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To ban my bullying sister from seeing my kids?

341 replies

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:34

I’ve got 2 teenagers just a year apart, a DS15 with ASD and DD14 with anxiety and depression. Both are school refusers, I am trying my best and working with relevant authorities. DD often spends all day in bed (DS wakes up but will play video games) and I have to WFH but I make sure they come out at least once a day. As soon as I finish work at 2pm (I start early) both DC will come on a long dog walk at a country park and we’ll go to a cafe for cake/coffee afterwards.

My sister has a holier than thou attitude and is always giving me shit about my kids. Her adult DD and DS are ‘perfect’, both went to top RG uni’s, never had any kind of issue and now both live abroad with great jobs and she is constantly comparing them to my DC.

On Friday, I had to call in sick due to a cold. Around 1pm whilst feeling like shit, with DC still in bed, I get a text from Dsis announcing she was 2 minutes away. She does this often, I was fuming as house was a tip. When she arrived I told her I wasn’t well, and she just sort of pushed passed me and said “Oh well I’ll make you a cup of tea!!!!!”. She set off my 2 Alsatians who were barking for England and I had to settle them.

Then, as expected, the arsey comments about my kids started. “Little madam is in bed I take it? My daughter was always up by 6 on a weekend for her part-time job!” “What’s he doing? For goodness sake, you need to get him a proper hobby. He’ll wither away, no wonder he’s skin and bones!”. Her DH has ‘aspergers’ (yes I know it’s not called that but that’s the term she uses) and she thinks she’s the autism expert because of it, and implies my DS in non-verbal due to my failings. DS wears headphones when out for sensory reasons and once in a coffee shop she tried to bully him into removing them saying it was rude. Her husband who has a great job in finance is a completely different kettle of fish to my son FFS.

Her kids always had a very regimented routine, both with a long list of chores and several hobbies each, they never had ‘chill’ time. This is simply impossible for my kids due to their additional needs, they would not cope with me forcing things on them. As I say, we’ve come up with our own plans with authorities. DS is getting a grant so I can take him to places for enrichment (and is also slowing building a relationship with a key worker who will take him out) and DD may potentially be able to start a college course early at 15 at a small local animal care college, which is an environment I think she’ll thrive in as the rough, large local comp nearly killed her (horrific bullying). So it’s not like I’ve got nothing in place for them.

She just went on and on. Bla bla bla fucking bla. My kids cannot stand her as she always makes them uncomfortable, goes into DD’s room whilst she’s sleeping and lectures her. Dsis works part-time so is here a lot. Last Monday it was just before DD was going into the shower to get ready (and she was doing well that day, up at 12pm and expressing an interest in doing some baking), Dsis arrived, went up to her room and went on for half an hour about how DD should be up and ready before noon. DD was in tears afterwards and went back to bed for the rest of the day, it set her back.

Anyway, back to Friday, she gave me my drink then took herself upstairs. I could hear her. She tried to talk to non-verbal DS so I went up, and as usual, she looked shocked and appalled when he blanked her. She went into DD’s room with DD fast asleep started loudly clapping her hands (As usual. It’s also a huge sensory trigger for DS and in the midst of everything I heard him slamming his bedroom door repeatedly) shouting “Right you! Up now! You can’t live like this!!!! Your poor mum is ill and you need to pull your weight!!!! Come and make her some soup!!!”. In the end it was humiliating for DD as she had slept just in bottom underwear (her thermostat is broken and her room is boiling) so when Dsis pulled her duvet off she was exposed. DD then started crying and begging me to intervene. This is notable behaviour for DD as she usually doesn’t break down until Dsis leaves (Dsis is a huge anxiety trigger for her) but this time she started crying and having a panic attack in front of Dsis, DD finally ‘snapped’.

I lost my shit, this has been happening consistently for years and I was done. I grabbed her arm, pulled her into the hallway, told her she was a fucking disgrace for bullying my vulnerable kids and basically said “Fuck off and don’t ever talk to me again.” She continued lecturing me about my parenting so I threatened to call the police to get rid of her then she sheepishly left. I then sent her a message saying if she turns up again, she’s not being let in, and forceful attempts WILL result in me calling the police as I feel I have to safeguard my children from her. I also sent a text to my parents to inform them I am done with her. My parents are angry with me but I can’t have her around my kids anymore.

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Realistnotpessimist · 13/11/2022 10:39

She's not gone about it in the right way but she's absolutely right that the kids can't live like that.

Allsnotwell · 13/11/2022 10:40

I’m not sure what you want us to say. You clearly did the right thing for your children by removing her and I bet that felt good! Taking control.
But now ‘after’ you have mixed feelings!

She sounds like a busy body who has nothing better to do!

2pinkginsplease · 13/11/2022 10:43

Realistnotpessimist · 13/11/2022 10:39

She's not gone about it in the right way but she's absolutely right that the kids can't live like that.

Totally agree, sounds like she initially is trying to help but is tackling it all wrong.

your family definitely need more support .

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:49

The thing is is that we are working on support, we are just in a transitional phase. They come out on long walks every day. On weekends we will do something like go into the city etc. DS will never socialise like a NT child, he needs one-to-one enrichment with an adult. He’s getting a grant and has a keyworker. DD when she turns 15 in January can start at the animal care college, and they will also allow her to get a maths and English functional skills qualification there. It’s just a waiting game really until next year and Dsis is putting unnecessary pressure and upset on them in the meantime. She thinks my plan for DD is ridiculous and thinks she should be in a mainstream school. On Friday when DD cried after having her duvet pulled off Dsis rolled her eyes and said “She’d doing it for attention, she’s playing you like a fiddle.” She hasn’t got a clue.

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PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:49

My kids are scared of her.

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MultiTulip · 13/11/2022 10:50

It’s no coincidence that both of her kids have chosen to live abroad, far far away from her. It does sound like your family are struggling and I can see why a close relative would want to help. But she seems to have no idea of what sort of help would be useful to any of you. If she’s not prepared to make the effort to understand what might help, then she can’t be around the children.

I would talk this through with your parents though and get their honest opinion on what help your family needs. How long have your kids been out of education?

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:51

DD was in and out of school since the end of Year 7 but only point-blank refused this September. DS experienced major failures at the special needs school and mainstream is not an option.

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PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:53

She’s created an alternate version of my DD in her head, that she’s a lazy, obnoxious little madam with an attitude who plays me like a fiddle and it doesn’t reflect the reality at all.

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Dontaskdontget · 13/11/2022 10:54

Realistnotpessimist · 13/11/2022 10:39

She's not gone about it in the right way but she's absolutely right that the kids can't live like that.

This

Sweetmotherofallthatisholyabov · 13/11/2022 10:55

Are you struggling mentally? How did you let her upstairs? If you don't want her in DD's room whilst she sleeps why do you let her? Do you secretly want her help?

badbaduncle · 13/11/2022 10:55

She is an overbearing interfering nightmare that should definitely not be allowed in your home, but also, you need to push harder for support for your DC

mamabear715 · 13/11/2022 10:56

Who made her the f*cking expert, @PontinsBeach ?
My God.. your poor DC.. mine would have been exactly the same. I could scream when folk hint (& more) to me about them 'getting jobs'..

YOU know your DC. Others DON'T.
You seem to have good plans in place for them.
I hope your DSis apologises & realises she went too far, no loss if she doesn't. You DParents can presumably please themselves. WE look after our kids, @PontinsBeach Hugs.. x

ladycarlotta · 13/11/2022 10:57

Realistnotpessimist · 13/11/2022 10:39

She's not gone about it in the right way but she's absolutely right that the kids can't live like that.

But what's she doing to help? She's simply storming in, pointing out they aren't 'normal' and shaming/berating them over it.

If she was sincerely there to help she'd be paying attention to their actual situation and limitations and trying to work within them, as the children's mother and other services are doing. She'd understand that hers is an auxilliary, supportive role. Instead she thinks her role is to sweep in and single-handedly make them snap out of it. She needs to stay away.

redbigbananafeet · 13/11/2022 10:57

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mamabear715 · 13/11/2022 10:57

Sheesh.. OP's kids CAN live 'like that', there are plans in place & they are getting out for fresh air etc..
OP's sister got upstairs because OP wasn't WELL..

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:57

For comparison, my ex-husband’s (he’s useless and has a second family, doesn’t bother with us) sister is brilliant with them and they both like her. She takes an interest in what DS is doing in a
calm manner and she shows her drawings he’s done etc and some weekends she takes DD out. She actually helped me find this college that DD is going to.

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Theskyisfallingdown · 13/11/2022 10:58

That’s a shame that she’s been given the opportunity to bully your kids for years and storm their bedrooms.

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:58

@redbigbananafeet

Did you even read my post fully?

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Theskyisfallingdown · 13/11/2022 10:59

Did you want advice/have a question?

mamabear715 · 13/11/2022 10:59

No, @PontinsBeach
It seems rare that MN's DO properly read posts. :-(

HermioneWeasley · 13/11/2022 10:59

Ooof. She sounds like she loves you and her niece and nephew and wants to try and help, but she is going about it the wrong way. Is there a way you can talk to her calmly about what you’ve said here - that your son’s autism is very different to her husband’s Asperger’s? Equally, your daughter needs to be going to school and it sounds like you’re enabling her rather than giving her coping strategies and building her resilience.

Theskyisfallingdown · 13/11/2022 11:00

OP you’d get relevant replies if this is posted in the SEN topic.

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 11:01

My DD attemped suicide just before the Summer holidays because of not coping with mainstream school, I’m not risking making her go back when there’s an alternative option available where she can still socialise and get qualifications. She just can’t go until January but it’s all arranged.

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PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 11:02

I do try to explain things to her but she patronises and doesn’t take me seriously.

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redbigbananafeet · 13/11/2022 11:02

PontinsBeach · 13/11/2022 10:58

@redbigbananafeet

Did you even read my post fully?

Yes. Have you? In what ways are you preparing your children for a successful future? What do you think will change in less than 2 months that your daughter will suddenly be able to bound out of bed 6 hours earlier and attend a course? Being allowed to lay in bed all morning with no interaction or responsibilities or consequences is feeding her anxiety and will make January too difficult to handle.