Parents refuse use of vaccinated blood in life-saving surgery on baby - New Zealand

[NadjaCravensworth]

The parents of the baby discussed their son’s health situation and their medical preferences in an interview with an anti-vaccination campaigner.
In the interview the parents say their baby has severe pulmonary valve stenosis, and that he needs surgery “almost immediately”, but that they are “extremely concerned with the blood [the doctors] are going to use”.
“We don’t want blood that is tainted by vaccination,” the father said. “That’s the end of the deal – we are fine with anything else these doctors want to do.”

So you would rather your baby died than had blood from someone who is vaccinated.

At what point does this not become child abuse / murder - this child could die due to the beliefs of the parents?

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/30/new-zealand-parents-refuse-use-of-vaccinated-blood-in-life-saving-surgery-on-baby

Doesn't matter. JWs can put their own life at risk but they're not allowed to impose their batshit crazy views on children.

Is the source your own imagination? Or a website called "shit that did not happen"?

Really? Can you imagine the paperwork involved in that. Does anyone have time for that shit…. God I hope not.

The boy would be made a ward of the court.

Stupid parents.

I'm presuming you're taking the piss....

Any risk associated with a vaccine is limited to the person who has had the vaccine. The donated blood may have covid antibodies in which would be the same for someone who has had covid. It is a totally illogical view point and it is scary the anti-vax movement has hoodwinked people so much that they would put their own child's life at risk.

A bank of vaccinated blood had to be dumped. I can't reveal the source of this info.

You can't reveal the source because it's complete bullshit. Two years down the line and this kind of crap is still being spouted. Unbelievable.

Thank you. Honestly the amount of ignorant, scaremongering rumour that masquerades as knowledge on the internet is like being in a society that believes in witches, fairies and magic.

Of course you can't reveal your source. Of course...

You can't reveal the source but you expect us to believe it. Bollocks. You can't reveal the source because you just made it up.

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I should point out that I'm pro vax - but I'm just not on board with demonising parents when more simple answers are available. Most parents would move mountains to save their children.

It's worthwhile painting out that NZ played the hokey-cokey with the astrazenica vaccine casting doubt about its safety and rejecting it initially in favour of Pfizer vaccine. If people have suspicions and doubts about vaccines then I'd suggest poor state messaging didn't help the matter.

Twitter, at a guess.

I doubt you'd get this through the courts in a day given the novelty of the situation.

If necessary then yes, in the UK at least, court orders can be gained within hours. Hospital trust have legal teams available 24/7 who know how to get these things expedited.

It's worthwhile painting out that NZ played the hokey-cokey with the astrazenica vaccine casting doubt about its safety and rejecting it initially in favour of Pfizer vaccine.

But happily unloaded it onto Pacific Islanders.

This is not what is happening, it is clear from the article linked that it has already taken longer than a day.

😂 of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most!

When I was a baby (many years ago!) I had serious jaundice. My mum was a JW at the time - not now - and refused a blood transfusion for me. Obviously I pulled through but I'm not sure what to make of this now! I mean besides that, she's a great mum.

Who’s the source Billy Bullshiter?

Clearly the parents are very guliable people so the dr just needs to tell them the blood is from an unvaccinated person and they will believe it

It's weird to me that we will let our baby die now rather than give it tainted (I don't personally believe this) blood and it die in future.

And perhaps more to the point, the risk of heart failure and death of leaving severe pulmonary valve stenosis untreated because they are congenitally thick as mince is considerably higher than any rates of actual evidenced vaccine damage in respect of all vaccines.

I have no issue with people competing for a Darwin Award on their own, but to try for one on behalf of their defenceless (and extremely sick) newborn? Cunts, the lot of them.

I would also be reluctant to accept Covid vaccinated blood for my children until much further in the future.

BUT, if my child required blood in an emergency, I doubt the vaccination status of the donor would be at the forefront of my mind. However, if I had time to think before a scheduled operation, I would ask too.

I am a blood donor. Nobody asks me if i'm vaxxed when I donate - although I suppose they could cross reference my donation with the rest of my NHS records.

People who need donor blood can't specify that they don't want blood from a woman, or a black/asian donor, or a gay man, or someone born in November, or whatever other criteria they want to use.

Oh please do ask, the staff could use a laugh.

I've been called in to donate blood ahead of my usual scheduled appointment when it's been needed, I'm sure they will have already called around regular donors with the right blood group already.

However, I suspect most regular bloods donors will be vaccinated, just my assumption from the people I know who donate.They'd have to give permission for their medical records to be verified, although their identity could be kept confidential. Not impossible I'd have thought. Bearing in mind it could take a few days from the person donating to their blood being ready for use and this surgery sounds urgent.