Parents refuse use of vaccinated blood in life-saving surgery on baby - New Zealand

[NadjaCravensworth]

The parents of the baby discussed their son’s health situation and their medical preferences in an interview with an anti-vaccination campaigner.
In the interview the parents say their baby has severe pulmonary valve stenosis, and that he needs surgery “almost immediately”, but that they are “extremely concerned with the blood [the doctors] are going to use”.
“We don’t want blood that is tainted by vaccination,” the father said. “That’s the end of the deal – we are fine with anything else these doctors want to do.”

So you would rather your baby died than had blood from someone who is vaccinated.

At what point does this not become child abuse / murder - this child could die due to the beliefs of the parents?

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/30/new-zealand-parents-refuse-use-of-vaccinated-blood-in-life-saving-surgery-on-baby

I agree, I bet there are many that would donate.

Besides, it hasn't taken a day. We already know that. The report says papers were filed on Monday and there was a meeting on Wednesday to set a date for an urgent hearing..

Ah yes, here come all the Facebook scientists and armchair public health experts spreading a load of misleading, false information regarding vaccinations.

I hope this child gets the healthcare and treatment he needs in the appropriate timeframe and that his parents’ misguided beliefs do not endanger his life or cause him long term harm.

Maybe that's not how it works, though. I imagine there are procedures in place for giving blood products, designed to avoid the recipient from getting anything that is actually dangerous (which doesn't include covid vaccines) meaning that hospital staff probably aren't allowed to stick a needle in some random person off the street who offers to donate and then put that blood into a child.

Or perhaps it takes time to process.

I don't know if it is different for direct relatives e.g. parents but presumably there IS something preventing this, if, like everyone keeps suggesting, it is such an obvious solution, then it won't be being ignored for the sake of a newspaper headline.

Some unvaccinated have weird ideas re: medicine, most have no trust in The State / The Doctors / (unspecified) “Them”. Those people are unlikely to step up to donate enough type-matched blood for a child to be operated on safely.

@Sockmate123 stop spreading lies

Exactly! For example parents could be A and B and the child could be O. While group O can be given to anyone, group A, B or AB cannot be given to group O receipient.

What are you talking about? Do you have any idea how the immune system works?

Anti-vaxxers aren't fit to be parents.

Where is your evidence from?

(you know facebook doesnt count)

I don't agree with this viewpoint at all, but they JW genuinely believe their child will be denied to the kingdom of heaven if they receive blood/organs. According to their faith it's better to let "God" choose if the child survives.

Pillars of faith can't be underestimated even if they aren't agreed with.

This is where the state should step in and rule if the faith has a legitimate stance or if the child should be saved (I'd hope the latter).

From a NZ news source on the complications of using blood from unvaccinated people:

"Even if we could do that, then what if people think there is a problem and that's why we did it, so a hundred people ask us to do that and then 200 people, and we did it for no logical reason. We would be sort of opening up a problem that wasn't a problem," Prof Turner said.

"Even if it was possible, from which I understand from our health services it's not that simple, we'd be creating a bigger problem."

www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/11/expert-explains-why-sick-baby-can-t-just-be-given-blood-from-unvaccinated-people.html

It won't be the last time something like this happens though, I imagine it'll become a common request in the future.

Jehovah's Witnesses oppose blood transfusion in general, not merely the use of "vaccinated blood."

I don't think it will be a common request. Doubtless thousands of babies have been saved by donated blood since the vaccine and accepted gratefully by parents who couldn't give a damn about vaccine status. This is the first I've read of its kind.

That's not how vaccinations work. That's not how ANY of this works.

I wonder if they would apply the same conditions if their own life hung in the balance? Obviously they would say they would but I wonder if that would pan out when facing death?

It' not 'renowned'. It occurs in approximately 2 cases per million - therefore classed as a very, very rare event. Please stop spreading mis-information

I don't think that's fair, tbh. Most of us would save our children over ourselves - unvaccinated people aren't some alien unknowable other.

Utter bullshit

It's not remotely reasonable. Stop listening to anti science, conspiracy theory nonsense.

Utter bullshit was EXACTLY what I was going to say! 😂

Vaccines don't suddenly cause long term problems several years down the line, that's simply not how they work. The vaccine doesn't even stay in your system that long, it primes your immune system to recognise the designated threat and then it dissipates.

Side effects from vaccines occur very soon after its given, from within seconds for severe allergic reaction right up to a couple of weeks later as the immune system responds to it. While some rare reactions can have long term effects, the vaccination itself won't cause problems months or even years later.

As for blood clots and myocarditis, the risk of having these as side effects of covid are far higher than the risk of having them due to a vaccine. The vaccine lowers the risk of covid complications, including blood clots and myocarditis, and the risk of long covid.

In the UK this would get an emergency court order as the parents are blatantly not acting in the child's best interests.