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Shamima Begum's mother

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AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:48

I read an article about Shamima Begum's mother in the Daily Mail. I am very much in the camp that Shamima Begum should come back to the UK and be trialed here as her crimes.

Anyway, the mother says how close she was with Shamima and how she misses her etc.

If I were Shamima Begum's mum and my daughter was not allowed into the UK, I would travel to the refugee camp to be with her. Or, I would take my daughter to Bangladesh just to be with her and not leave her on her own.

I don't understand why Shamima Begum's mum takes no action to support her daughter!

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JusteanBiscuits · 24/11/2022 14:49

Very easy for you to say.

luxxlisbon · 24/11/2022 14:51

Doesn’t she have other children? Very easy to say you would go and live in a refugee camp but the reality and logistics are different. Would you force your other older children to come? Would you leave them behind? How is that why different from being away from 1 child now?

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/11/2022 14:51

Have you ever travelled in places even vaguely like these? I have. It's not easy.

She can probably help more from the UK.

KitchiHuritAngeni · 24/11/2022 14:52

Let's not judge someone by the standard we think we would set if we lived their reality. None of us know what we would actually do.

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:52

Surely Shamima Begum needs some support! If all my other children were safe in the UK, I would probably want to support that one child who really needs it. Not sure how old the other children are to be honest - I assumed they were grown up.

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Kanaloa · 24/11/2022 14:52

Easy to say what you’d do if you were Shamima Begum’s mum but you aren’t, are you? You’re a totally different person. Maybe you would go and maybe you wouldn’t.

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:53

@MrsTerryPratchett I have not been in a refugee camp. But I cannot bear the thought of one of my child being in one, while I am comfortable in the UK.

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/11/2022 14:53

She doesn’t have any other ‘ children’ , they are all adults now.

I think this just another attempt to pluck the heartstrings of the unsuspecting British public and whip up some support for letting this self confessed murdering terrorist back into Britain.

Januarcelebration · 24/11/2022 14:54

Well for me it would be picking between my oldest and my youngest who is still a child.

I would also assume they have been told travelling to her would be a really bad idea and they should stay put.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 24/11/2022 14:54

If I was her mum I’d go NC actually.

socialmedia23 · 24/11/2022 14:54

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:53

@MrsTerryPratchett I have not been in a refugee camp. But I cannot bear the thought of one of my child being in one, while I am comfortable in the UK.

clue is in the name 'refugee camp'. It is for refugees, not family members of refugees who would like to live there! And i am sure there is no nearby town where she can set up house. Also what about visas.

QueenOfThorns · 24/11/2022 14:56

Her lawyer has said that she’d likely be hanged if she went to Bangladesh, so maybe that wouldn’t be a great plan from her perspective? (Of course, this may not be true, it’s just part of their case!)

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:56

I think it's a horrible place to be for a mum. But I can't imagine being away from my 15 year old and then having the option to travel to see her and not do it. Journalists and lawyers are travelling there.

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Mercurial123 · 24/11/2022 14:56

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:52

Surely Shamima Begum needs some support! If all my other children were safe in the UK, I would probably want to support that one child who really needs it. Not sure how old the other children are to be honest - I assumed they were grown up.

You're naive. You know you will never have to make the decision but decide what other people should do by reading the Daily Mail?!

JusteanBiscuits · 24/11/2022 14:57

the chances are high that if she packed up and went, she would never be able to return to this country. Would you forsake your entire life and family?

2bazookas · 24/11/2022 14:58

I read an article about Shamima Begum's mother in the Daily Mail.

Did you swallow every word, hook line and sinker and believe it?

heldinadream · 24/11/2022 14:58

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:56

I think it's a horrible place to be for a mum. But I can't imagine being away from my 15 year old and then having the option to travel to see her and not do it. Journalists and lawyers are travelling there.

Jesus OP for a start off she's not fifteen any more she's 23! And so many other points, but just try starting there. You sound completely clueless.

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 24/11/2022 14:58

Why her mum? Not her dad? Why should her mum be guilted into dropping her whole life to stand by someone who stands accused of very serious things, but her dad can keep his career, his clean water, his central heating, his rights and contact with the rest of his support network?

Why is it always mums who are expected to pick up the pieces?

Brefugee · 24/11/2022 14:59

I think it's a horrible place to be for a mum. But I can't imagine being away from my 15 year old and then having the option to travel to see her and not do it. Journalists and lawyers are travelling there

yeah. Right. She would be in danger of never being allowed back in the UK for starters. It is not safe (her daughter isn't 15 now either). So stop shitting on someone who is in a completely dreadful situation because you have some romantic notion of what you would do.

SirMingeALot · 24/11/2022 15:00

Are you quite sure people can just turn up?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 24/11/2022 15:01

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/11/2022 14:53

She doesn’t have any other ‘ children’ , they are all adults now.

I think this just another attempt to pluck the heartstrings of the unsuspecting British public and whip up some support for letting this self confessed murdering terrorist back into Britain.

Exactly. Emotional manipulation - 'I just want my baby home.' I bet a lot of Yazidi mothers would say the same.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/11/2022 15:01

What's the most dangerous and scary place you've ever been OP? Because I suspect you are quick to say what you WOULD do without ever having DONE it.

notacooldad · 24/11/2022 15:03

I don't understand why Shamima Begum's mum takes no action to support her daughter!
If you are not part if the family you will have no idea what excatly is going on, the legal implications if she tried to get near her, if her life would be in danger etc.
Naive post at best.

sweatyannie · 24/11/2022 15:03

AddingUp · 24/11/2022 14:56

I think it's a horrible place to be for a mum. But I can't imagine being away from my 15 year old and then having the option to travel to see her and not do it. Journalists and lawyers are travelling there.

Are you up to speed with what actually happened WHEN SHE WAS 15 ?

She is now an adult.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 24/11/2022 15:07

If she goes to Bangladesh they’d hang her. Her father has already washed his hands of her. So she won’t be going there. She wants to come back to soft touch Britain as she was ‘trafficked’ —my arse—