It’s happening again! IACGMOOH <<Title edited by MNHQ to remove spoilers>>

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So last year … after Naughty Boy got kicked out there was controversy at the all white camp! Charlene, Scarlett out and Baba in the bottom two too!! Racism!

Most likely.

They need to change to vote out rather than vote for favourite. Agree this is pants

I just think 2 might be the start of a pattern but it's not enough to prove discrimination. Let's see how it plays out. I really hope it isn't racism and I don't think it is - but I obviously don't know how other people think @Freddieonahill

I think they do it this way to keep the biggest characters in. I'm sure they change to vote out when it gets closer to the final but I might be wrong.

@Freddieonahill already addressed this with you. I find Sue a pain in the arse, stated previously, but not boring. I didn’t find Scarlett a pain in the arse but TO ME she came across as smug and not particularly entertaining. It is ok to observe different qualities in different people. Because they are individuals. Would I have to think the same thing about both in order not to appear racist to you? Because if that’s your reasoning it’s mental.
I haven’t previously stated what I think about MH (who should be at work) or BG who is a whinging diva, but who at least makes me laugh. This is nothing to do with the fact they are white. It’s my opinion of how they have behaved and come across. Not everything is about skin colour and to try to shoehorn it into every situation I would suggest demeans the actual topic.

In your original comment you gave reasons for not liking Scarlett which could easily be applied (and even more strongly) towards some other contestants. That was the basis of my response (and I apologise for mentioning racism), as at the time it felt like you were singling Scarlett out

I think this used to be the case. Results in the big characters being voted out earlier and I suspect ratings are better if they keep the big guns in longer?

It was very noticeable that the 3 black contestants were the first to be votes out. Not based on previous history or politics, my final 3 favourites Jill, Mike and Matt.

@Freddieonahill fair enough, but that assumes that the traits you see in contestants are the traits we all should observe. That’s not reasonable. And the original discussion was about Scarlett’s eviction hence she was the only one I commented on?

Given that only two people have actually been voted out, how is your statement correct?

It's voting for the favourite so doubt it's racism.

Scarlette was good at tasks but probably a bit boring for the viewer, I always think she tries too hard. I tried watching Worst House on the Street and found her and her brother too much.

Charlene was just too much of a pain in the arse, especially when she cried IACGMOOH.

I'm black if that makes a difference as to how you see my point of view!

It's not racism, it's only about levels of entertainment

It's not that deep.

**BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · Today 10:58

Alexandernevermind · Today 10:57

It was very noticeable that the 3 black contestants were the first to be votes out. Not based on previous history or politics, my final 3 favourites Jill, Mike and Matt.

Given that only two people have actually been voted out, how is your statement correct?**

Because Babatunde was the "it might be you", which assumably means second lowest vote?

It is about who is the most well known and who has the most supporters. I can't stand Tindall for example but guess he has a massive rugby fan following so can understand he'll get lots of votes.

Had anyone even heard of Charlene and Scarlette?

Wikipedia Series 1 says that they were voted to be saved and that it was bottom 2 (fewest votes).

Shown here - hope it's not too small to read.

I'm surprised scarlett went, she was great

I liked her very much, as I do Baba but I didn't vote for either of them. I used all 5 on the one person I'd like to win, so there were 7 others I didn't vote for either. BUT, as I've now seen that Baba appears to be at risk, I will use some of today's allocation on him.
No racism here, sorry to disappoint.

Interestingly, no one has mentioned racism on any of the media coverage I've seen/heard. It's only here on Mumsnet.

Er

Is that the Mail? I avoid clicking on their pages.

I bet it reads like the OP word for word

@girlmom21 what interaction are you expecting from me? I do have a day job. The bottom line is it’s unconscious bias (best case scenario) and over racism as worst case scenario. However you dress it up not to be, it’s racism.

*overt

I don't believe it is racism at all, Scarlet is probably the least known person in there. I have seen Charlene onelce or twice on Loose Women but didn't really know who she was, Baba I had not heard of.

If I had my choice BG would have gone after Charlene, or Sue, I find all 3 of them nasty bullies. Baba I really like but is not my favourite so he wouldn't get my vote, he is probably a but dull to win overall and fairly unknown. I think it's odd to try and find racism when there is none there.