 😞) TTC.

He didn't have the vaccine which is his choice and I've tried not to discuss it with him too much because he can get very worked up about it.

He thinks vaccinated blood will give people cancer within 2-5 years. The "elites" know all about it and it would be child abuse to give a child vaccinated blood. He says deaths are up 10 fold since the vaccine.

I'm now seriously reconsidering TTC.

Wwyd in this situation? We've been together for 15 years. He never used to be an anti vaxxer. These extreme views started after the pandemic.

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My brother is an anti-vaxxer. His kids didn't have their childhood vaccinations. His daughter very nearly died. He then reluctantly allowed vaccinations. Though he is still anti-vax.
Please don't have children with the man you are with OP. I'd probably leave him tbh.

I really think that two people with such wildly opposing philosophical outlooks (and widely different intelligences) cannot be happy long term and cannot raise children together without it being a very unhappy place.

But it should be in there. If this man is loosing money and hiding it you need to know , , how are you even considering a child with him, he’s been like this for a long enough time.

Have you watched ‘Died Suddenly’ that might make you question the covid vaccine and understand why it might well be different to other vaccines that we trust as safe… I’m not anti vax-had the covid vaccine myself but strange things are happening and the death rate is up, birth rate down….watch it and see what you think

He also preps and has weapons. He has bought gold and silver too.

I almost don't want to reveal the true extent of it because it's in some way become "normal" to me. Anytime I question him he makes me out to be the crazy one.

I don't think it needs to be black and white OP. I mean surely you can have different opinions to others?

Everyone seems so polarised. I don't get it. Maybe it's because I have no social media other than mumsnet and don't watch YouTube or the like.

It's OK to have differing opinions!

Also I'm a member of the 'mainstream media'. We're just trying to write interesting things. There's nobody sending down information for us to imbue the public with. There are no big scary bosses telling us what to write or insisting we brainwash everyone.

Sometimes when working from home I write the news in my pants while drinking hot chocolate.

Just seen this. Seems OTT!

My dm fell into the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. She had been a little anti mainstream/ establishment but Trump then Covid just went to her head. She was all about anti vaccine/ 4G/ new world order etc etc. I truly believed she has/ had MH problems and was bored (she's retired). She talked a lot about these things and always had her phone on watching you tubes videos.
Once covid ended she started to do some volunteering and thankfully this past year she's become less fanatic- her brain is concentrating on something else. I think she's realising that we didn't all grow 2 heads after the vaccine for a start and since Trumps gone there's less public hatred.
Can't advise what you should do, but I couldn't have lived with my mum and wouldn't have blamed my dad for leaving (after 40 years of marriage).

This is so sad, OP. It's like losing a loved one to mental illness.

The crypto isn't your problem until he invests a house deposit or retirement funds into it. As to it being "locked up" for 18 months, did he have it invested in one of the crypto exchanges that went bankrupt and think he'll get his money back?

LTB and don't look back.
It would be a million times better to have a baby as a single mum, using a sperm donor, than with this man.
You will be stuck with him forever if you have his child, and worse still, you will inflict him as a father on your child.
Do. Not. Do it.

I've not read the thread, but your DH isn't unusual in his views about the vaccines. Unfortunately, by shutting down debate and refusing to accept there could be any risk/cost assessment or serious side effects, a lot of people got very angry and suspicious.

I was a health care professional and was angry at the refusal to allow people to express their fears or address some obvious side effects. This has done a lot of damage to the whole, very beneficial, general vaccine programme.

I wouldn't throw away 15 years over this, but I would look at working out how you communicate and work through differences.

The more you post the more concerning his behaviours and beliefs sound.

Are you able to do something like go and stay somewhere away from him, ideally with a friend or close family member, for a couple of days, and tell them what you have told us? The things that specifically concern me are the trying to affect your choices around your own healthcare and the making you question yourself type behaviour. In a healthy relationship you shouldn't be left in a situation where you are questioning your own thinking all of the time.

I think part of the problem is the rise of the real nut jobs and bullshitters in politics and influence They've always been there but in international terms in recent years there has been a ton of them . The world has gone so bat shit in so many ways that it's hard to believe anything these days that doesn't have some kind of agenda behind it and hey- welcome then to an ideal cesspool for conspiracy theories to flow freely. Be it the absolute farce of oven ready Brexit deals where nothing apparently would change and everything would suddenly be cheap as chips , to Trump denying an election result and going along with rabble rousing, to Chinese hiding initial covid situation - it's totally screwed with some peoples perception of informed media and reality - and perfectly intelligent people in theory get caught up on trying to make sense in their head of the nonsensical.

However OP I am in camp leave , because he clearly is vulnerable towards latching onto Mumbo jumbo- and I add crypto into that too.

Oh not weapons too.
Please consider your future with this man.
And take care of yourself.

I agree with this.
You need to understand where you stand and what you both want.

You both will have to compromise at times but if your values are totally different it will be so stressful for you!

Hope you're ok OP this must be so upsetting when already ttc.

🙈🙈 no he hasn’t. He’s lost it I’m afraid! And he’s hoping it’ll rebound in 18 months so he won’t have to tell you!

Crypto is worth so much less than what it was this time last year. Some have done much worse than others and are literally worthless now, some aren’t quite so bad, maybe 50% drop (think bitcoin). But the whole market plunged!

You know he’s obviously a bit deranged! Maybe tell him you’re having very serious doubts and you want to see a professional together. If he refuses then explain you want to leave. If he won’t budge then he obviously doesn’t care and would be wise to rethink your current plans!

I’m sorry about your miscarriage btw, that must have been really difficult!

What does preps mean? Weapons? Oh do you mean like an end of the world type scenario?

He needs some sort of help this isn’t normal behaviour but he needs to want to change and you can’t make him.

Yes it becomes normal, you have become desensitised to the behaviour. Telling you you are the crazy one, he is gaslighting you. This is abusive behaviour. You really do have to leave, it sure isn’t going to get better.

I know it’s hard, I’ve been there but you need to run not walk away from this situation.

He can be intelligent and book smart, but anyone who can demonstrate this level of weakness of mind, and has already begun to limit your freedoms (to be vaccinated) with his absolute bunkum, is someone to be avoided. You have to leave.

It’s considerably worse than you’ve let on, isn’t it?

Get back on contraception, OP.

Oh jeez. I’ve just read more of this thread. He stopped you getting a vaccine when you were pregnant. That I can sort of understand. People were unsure about it. If I’d had a partner with strong views about it when I was a nervous pregnant woman then I might have allowed myself to be swayed I guess. But to suggest your flu vaccine caused a miscarriage is awful. And then you say he is stockpiling gold and weapons….??! This is very fucking weird behaviour. It is NOT normal. He may well be lovely, intelligent, have a good job, but that doesn’t mean he is a going to be a good long term partner or a good dad. I think you need to ask yourself some soul searching questions. I know I couldn’t bear to be on a week’s holiday with someone like this, let alone live as their partner and have them making decisions about my as yet unborn children! It’s madness.

It sounds like you're vaccinated, so he is thinking of having a child with someone who he thinks will be dead in a couple of years. And there's the fact that your vaccinated blood will flow through the baby in utero. The man is seriously hard of thinking, having a baby with him would be a mistake.