Parents refuse use of vaccinated blood in life-saving surgery on baby - New Zealand

[NadjaCravensworth]

The parents of the baby discussed their son’s health situation and their medical preferences in an interview with an anti-vaccination campaigner.
In the interview the parents say their baby has severe pulmonary valve stenosis, and that he needs surgery “almost immediately”, but that they are “extremely concerned with the blood [the doctors] are going to use”.
“We don’t want blood that is tainted by vaccination,” the father said. “That’s the end of the deal – we are fine with anything else these doctors want to do.”

So you would rather your baby died than had blood from someone who is vaccinated.

At what point does this not become child abuse / murder - this child could die due to the beliefs of the parents?

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/30/new-zealand-parents-refuse-use-of-vaccinated-blood-in-life-saving-surgery-on-baby

I am 100% sure that harvesting babies for medical resources is a door we want to keep firmly shut, locked, and maybe even bricked up.

Can you imagine the conspiracy theories about what the Blood of the Pure was being used for then?

Poor baby.

I've a "pureblood" friend who said she wouldn't accept blood from a vaccinated person. She includes flu and HPV in that as well.
She also doesn't donate blood because she doesn't agree with Big Pharma.
I wonder if many unvaccinated people do give blood regularly?

I've a "pureblood" friend who said she wouldn't accept blood from a vaccinated person. She includes flu and HPV in that as well.

How does she suppose she would find out ?

I guess she'd just "know".
Or if she actually needed blood, she'd just take it.
We can't have too deep a conversation about it as our views are very far apart.

Does she actually call herself pureblood? That's a bit disturbing.

I suppose Semmelweis just wanted to be different too.

I admit I had to Google him but I’m not sure why that’s relevant at all? The science behind the vaccine isn’t a mystery. We already know how and why they work. Are you saying the vaccine just doesn’t work? Or that science in the future will prove no vaccines work but hahaha they saved lives anyway? I’m not sure of your point.

@EarthlyNightshade how does your cerebrally challenged friend connect donating blood to big pharma? 🙄

Dear god the lack of scientific thinking with some posters here is terrifying 😩.

I think it's a lack of trust in medicine in general. She would be worried what would happen to her blood and what they might put into her while she was donating.
I have no idea if her views are normal anti vaxxer views, which is why I was wondering if anti vaxxers do donate blood generally.
And by anti vaxxer, I mean people distrustful of all vaccines, not people who just haven't had the covid vaccine for whatever reason.

@EarthlyNightshade - does your friend engage with medical professionals about anything or take any other medication?

In a weird twist my anti-vaxx relative is a hypochondriac and is constantly at the doctors requesting medication/treatment for their latest ailment they’ve diagnosed from Google and are furious when the GP refuses, but vaccines are the devils work.

Honestly, I don't know.
We have to stop talking about it pretty quickly if it comes up due to our different views.
I know she's a big fan of vitamins and natural medication, she wouldn't use HRT but happy to use a whole range of herbal medicines.

Her stance has shifted to this position since covid, she had babies in hospital with pain relief, etc.
I am not sure what she would do if her kids actually needed a blood transfusion (I assume she would allow it).

Ask the court to overrule the nutters.

Not necessarily. For example, child could be blood group o but parents could be a or b.

@EarthlyNightshade - Interesting thank you. I need to stop trying to look for logic in this I think.

If you were that worried about receiving blood from a person who has had the Covid vaccine due to a supposed increase with the chance of blood clots, then surely you would be more worried about the amount of women who must be blood doners while taking a contraceptive pill which is proven to increase the risk of blood clots and which is always in the system as it is taken daily, or does the follow through thinking not really work like this?

@Sunshinesky1981 I'm pretty certain that you're being very optimistic when you dignify the processes behind something like this as 'thinking.'

baby can have operation under guardianship now, common sense has prevailed

Excellent! Some people shouldn't be parents. Just a shame that they aren't seeking a wider guardianship/removal order.

Madness, it’s totally indefensible putting beliefs before life saving interventions. This is child abuse. I hope the parents are overruled.

So, to be clear.

You don't want something you don't need. But you'd probably change your mind if you did need it?! 🙄

My personnal choice is not to receive vaccinated blood and i think that is perfectly fine.

That's true, but is it rational? Did you base your decision on facts?

This!
Also those women on tranexamic acid for heavy periods.
People are just being silly.

@JusteanBiscuits I actually dont believe i would, i feel that strongly about it but i dont suppose we really know how we would react placed in that actual position. Hopefully i will never need to find out but im not sure why my opinion is any less valid than yours just because you dont agree with it.