Shamima Begum's mother

[AddingUp]

I read an article about Shamima Begum's mother in the Daily Mail. I am very much in the camp that Shamima Begum should come back to the UK and be trialed here as her crimes.

Anyway, the mother says how close she was with Shamima and how she misses her etc.

If I were Shamima Begum's mum and my daughter was not allowed into the UK, I would travel to the refugee camp to be with her. Or, I would take my daughter to Bangladesh just to be with her and not leave her on her own.

I don't understand why Shamima Begum's mum takes no action to support her daughter!

Because she has a life and other children here. What she did was leave her family behind chose to be a child bride and live in a camp that tortures people.

There are some girls forced into marriage that wasn't the case with her. I don't think she should come back. There will always be people taking the law into they're own hands. They see someone completely innocent person who looks like her. Would that be fair?

I wouldn't take any notice of anything the DM prints. They are as rascist as they come.

Absolutely no sympathy at all, for Begum or her Mother.
She made her bed, and she, quite rightly, is now having to lay in it.

I would reserve my sympathy for victims of terrorism, and our soldiers killed in the name of trying to restore peace.

Yes

@AddingUp you're really not the sharpest tool in the shed are you.

Go no contact with my radicalised and groomed on line, daughter who was only 15 when she was married off to an adult male, and who has lost three children in infancy? No, not me.

You read in the Daily Mail. Oh well then you're a real expert aren't you? Someone who really carefully checks that what they read is from a credible source?
I'm being sarcastic by the way!

@Quveas I asked a civil question. There was no need for the snark in your reply and the sneering at people who read a paper you happen to hold in disdain.

I dont think it’s particularly easy (or advised by the foreign office) to travel to Syria and do we even know if SB can legally enter Bangladesh? I dont think it’s as easy as you think it might be.

For what it’s worth, SB should be allowed back to the UK, if she has committed crimes or is a UK terror threat then she should be delt with in this country. She should not be made to live by the decisions she made at aged 15.

I don't think that's how REFUGEE camps work.
Her mum is not a refugee!

Regardless of what shes done, she needs to be brought back to face justice here.

I still dont understand by what law she has lost her citizenship.

Its illegal to remove it.

My sympathy lies with the Yazidis
Not Shamima Begum.

There are some incredibly hard hearted posters on here. You love your children unconditionally, and if that were my DD alone in Syria I would want to help her. SB has committed no crimes and was a fifteen year old child when she left the U.K. The lack of empathy is quite staggering.

And yes, I also have huge empathy for the victims of terrorism.

I would, wouldn't think twice about it. I have no empathy whatsoever

Exactly!

Absolutely dont think she had any idea, these girls are sold these dreams of this amazing life replenishing their bloodlines and religion being warrior wives respected under the religion.

when the reality is being passed from one man to the next as they each die and other countless disgusting scenarios.

Let alone the only reason they were actually able to get to syria (rather than being stopped by security services who knew what was going on) is because is was organised by an undercover Canadian operative.

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OP, it’s probably because you are a better mum than most mums.

You wouldn’t think twice about going NC with your child?

I pity your children, if you have any.

SB has committed no crimes

You know that for sure?

I would, wouldn't think twice about it. I have no empathy whatsoever

Good for you

She's guilty of accessory to murder
Treason

Please provide the date of convictions and which court please? To be guilty of something you actually have to have been convicted by someone other than the Daily Mail, and it's generally accepted that it needs to be a court of law.

Interesting that at 15 everyone knows right from wrong. Teenagers being renowned for sound judgement and sensible decision making.

But this thread was never going to go any other way. Interesting that she's been convicted of nothing, but on another thread a woman who committed murder and was convicted of that murder is being hailed as a hero because, apparently, a whole bunch of people who know right from wrong think murder is right is you think you have a good reason.

She might miss the relationship she had but that doesn't mean she wants a relationship now.

It is possible to travel to Syria and Damascus is well and truly open to tourism. You can also visit other towns and cities but you need an official guide with you. People enter through Beirut and I think it’s about a 3-4 hour drive. Some of my family were there recently for the weekend. There is a visa process to go though and I think that’s where Shamima’s mum would have a problem. I doubt very much she’d be issued one.

You can love your child without having to condone their actions or wanting them in your life. For example, if my daughter became a serial killer, I wouldn't want anything to do with her but I would still love her as she was the daughter I gave birth to. Likewise, if she did what SB did (and depending on the extent to which she was involved) I wouldn't want to be involved with her.