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To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

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Alondra · 31/10/2022 11:55

Apologies for making a second part to this thread but I feel strongly about this issue.

Topgub

Possibly because there aren't any benefits

Few countries have a government system caring about women and children. The majority of our governments don't care if all have to work for a pittance to pay mortgage, bills and food when children are small because average couples need both wages. A system where nursery fees are stratospheric and eating half an average wage, and worse still, because parents working full time, making an average pay to be able to survive, have few serious tax concessions. Those tax concessions go to multinationals.

It's a system that only cares about productivity attached to $. If you are an engineer with projects worth a million dollars, your salary will be minimum 15% of that money annually. If you are a carer or a parent, there is no quoted money attached to your work, so you are in a low wage or no wage at all.

A woman with two kids working full time for an average salary has not gained much from my mother’s time. Working full time, taking care of the kids when they are home and doing the lion share of housework and rarely free time at all.

With housing costs, bills and health systems collapsing, I really fear for women in the next few years. We will get the short straw as we've always done, but it'll be a plus if, at least, we don't turn on each other.

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AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:46

Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2022 17:44

Fucking hell. You really should be kicked off this site. Find somewhere else to abuse women. Coming on 24 hours of this guff.

Another one who was oddly silent when the abuse was levelled towards me yet pipes up if I defend myself.

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:47

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:42

Yeah, I agree. I don't much care if people find enrichment and stimulation through their work, why would I? It's their life. However, the implication that without work you must be sedentary, depressed, and bored is strange to me.

Yes, except that when the OP was asked how she fills her time she said she answers the door to Amazon, paints and rests. That's not a joke. She said she needs to be well rested.

In fact OP sounds so sedentary I can only assume she's cold blooded and must preserve energy

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:47

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Nice use of Karen as an insult from someone who swears up and down they are not mysoginistic 🤡

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:47

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:44

Like watching anime and porn with the hubby?

Do you look down on people who watch anime? I find that odd in itself. People enjoy different things. I don't look down on someone who enjoys video games while praising someone who reads classic literature. It doesn't matter,it's of no importance to anyone else but them.

FlamencoDance · 31/10/2022 17:47

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AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:48

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:44

Like watching anime and porn with the hubby?

You have an issue with anime? I already know MN is full of vanilla folks who take issues with porn so that's unsurprising.

But no, to answer the question, there's places I wish to travel to, books I want to read, experiences I wish to have.

FlamencoDance · 31/10/2022 17:49

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Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2022 17:49

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:46

Another one who was oddly silent when the abuse was levelled towards me yet pipes up if I defend myself.

You were responsible for much of the abuse on the other thread.

This is just goady, woman-hating bile from you across two threads. I doubt you're actually a woman.

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:49

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:47

Yes, except that when the OP was asked how she fills her time she said she answers the door to Amazon, paints and rests. That's not a joke. She said she needs to be well rested.

In fact OP sounds so sedentary I can only assume she's cold blooded and must preserve energy

And if she wants to rest and enjoys it and is happy with her life... Why does it matter? If people want to do lots of physical activity, that's great for them. If they want to paint and rest, that's great for them. I don't really understand why it matters to people.

Topgub · 31/10/2022 17:49

@cagliari

Except you do post on threads about working mums. You do have views on my lifestyle choice.

I'm actually finding it hilarious that you spent ages claiming to be oh so interested in my reasons and now you're just going to ignore them. Again. Because you can't actually counter anything I've said

🤣

And no, you can't stop me posting. Odd that you even considered that as an option.

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:49

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:47

Do you look down on people who watch anime? I find that odd in itself. People enjoy different things. I don't look down on someone who enjoys video games while praising someone who reads classic literature. It doesn't matter,it's of no importance to anyone else but them.

Yes. Yes I do. Especially in someone who poses as the picture of maturity and feels superior to everyone on this thread.

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:50

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Yes, I imagine her DH will be getting a power foot rub tonight. Must get out all those frustrations.

MsPincher · 31/10/2022 17:50

cagliari · 31/10/2022 17:45

Topgub - whenever anyone asks why you are on SAHM threads your go-to defence is to accuse them of being over- invested in you.

Anyway, whatever. I cdnt stop you being on SAHM threads, I know that. It's the internet. The difference is though, I AM A SAHM. You are not. I can assure you, I would not be forever on threads about whatever it is you do, nor would I feel the need to take a view about your "lifestyle choice." Couldn't care less. See the difference?

I think you are over invested in @Topgub tbf

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:50

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:47

Yes, except that when the OP was asked how she fills her time she said she answers the door to Amazon, paints and rests. That's not a joke. She said she needs to be well rested.

In fact OP sounds so sedentary I can only assume she's cold blooded and must preserve energy

No actually, someone asked whats the benefit of having someone specialise in the domestic sphere past school age and I gave an entire list. You picked on one item, deliveries, which was a minor advantage at that, and acted like I said that was the sole reason for doing it. Because you're a disingenuous clown.

As for sedentary - lol. I lift weights 4x per week. Any more incorrect analyses? Please continue it's hilarious.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:51

Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2022 17:49

You were responsible for much of the abuse on the other thread.

This is just goady, woman-hating bile from you across two threads. I doubt you're actually a woman.

What a weird way to ask for my nudes. Sorry but I don't sell pics.

FlamencoDance · 31/10/2022 17:51

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Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:52

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:50

No actually, someone asked whats the benefit of having someone specialise in the domestic sphere past school age and I gave an entire list. You picked on one item, deliveries, which was a minor advantage at that, and acted like I said that was the sole reason for doing it. Because you're a disingenuous clown.

As for sedentary - lol. I lift weights 4x per week. Any more incorrect analyses? Please continue it's hilarious.

Specialise in the domestic sphere hahahaha hahaha. Bloody hell keep going OP this is great. Was that an optional module in uni?

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:52

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:49

Yes. Yes I do. Especially in someone who poses as the picture of maturity and feels superior to everyone on this thread.

Why the hell do you look down on anime of all things? 🤣 That's such a bizarre thing to say.

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:53

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:49

Yes. Yes I do. Especially in someone who poses as the picture of maturity and feels superior to everyone on this thread.

I don't think watching anime makes someone immature. There are anime series that are made for 15/18+ due to the themes such as horror or gore and the like. It's not all porn or Pokémon. Either way, I don't see why being an adult means you can't enjoy or indulge in "childish" things, that seems rather sad.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:53

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:52

Specialise in the domestic sphere hahahaha hahaha. Bloody hell keep going OP this is great. Was that an optional module in uni?

Trying to change the subject because i called out your incorrect assumptions 💀

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:53

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:52

Why the hell do you look down on anime of all things? 🤣 That's such a bizarre thing to say.

It's a neckbeard hobby and pathetic once you're over the age of 20 or so.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:54

Eindaira · 31/10/2022 17:53

I don't think watching anime makes someone immature. There are anime series that are made for 15/18+ due to the themes such as horror or gore and the like. It's not all porn or Pokémon. Either way, I don't see why being an adult means you can't enjoy or indulge in "childish" things, that seems rather sad.

Nah when you turn 18 it's all suits, stock markets and telling kids to get off the grass. No fun allowed.

Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2022 17:54

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:51

What a weird way to ask for my nudes. Sorry but I don't sell pics.

Odd that nudity is what your mind immediately jumps to. Or perhaps not.

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:54

RandomMusings7 · 31/10/2022 17:53

It's a neckbeard hobby and pathetic once you're over the age of 20 or so.

What an utterly stupid comment lol.

Autumndays123 · 31/10/2022 17:54

AMorningstar · 31/10/2022 17:53

Trying to change the subject because i called out your incorrect assumptions 💀

Change the subject? You said specialise in the domestic sphere and I commented on it. Are you drunk OP?