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I want a sibling for our 4 year old but DH doesn’t want anymore

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Mangoandcoconut · 08/11/2022 17:12

As the title states.

I want our 4 year old DS to have a sibling but DH doesn’t want anymore.
Our son is suspected ASD/ADHD but definitely ND in some way.

We aren’t in a great financial position. But I think we could manage with one more. We have a spare bedroom too.

Anyway, he’s adamant he doesn’t want to do it again. The sleepless nights, the potty training, the colic, weaning and all the rest of it.

I don’t know where to go from here.
The thought of him not having a sibling makes me really sad…I have a brother who I was close to growing up and my DH has a brother and sister. So neither of us know what it’s like having no siblings.
I’m worried he’ll be lonely and have no one to play with as he grows up.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 10/11/2022 13:53

What's silly is the having a child for another child. That's a very foolish, risky reason to have a baby. It shouldn't even be a reason.

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2022 13:54

the pregnancy and labour were so difficult for him with our first
Fuck sake

Irim · 10/11/2022 13:55

@BadNomad Oh yes, I agree with you there.

MollieMarie · 10/11/2022 13:56

BadNomad · 10/11/2022 13:53

What's silly is the having a child for another child. That's a very foolish, risky reason to have a baby. It shouldn't even be a reason.

100%

No one is ever going to grow up and resent their parents or their childhood because they didn't have siblings. It's a total non issue.

wickerhearth · 10/11/2022 14:00

There's gonna be a 5 years difference between them, not sure they would actually want to play together anymore?

Choconut · 10/11/2022 15:07

Does your ds actually want a sibling? Mine with ASD is very glad that he's an only. What if your next also had ADHD and/or ASD? There's no certainty that they'll even like each other and I doubt they'd have much in common with the age gap especially if your second was a girl.

Irim · 10/11/2022 17:00

@Choconut The variation is so interesting. I'm still unpicking what is ASD, ADHD and personality in my DS. He thrives on being around others, adores my DP's kids, and would love a sibling. He's very outgoing and gregarious!

pastafairyan · 10/11/2022 17:56

How many children did you agree to have?

Not having a sibling is fine by the way. I don't have any and it has its upsides. My child is an only although we want another but that's more for us than for her.

LikeTearsInRain · 10/11/2022 18:23

mn29 · 08/11/2022 17:16

Did you talk about how many children you wanted before settling down into a serious relationship/marriage? If he’s always said only one then fair enough but if he’s changed his mind that seems unreasonable if you’ve always wanted more and that was agreed on.

No it’s perfectly fine to change your mind once you’ve gone through the actual act of having children.

OP can either focus on the good things about her family and move on from the idea or leave and find someone else who wants to give her more children.

RandomMusings7 · 10/11/2022 18:36

Kids don't need siblings and there is absolutely no guarantee that they'll be close. They might spent their whole childhood bickering.

Having one special needs kid means any subsequent kids are at an increased risk of having special needs too. Are you willing to risk it?

How severe are your son's additional needs? Can you accommodate a second kid in terms of time, attention, emotional availability? Will the sibling grow in the shadow of your son? Read up on the confessions of adults who grew up with severly disabled siblings - it's a very special kind of challenge and hardship.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 10/11/2022 18:41

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2022 09:46

As the parent of kids with additional needs yanbu. He's entitled to his view obviously but this would be a deal breaker for me.

I couldn't not dwell on them being alone in the future.

So you think that the younger child is going ‘to be there’ for their elder sibling? That’s a big assumption, and a pretty unfair one.

entropynow · 10/11/2022 18:42

Darbs76 · 08/11/2022 17:47

My nieces were like that, from the youngest was around 14 they’ve been so close - never expected it to happen but in adult life they are best friends. 6yr gap

How nice. Proves nothing beyond that example. I could cite dozens of opposite situations.

entropynow · 10/11/2022 18:44

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 10/11/2022 18:41

So you think that the younger child is going ‘to be there’ for their elder sibling? That’s a big assumption, and a pretty unfair one.

Yeah, bloody hell. We have been absolutely clear that No1 son is in no way to be responsible as an adult for his ND brother.
Which is just as well as he can't stand him ...

Darbs76 · 10/11/2022 18:46

entropynow · 10/11/2022 18:42

How nice. Proves nothing beyond that example. I could cite dozens of opposite situations.

It wasn’t intended to prove anything. I was responding to a comment another poster made about her kids not getting on when young. Of course we can all give loads of examples of siblings not getting on. On the whole most of the friends I have are close to their siblings.

neverbeenskiing · 10/11/2022 18:53

Sometimeswinning · 08/11/2022 19:44

We're comparing this situation to a woman being raped?? Not even close!!!

It is pretty close actually. "Stealthing" (where a man surreptitiously removes a condom during sexual intercourse) is considered rape in UK law because the other partner has consented to sex, but they did NOT consent to unprotected sex. If a woman tricks a man into having unprotected sex, when he believes he has consented to protected sex then why is that different? Because they're married? Because she wants a baby? Or because she's a woman?

entropynow · 10/11/2022 18:56

DarkKarmaIlama · 08/11/2022 18:47

@Sometimeswinning

You’re right, I’m not alone. Not the first, not the last.

Either that or I have at least two friends who are also rapey psychopaths for essentially pulling the same stunt 🤦‍♀️….. although what’s the saying? Birds of a feather flock together?

Presumably they do. You have all done a terrible thing and smugly patting yourselves on the back about it is utterly revolting. I don't believe in karma and it seems only further confirmation of its non-existence.

HerMajestysRoyalCoven · 10/11/2022 18:58

@neverbeenskiing Hear hear. The way this is being presented as some kind of feminist act is truly frightening.

RandomMusings7 · 10/11/2022 18:59

Willyoujustbequiet · 09/11/2022 09:46

As the parent of kids with additional needs yanbu. He's entitled to his view obviously but this would be a deal breaker for me.

I couldn't not dwell on them being alone in the future.

It's incredibly unfair and selfish to have another child only to burden them with caring for their disabled sibling once you're gone. No baby should be born with an agenda.

DarkKarmaIlama · 10/11/2022 19:03

@entropynow

Presumably this is the point where I should feel guilty and repent for my sins? 😂. Well I am afraid you’ll all be waiting a while for that 🤦‍♀️.

Sandinmyknickers · 10/11/2022 19:05

So if you didn't have your siblings you would be lonely? Have you never made friends or close bonds outside your immediate family? How strange
Your son will be fine as an only child

RandomMusings7 · 10/11/2022 19:06

@DarkKarmaIlama

Imagine if you had a teenager/adult son and their partner pulled the same stunt on them and baby trapped them when they absolutely didn't want to become a father.

Would you still condone it then? Congratulate her on her determination and initiative?

hugznotdrugz · 10/11/2022 19:10

@ddrkpl and what if he's never ready?

toomuchlaundry · 10/11/2022 19:56

Or @RandomMusings7 that was her son who pulled that stunt so he could have an extra child, would @DarkKarmaIlama be proud of his actions and congratulate him

Wheredoallthepensgo · 10/11/2022 20:39

JaneJeffer · 10/11/2022 13:54

the pregnancy and labour were so difficult for him with our first
Fuck sake

Yeah I rolled my eyes so hard at that one I saw Australia. "So hard" compared to what - growing an entire other human inside you and then heaving them out your foof or having major abdominal surgery to get them out? Confused

AnnoyedHumph · 11/11/2022 18:37

DarkKarmaIlama · 09/11/2022 09:47

@AnnoyedHumph

Sounds like it would have always been a disaster irrespective of gaps. My sister is 5 years older than me and we get on very well. Other sibling is 3 years older but we have less in common. Sounds like a personality clash and nothing much to do with a gap.

Maybe you were just very mature for your age and your sister was very immature. Otherwise 5 years is a massive developmental gap between children.

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