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DH isn't a "natural dad", am I being a cow?

193 replies

AllTheOtherNamesWereTaken · 04/11/2022 20:11

So our DS is 15 months old, I really love my DH and I know he loves me and DS but I really feel that his fathering is falling short.

We're in the middle of yet another argument as every few months I bring up an aspect I think he's lacking in, he gets upset/offended/ thinks IABU then he'll make a little change for the better.

For a bit of background he's never been into babies but really wants a family, I thought it would click into place when we had our own. It took a while for him to bond which I know is normal and fine, but because I love being a mum so much I automatically do pretty much all the baby care stuff (but would never stop him doing any) and I EBF which made it hard in the early days as whenever DS went to him he'd cry to come back for a feed. DH is supportive of me BF but definitely has a lot of feelings of rejection by DS especially as now he's super clingy with me.

From my point of view I want DH to scoop up DS when he can, take the opportunities to spend time with him that he can, do his best to make him laugh often etc. I just want to see him be a natural fun dad like I see in a couple of our family members who are dads. When he has DS and he's upset he'll shh and pat his back like he's a newborn instead of trying to be fun and distracting - I've tried to point out to him when our mums both do this but he hasn't taken it on board or will make a very flat attempt and say it didn't work.

From his point of view he looks after us by bringing in the money, cooking dinner and doing what housework he can. He is amazing at these things, I am a full time mum which I appreciate so much, but DS obviously doesn't understand all this and only understands time and fun with his dad. He thinks newborns are boring and has been waiting for DS to be more of a 'fun' toddler but he's not stepping up anywhere near as much as I'd hope now DS is bigger.

He says lots of dads do nothing helpful with family life and kids, so by comparison he is good (he also thinks he's doing an appropriate amount and to give him time to build it up himself). From my point of view I cannot understand why he's not striving to be like the best examples we know of natural dads.

I'm not asking him to give me relief or time off, I'm just asking to put in more daddy effort. To be fair to him he's been saying for a while he'll take him out for a few hours at the weekends so they can have time together but life's been to busy recently that we haven't had the chance.

A lot of the opportunities I'd like him to take are things like getting up at the weekend in time to have breakfast with us and more play time, but he's tried and stressed from work. I half totally understand and don't expect him to get up all the time as he travels a lot and needs to recoup, and I half think it's a habit I've let him get away with for too long and sometimes he needs to get his ass up with us.

YABU- this is normal dad behaviour and you are lucky he provides for you

YANBU- he should step up his game with DS

OP posts:
ExtraOnions · 04/11/2022 20:15

Maybe he’s not wrong, maybe he’s just not you … who’s to say that you are right all the time?

TBH it would drive me mad if my partner was pointing out all the things they believe I was getting wrong.

Maybe you just leave the two of them alone, and let him get on with it, in his own way

Aworldofmyown · 04/11/2022 20:15

You sound pretty condescending. Is there such a thing as a natural parent, most of us are learning as we go. Telling your husband he's no good at it won't help.

Kirbee · 04/11/2022 20:17

You mean he doesn't fit the mould of what you would consider to be the ideal father?

40andfit · 04/11/2022 20:17

Or alternatively you need to back off and give him so space to find the way he wants to parent. As stay at home mums of course we will know our kids well and will usually have a good idea of what to do in a given situation but it’s not always better than Dad’s different ideas. Suggest he has a set time eg Saturday morning, for Daddy time when the two of them go off and do something together.

underneaththeash · 04/11/2022 20:17

Do you spend more time with your DS? If you do maybe just teach him - I don’t think parenting happens easily, especially when most of us as far from childhood when we have our own children.

SerenaTee · 04/11/2022 20:17

Does he ask for your feedback or do you just decide when he’s not meeting your expectations and then tell him where he’s not meeting your aspirations for a “natural” dad (whatever that actually means!)?

alak · 04/11/2022 20:19

He probably feels a bit nervous/awkward trying to do anything because you're criticising him rather than letting him get on with it and find his way. The way DH settles our DS is different to how I do it but both our approaches work fine.

Can you not go out for a few hours now and then to let him have time with DS without you watching over them?

shivawn · 04/11/2022 20:19

Is there such a thing as a natural parent, most of us are learning as we go.

My thoughts exactly

mynameiscalypso · 04/11/2022 20:19

I feel a bit sorry for your DH. I'm not really a natural or fun parent but I love my DS more than I could possible say. I would hate to think that my DH was judging me in the way that you're judging your DH.

Doowop1919 · 04/11/2022 20:20

When he has DS and he's upset he'll shh and pat his back like he's a newborn instead of trying to be fun and distracting

So your husband validates and sympathises with your son's feelings and you think this is a bad thing?

Sorry, op, but you're being really unreasonable.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 04/11/2022 20:20

Yabu.
He is trying.
It gets easier as they grow.
Both of my DC prefer Dad for fun and entertainment.

Echobelly · 04/11/2022 20:20

I think maybe you're overthinking this. Everyone approaches parenting differently and I wonder if you're seeing things that aren't there when you look at other dads because you've internalised the idea your DH is not a 'natural'. Also some parents just don't really 'do' the baby stage - my dad was a great parent but my has said he wasn't that into my siblings and I as babies and got much better as we started talking and being more interactive. And some mums feel like that too.

It's great he does a lot around the house by the sound of things, so I think you should probably back off a bit about how he is with the baby because it will just cause unecessary resentment.

Anotherbloodyusername2 · 04/11/2022 20:20

I think you need to give him some space to figure out how do be a dad himself. Do they have much time alone together? Can you start going out once a week and leaving them to it? Or maybe he could take DS to a baby class each weekend or something? (Swimming? Football?)

GiltEdges · 04/11/2022 20:20

YABU. Your DH is entitled to be a different type of parent than you. Your way isn’t automatically better than his. Leave him alone.

MilkToastHoney · 04/11/2022 20:23

My DH got up both weekend days so I could lie in (EBF so I did all night wakings etc ).

As DC got older, DH would take them out for a few hours.

DH would usually do bath and pyjamas then I’d feed to sleep.

DH did do a lot of playing etc with them.

DH did all cleaning, most of cooking.

The lie ins and him taking them out regularly (supermarket shop, park, soft play etc) did make a huge difference to my mental health having that break. EBF can be hard physically and mentally and I’m glad I had DH support. I BF until DC self weaned ( 4 and 6 years) but they were super close to DH too, although I think maybe because he put a lot of time/effort in. Sometimes I’d be offering milk and they’d be crying for ‘Daddy’!

Maybe try and have a good talk about it all so it doesn’t build resentment in the future. Maybe one lie in each? You are also tired and need to re-coup.

CFLandlordStory · 04/11/2022 20:23

Urgh you sound awful.

I hope your DH is able to ignore you before you ruin his relationship with his child.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/11/2022 20:23

Ah, you’ve posted at the wrong time of the wrong day, with the wrong moon or something OP!

He sounds like he’s being very lazy. What you need to do with babies is put your back into it a bit - you need to try, and to want to be able to take over. Babies and toddlers can sense a half arsed attempt, and a half arsed attempt can often mean just not wanting the effort involved.

How many Mums get to be “not a natural parent” and ease into it “in their own time”?

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 04/11/2022 20:24

I wouldn't be with someone who was as critical as you sound.

Do you give him a performance review? Set KPIs? Because it certainly sounds like it.

He should be able to settle his own child however he feels is appropriate without being told he's doing it wrong.

mamange · 04/11/2022 20:25

I think you are being massively controlling tbh and disrupting the natural relationship your partner and child could have. You are under
mining him and probably destroying his confidence in being a dad. I find the bit where you put you don’t understand why he doesn’t strive to be like other natural dads very strange indeed. Your partner is your team mate and you should have his back and be supporting him, it sounds like you are window shopping about and wishing you went with a different model/ man

Cuck00soup · 04/11/2022 20:25

I think you are showing a lack of empathy. Fast forward 10 years. DS and DH are out constantly playing a sport that you don't enjoy and aren't particularly good at.

Imagine how shit you would feel if your DH complained you weren't any good at football.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/11/2022 20:25

Some people are saying just different styles - what is the style that involves not ever getting up in the morning with your child, please?

Topgub · 04/11/2022 20:27

I dont think dad's are just there to provide.

I think they should be equal parents not just fun parents.

You've chosen to be a sahm so haven't gone down the equal parenting route but are still complaining he doesn't parent exactly as you want him to.

You sound really annoying and critical.

No wonder he's fed up.

GiltEdges · 04/11/2022 20:27

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/11/2022 20:25

Some people are saying just different styles - what is the style that involves not ever getting up in the morning with your child, please?

Maybe the style where you work full time to support your partner being a SAHM and are shattered.

nonstoprenovation · 04/11/2022 20:27

I just picked up on some wording " he was going to take DS out on the weekends but WE don't have the time"

That to me says it all, basically you have taken full control of your baby and expect your DH to book in time with you?

What if he said hey I'm going to take DS out to my (insert friends) place for a couple of hours on Sunday?

Would you "let him" or would you fuss about making sure he has this and that and a list of don't do this don't do that.. be sure to do this.

Because I suspect that's the case, and you are maybe the one taking the fun out of your fun DH

Let him be, give him space and time and back off and let him parent the way he wants too.

Else you'll be back on here in 5 years time saying "he does nothing"

5128gap · 04/11/2022 20:28

I feel a bit sorry for him actually. I have this mental picture of a rather serious man doing his best to soothe his son with you hanging over him telling him he's failing because hes not coco the clown. You do realise it's a vicious circle dont you? The more you tell him he's not doing right by the child, the more awkward he'll feel and act? Not all parents are naturally confident with babies. I wasn't and I'm the mum. Confidence grows as you develop your own way of interacting and build your unique relationship with your child, ideally with those around you encouraging not criticising you. Step back and let him step up.