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To be upset MIL didn't invite me

219 replies

Dollydea · 08/11/2022 02:31

We're travelling back to our home town at Xmas for the first time since before covid, DH got a text from MIL today to say she'd booked pantomime tickets for him, SIL, BIL & the kids whilst we're back, she said they'll all go for a bite to eat afterwards and can exchange gifts then.

This is the first time I've ever known her to do anything like that with any of her kids, DH isn't close to his family at all, they've never fallen out but they're just not the sort of family who've remained close, we send birthday cards and also presents for the kids (not always reciprocated though) and DH messages or calls them occasionally to check in.
I'm in contact with SIL over messenger we're not "close" either but again, never had any arguments or bad feelings (not on my part at least)

DH wanted to message back and ask why I'm not invited but I told him to leave it, SIL & BIL are both divorced so my thinking is that maybe she just wanted it to be her kids and the grandkids?
Im not the sort of person who likes any confrontation or arguments so I'd rather not have him bring it up and potentially cause a rift where there isn't one, but I can't help but feel hurt. We've been together since teenagers and married for over 15 years.

I can't sleep for trying to think of something I might've said or done in the past to offend them but I genuinely can't think of anything.

Am I over thinking it?

OP posts:
pewtypie · 08/11/2022 16:14

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 15:25

How often do you fly to see MIL? I think when someone moves from the country where there family is living the onus is on the mover to visit home more often than the reverse. After all your asking them to spend money to comes and see you but it was your choice to move away, they didn’t move to a different country from you then get pissy when you didn’t travel overseas to see them.

OP hasn’t asked them to visit them abroad. She has made it clear they are welcome IF they want to visit.

Do you see the distinction?

YukoandHiro · 08/11/2022 16:16

I think because of the divorce she thought just children and grandchildren would be nice.
Free afternoon off! I'd be delighted, not moaning. I'm sure it was supposed to be inclusive of her kids, not exclusive of you

Dollydea · 08/11/2022 16:19

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 15:25

How often do you fly to see MIL? I think when someone moves from the country where there family is living the onus is on the mover to visit home more often than the reverse. After all your asking them to spend money to comes and see you but it was your choice to move away, they didn’t move to a different country from you then get pissy when you didn’t travel overseas to see them.

We very rarely travel back to the U.K.
This will be the first time I've been back since 2019. With school holidays and DH work schedule on top of covid rules etc then we've just not really had the opportunity to do so very often.

To be fair I'm not getting pissy that they don't visit, I'm not really all that bothered if truth be told. They didn't visit when we lived in the U.K., it was always us going to them, so I wasn't expecting that to change when we moved.

I could understand them being annoyed had we visited the U.K. and chose not to see them but we haven't.

I'm more annoyed that it's me who's getting slated whilst DH seems to be totally blameless in their eyes.

OP posts:
Dollydea · 08/11/2022 16:25

LadyApplejack · 08/11/2022 16:06

I was playing devils and assuming it was just a mother wanting to take her own grown-up children and the DCs for some quality time, and think nothing personal of it and enjoy the alone time!

From your update it sounds more deliberate but I'd still send DH and the kids, embrace the chill and let her be the baddie. You'll always have it "in the bank" for next time.

Yeah I've told DH to just go, he doesn't want to and neither does teenage DD, I'm not sure a panto is exactly what she had in mind for her short trip back 😂
I've told him not even mention it to them, don't wanna give them the satisfaction to be honest.

I'm tempted to drop DH and the kids off just so I can give MIL & SIL a cheery wave and smile.

Now I know what it's about I'm more bemused than upset.

OP posts:
Bookworm20 · 08/11/2022 16:26

Well your DH needs to speak to his mother and pretend he has misunderstood and say something along the lines, of thats great, the kids will love it and Dollydea is really looking forward to it, she hasn't been to a panto in years and really loves them. Then wait for her to squirm and explain to him you were not invited and then he can ask why not.

Perhaps her can then tell her he won't be going either, but the dc can go (so they don't miss out) and you 2 go out and have a nice childfree meal instead while MIL is babysitting them at the panto

skyeisthelimit · 08/11/2022 16:59

so if teenage DD doesn't want to go there will be a spare ticket that somebody else could use?......

>insert evil grin emoji

HowzAboutIt · 08/11/2022 19:16

MiddleParking · 08/11/2022 08:59

Is that how you conduct your own life? Deciding what’s best for people and booking things for selected individuals on that basis without speaking to them about it first? Plus presumably the MIL doesn’t think the panto is unfunny or she wouldn’t want any of them to go. We’ve never had any issues getting home from our annual panto trip, which we love and to which all family members, married in or born to us, are invited Hmm

Lucky them, having the invite from Lady Bountiful bestowed on them

🙄

lifeinthehills · 08/11/2022 20:56

ZaSar · 08/11/2022 15:25

How often do you fly to see MIL? I think when someone moves from the country where there family is living the onus is on the mover to visit home more often than the reverse. After all your asking them to spend money to comes and see you but it was your choice to move away, they didn’t move to a different country from you then get pissy when you didn’t travel overseas to see them.

Can't agree. I can't afford to travel to see my parents all the time, and why does their choice of location place obligation on me? My parents located away from their families and guess how often they took us to visit them? Zero times. Now that I've located away myself, I feel no obligation over and above what I can afford and choose. That's what the example they set.

kateandme · 09/11/2022 04:04

mention it with a smile. “ thank you so much for thinking of me, and how I’d need this down time to relax whilst you take the kids off us.I honestly can’t wait.no one has been that sweet to me. ever!”…

Doingmybest12 · 09/11/2022 06:13

Dollydea · 08/11/2022 13:56

So DH spoke to BIL this morning, apparently his mum and sister are annoyed with "us" (although obviously it's just me) this year by having my parents and sister visit us twice, yet they haven't been to see us in the 4 years we've lived here.

DH is actually really annoyed, every time I message his sister and she mentions visiting then I've always made it clear they're more than welcome.
My family make the initiative to book and pay for their own flights, pay half towards the villa we rent (as our house is too small to fit us all) DH has said MIL doesn't even own a passport!

His sister visited a country near to us for her holiday this year and did message DH to see if we'd want to jump on a flight and meet up there, but he was working and it fell on one of the weeks that my parents were here so I didn't want to hop on a flight and abandon them after they'd travelled here specifically to see us.

DH is gonna ring MIL tonight but I'm passed caring now that I've found out the reason, makes me laugh because when we lived in the U.K. they never visited us there either!

This is the first year I've known her that she's ever booked or planned anything special at Xmas or any other time, seems like she's done it purely out of spite now.

Ridiculous, how pathetic. I would find it hard to be polite in their company TBH.

Puddywoodycat · 09/11/2022 07:35

If DH and teenage DD didn't want to go why force them?

It this context it's incredibly rude to leave you out.

What will you do whilst they are there?
I'm assuming you have your own family to visit or a hotel to stay in so you at least won't be sat in their house alone whilst rhey enjoy theirs day out?

diddl · 09/11/2022 08:41

Yeah I've told DH to just go, he doesn't want to and neither does teenage DD, I'm not sure a panto is exactly what she had in mind for her short trip back

I wouldn't tell either of them to go if they don't want to.

It's very rude to book things without checking if they are free.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/11/2022 13:25

So due to your update you are def not invited

sue to not seeing them.

madness

dh needs to have your back and say we are coming to U.K. to see people together

not going to spend a day leaving you alone with kids and him and relatives all go out

SummerWinterSummerWinter · 09/11/2022 13:28

I disagree with most posters tbh.

Maybe she's trying to do something nice for the divorced SIL and BIL, just the three siblings/mum 'for old times sake' family type thing? Particularly if Christmas is a painful time of year for the divorced SIL and BIL (is there a FIL or has he passed away?)

The 'gift exchange' - it won't be your gifts to your kids or vice versa? It will be mostly gifts that don't affect you - your DH's siblings? Granny to kids? You'll still have your gift exchange with you, DH, kids. It's not like it's christmas day.

...but if you're really sad about it then say something.

SummerWinterSummerWinter · 09/11/2022 13:29

Ah - just read your update, sorry - I didn't realise you were abroad. In that case YANBU.

Floomobal · 09/11/2022 13:31

RainyDaysareCarp · 08/11/2022 03:33

The "funny" thing is that the MIL is told to suck it up with the DIL yet here the MIL is not allowed to have her own plans but the DIL isn't told to suck it up. Have you read both threads?

You genuinely can’t see that there’s a difference between

DECIDING that someone is coming, rather than INVITING them, AND excluding someone else.

INVITING 2 people to something and understanding if they choose not to attend?

Thats the difference between this thread and the MIL Christmas thread that you’re referring to. If you genuinely can’t see the difference, there’s no helping you

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 09/11/2022 13:33

Give dd's ticket to one of the dc's friends. The loudest one!

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/11/2022 13:33

rudebanana · 08/11/2022 14:03

Instead of having a discussion like adults they decide to be petty and deliberately exclude you. Leave them to it and enjoy some alone time!

My 'in-laws' have a tendency to communicate like this. Always the 'grand gesture'; always childish passive aggressive swipes, never the courage to actually sit down and discuss whatever it is that's bothering them in a direct, adult-like manner. That said, a comment along the lines of 'it's just you; you're different from us and to us different equals bad' doesn't come across too well, and both they and I know that's the reason. (I've tried direct communication, and the result was almost comical).

I'm glad you found out her real motives, OP; shows how it's impossible to take people like this seriously and you can go off and enjoy yourself whilst they make their point. In my case, I just took a large stride backwards and disengaged. I'm polite and cordial, and that's about it.

Life's too short for idiotic behaviour like this.

1HappyTraveller · 09/11/2022 13:37

YANBU

Could it be a mistake in the text message?

If not then you are being left out. It’s selfish and petty. You should be included.

Your DH is right to raise it with her. Nip this behaviour in the bud now or she’ll think she can do it all of the time.

BIL & SIL is not your concern here. So what if they’re divorced.

On the flip side you could use it to your advantage if you would like some “me” time. But honestly it would get my back up too.

theremustonlybeone · 09/11/2022 13:52

Well I think your MIL behaviour is a disgrace. To purposefully exclude you from the panto and meal when you and your DH and Kids are visiting for the first time in 4 yrs. What does she expect you to do? hang out in the hotel?

Its nasty and I wouldn't be going if my mum tried to exclude my DH. Sick of bloody MIL always focussing their frustrations about lack of contact on the DIL- I mean did they not bring their DS up to have an opinion?

Let your DH deal with it as it's his choice whether he wants to raise it with his own mother and whether he goes.

xogossipgirlxo · 09/11/2022 13:57

Ahhh, I know it very well. My SIL is exactly the same. We've been together for 8 years, there was family event, and she texted my husband if he's coming (and in Polish it's very clear if you're talking about one person or two and more people- you can't just misunderstand it as "you" in English). I said fuck it. I'm not some random girl you picked in a club last night. We were engaged back then! My husband had my back and told her it would be nice if she finally accepted the fact, he's not single, but actually shares life with a woman. Your MIL sounds incredibly petty. Just drop DH and kids off and wave her with middle finger.

PinkiOcelot · 09/11/2022 13:58

BlackBarbie · 08/11/2022 02:43

I’d be thrilled to not be invited to a panto with my in laws

God me too. I hate pantos!

openscanofworms · 09/11/2022 13:58

I think you should let your husband ask.

Also, I’d be upset not to see my kids opening presents from their grandmother and possibly from aunt, uncle and cousins ….

suzanneinfo · 09/11/2022 13:58

Sounds like MIL might be the one overthinking. I have dealt with this on both sides of my family. Not being included in family photos, death notices! because not a 'real' member of family as not married but in a decade long relationship etc. On my side being invited to dinners not knowing that others had been excluded because 'they'd only want to bring everyone'. Inheritance only going to blood that I stood up about Again without knowledge getting preference for baby sitting/ sleepovers. Can see how it looked in retrospect but did try to intervene at multiple points and I became the enemy. Got tired of hearing all these 'truths' about me that only existed in the heads of others so stepped back which got me labelled strange, entitled, judgemental: take your pick. Longer ramble than intended. But my question is how much do you want to go to that panto?😂

Fattoushi · 09/11/2022 14:05

Why would she invite you? You're not close. She has invited her children and grandchildren, what's wrong with that?

It's not like she invited another DIL or SIL and left you out. Nothing to see here, move on.