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To think this was a hurtful way for DH to kill my career change dream?

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NaTTate · 30/10/2022 10:51

I've been holding the dream of retraining for a career change for the last 16 months, whilst working in a full time job that I took just to pay the bills. DH had seemed supportive of the retraining idea. He has no interest in the particular field himself, so he took a minimal level of interest in what I was doing or talking about with my research and plans, but he had seemed verbally supportive of them.

But then yesterday, after I'd suddenly and unexpectedly been offered a fully funded training place on the course I wanted and would need to hand my notice in at work this week in order to accept the place, he turned around and said "I don't think you should do it. I think you'd be really bad at it."

I'm so thrown and devastated by his comment that I don't know what to think or do. It's utterly crushed my confidence. Is it unreasonable for me to feel that this is not the way a partner who loves you should raise any concerns they might have about whether you are making the wrong choice? It was so brutal and said coldly and he then shut down all my attempts to discuss it together and has seemed distant and angry ever since.

Back story for context (sorry, it's long):

A couple of years ago I was heavily researching career ideas and especially careers suitable for retraining in at a later point in life (I'm late forties). I was feeling pretty desperate, having got myself into a niche London-based career that I couldn't carry on with once we had relocated for DH's work, which contributed to me deciding to be a SAHM for a few years - and then led to me feeling increasingly irrelevant and out of touch. A specific area of tech came up as something I felt interested in and I found a training course (bootcamp type course) that looked to be well run, well respected, had mentoring and support for students and had good results at helping them find jobs afterwards. To apply you had to complete an intensive set of training labs, to show that you had the ability and commitment. I worked really hard at it over several weeks, I found some of it difficult, but from the online discussion forum I could see that others were too. I completed it and passed. I received an offer of a place, but at the same time my desperate job search (which had been unsuccessful over a long period of time) suddenly threw up a job offer. A graduate entry level job, on less than I'd been earning a decade ago, but a starting point. It was in a field I'd considered but wasn't in the area of tech I'd been pushing towards. The tech course was going to cost £9k, income share agreements were available, but we were struggling financially and not able to meet outgoings so I took the job offer and arranged with the training provider to defer my place (they take on several cohorts a year) - thinking that I could give the new job a good shot, decide whether it had potential for a long term career with progression, and keep the other idea on the back burner.

I'm managing the new job but I'm not excelling in it, I don't think the role is overall a very good match for my skill set or the way my brain works and I don't think the field has good enough prospects long term. There are aspects that are good about the job - nice company culture and my practical day to day working life works well for us (job is remote). However, I'm already feeling a bit stuck, I'm finding the low pay without an obvious path to progress frustrating and confidence-denting. I'm going to be 50 next month and I'll be on £25k, it's not what I hoped and I'm scared I'm going to have a poverty-stricken old age. The idea that I might do the tech training course at some point in the next 12-24 months and move into that field instead has been keeping me going at times. I've been continuing to read books and do practice labs in that field, but not nearly as often as I'd intended, as my the workload of my job is high and I've been finding going back to full time work with a family taking almost every bit of spare time and energy I have.

Last week the tech training provider contacted me out of the blue to say they had some 100% funded places available, but there is only one cohort they can use them on (government funding with a deadline) and a place is mine if I want it. If I want to take the place I will have to had my notice in at work on Monday to be able to work my notice period and be free in time to start. Which feels daunting and sudden - hence me wanting to discuss it with DH. It will have big economic impacts on the family in the short term - it's a full time course so I wouldn't be earning for 4 months (plus however long it took to secure a job afterwards). So it's a big decision and will affect the whole family, DH is not in a high earning field, so it would be tight and a struggle. We would have to borrow to meet our living costs. The career field is in high demand and well paid so hopefully the earning potential in the future will be far better than anything I've ever had before, but it's obviously always a risk to quit a job in this way and it doesn't feel like I can just go off and hand in my notice and do it anyway without DH's support.

I've been reflecting on what he said and realised that I would never say that to someone who was talking about their plans and goals - not to him, not to a friend. I might bring up possible issues, skill sets versus areas that the person might struggle with. But I would never be broadly supportive for months and then suddenly come straight out and say "I think you'd be really bad at this" and then refuse to engage any further. I don't feel like a person who actually cares would say this to someone. That's what I'm particularly gutted about. It feels brutal and not loving and not a mature way for two adults to make any decision. I'm interested to know what anyone else thinks about this - would you be gutted if your partner said this to you in this way? Or would you welcome brutal honesty?

I've just spent 16 months doing online coursework and study aids, watching youtube videos and reading books on the subject and he knows this. So why would he say it now, after all this time, when I'm potentially right on the verge of starting? The time to bring up a serious concern was before now, it makes me think he didn't ever really think I would do it. He did mention a concern about whether it was a good fit for me once a few months ago, but from his comments I realised he thought that I would be basically doing IT support, which is not at all what the career path is, and I could wholeheartedly see why I'd be rubbish at that; so I briefly went over what the subject actually was and what the potential career paths would be, suggested he look at some of the training labs I'd been doing and I could show him more detail about career roles etc. He wasn't interested in doing that or learning more about the field, so he didn't, which is fine, but I thought he at least had a bit more understanding of the field and seemed broadly supportive again.

When I received this offer of a funded place, I wasn't 100% sure myself what I should do, there are so many factors to consider - possibly I should stay a bit longer in this job, commit more fully and see where it goes, or else save up more money and accept paying the full amount to do the tech course at a time that feels less sudden and is more planned for us as a family. Or perhaps I should
grab this chance while it's here? I really wanted us to be able to discuss all this together. And I feel like by just saying "I think you'd be really bad at it" he has just effectively shut down all discussion and wrecked my confidence and enthusiasm. Maybe I would be shit at it. It's really hard to tell from the outside (of anything) what the reality would be like. But I've spent hours and hours over several years looking into what I might be able to do and I haven't come up with much else - that I feel I'd be good at, or would want to do, or have time or money to retrain in at this stage in life, or that would be a career that would fit around DH's long and irregular working hours, that will see me to retirement age and beyond. And he hasn't come up with realistic alternative suggestions either. Or indeed shown any interest in finding out what this idea actually entails. My confidence was pretty wrecked at this point in life anyway. I felt this was my best shot.

AIBU to feel that this is a hurtful way for DH to have responded to me?

OP posts:
mamabear715 · 30/10/2022 10:55

Do it. I'm sure you'd have supported your DH had it been the other way round.
Do you think he's just worried about money?

Keyansier · 30/10/2022 10:56

I think you should go for it but I don't think it sounds the least bit hurtful, no. From the title I thought it was going to be something jaw dropping.

LeMoo · 30/10/2022 10:57

Do it. It'll be your biggest regret if you don't.

PonyPatter44 · 30/10/2022 10:58

Tbh, I would also feel very anxious if my partner took 4 months with no pay, but your DH has absolutely been a shit in the way he has expressed that. If you've got the ability to retrain and get through the selection process, then why shouldn't you be good at it? If he has a history of putting you down, thats one thing, but if he hasn't, he might just be expressing himself clumsily. He might be afraid that you're going to leave him behind.

Look, its an employee's market out there. Anyone can walk into a job at the moment, and that won't have changed in 6 months. Even if there's no jobs in your new field, there will be a million 25k+ admin jobs you will be able to take.

I really think you should go for it.

lechatnoir · 30/10/2022 10:58

Woah op that was long.

My take on this is he's either:
a) a dick.
b) genuinely/rightly concerned about the finances and trying to put you off albeit in a a rather cruel way

Will doing this course have any other impact on the family home other than finances ? And on the finances, you won't be earning for 4 months plus you could be 3+ months looking. Can you afford this? If you can I'd tell him to sod off and crack on. If you, would aa PT evening/holiday job tide you over?

Foolsandtheirmoney · 30/10/2022 10:58

I agree that you should go for it. Trust yourself and prove your dh wrong.

SomethingVexesThee · 30/10/2022 10:59

Keyansier · 30/10/2022 10:56

I think you should go for it but I don't think it sounds the least bit hurtful, no. From the title I thought it was going to be something jaw dropping.

You don't think it was hurtful to tell her she'd be really bad at it? You must have thick skin!

minipie · 30/10/2022 11:00

Yes I think it’s hurtful

Also not sure why your DH is so sure you’d be bad at it given you’ve gone through an extended entry process and got an offer.

Also not sure why you relocated for DH’s job away from your previous career to become SAHM when he’s not a high earner

I may be wrong but it sounds like he enjoys his career being top dog and is maybe a bit threatened by your plans?

SunlightThroughTrees · 30/10/2022 11:01

@Keyansier you don’t think “I think you’d be really bad at it” is remotely hurtful??

OP- go for it and WELL DONE for following your dream and retraining!!!

Keyansier · 30/10/2022 11:01

SomethingVexesThee · 30/10/2022 10:59

You don't think it was hurtful to tell her she'd be really bad at it? You must have thick skin!

You don't think it was hurtful to tell her she'd be really bad at it?

No, not really. And you're assuming that the OP is good at it when he could be nearer the truth. I said she should still do it though.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 30/10/2022 11:01

sounds like you’ve been holding it all together at home as well as working full time. His work/life balance will change and he doesn’t like it. I would also be very hurt.

TimeForTeaAndG · 30/10/2022 11:01

Keyansier · 30/10/2022 10:56

I think you should go for it but I don't think it sounds the least bit hurtful, no. From the title I thought it was going to be something jaw dropping.

You don't think it's hurtful being told by your DH after you've worked really hard, passed tests, been offered a place, that you'd be bad at something? You wouldn't be just a little bit annoyed?

OP, figure out the finances and go for it. He sounds unsupportive so prepare yourself for "well if you hadn't given up your job...." type complaints.

lifeinthehills · 30/10/2022 11:02

Go for it and prove him wrong.

Shortpoet · 30/10/2022 11:02

They’ve offered you a 100% funded place. Take their opinion of your worth and ability over your husband who doesn’t even fully understand the field.

Yes it might be sudden, but if you wait for “the perfect time” that time might never come.

I think if you don’t take it you will regret it.

LadyDancealot · 30/10/2022 11:03

Firstly, do you believe the course providers would have offered you a fully-funded place , which I imagine is as rare as hens' teeth, if they didn't believe that you would excel? Is your DH extremely senior and a trail-blazer in this field of tech? Thought no. My feeling (and what do I know from a couple of paragraphs) is it sounds like he's scared he may have to engage more in family life and there's a chance you may have a stable future ahead of you, regardless of whether you're with him or not. I appreciate the wanting what's best for your family sentiment, but in your shoes (and with bitter hindsight), I'd grab the training course, as time's not on your side (they could offer to someone else), and then pick through your relationship afterwards. But in essence, no, it's not great. He's not championing you.

something2say · 30/10/2022 11:04

I'd be hurt and off guard after a comment like that yes.

It needs talking about.

But on the whole I'd probably go for the course and I'd do some weekend work to tide me over. And I'd be a bit worried that I'm more alone now with these choices, if my partner secretly doesn't want me to get ahead.

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 11:06

Do it. Don’t let him put you off. And keep you in a role you don’t want to keep doing. What a horrible little man, he just is worried about money. But instead of saying that he’s put you down. What an utter shit

Apileofballyhoo · 30/10/2022 11:07

Do it. Don't dream of not doing it. You 100% need to secure your own future from a partner that spoke to you like that and restore the power imbalance.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/10/2022 11:07

I'd have said 'We just can't afford the loss of income' a hundred times before I'd tell DP he'd be shit at a job - even if he would be. Because one is regrettable but the other is hurtful.

Unless money is actually so bad that he's tried to say you/he can't afford it so many times but you aren't listening?

IncompleteSenten · 30/10/2022 11:08

Well that was a horrible way to put it.

Yes he may well have said nothing up till now because he genuinely thought it would come to nothing but if he thinks you wouldn't be capable of doing it he owes you facts. Examples. Reasons.

Twinklenoseblows · 30/10/2022 11:09

The fact that the course provider has specifically contacted you to offer you the place suggests you scored well on your tests and they really believe in you and your ability to do the course and therefore the job. Go for it!

ThePennywiseOfMyHaunt · 30/10/2022 11:10

I'd be very hurt. You should take it, it reads to me he feels threatened and
Is undermining you.
Look at any temp nights/weekends seasonal work to help cover the shortfall.

PuppyMonkey · 30/10/2022 11:10

Keyansier · 30/10/2022 10:56

I think you should go for it but I don't think it sounds the least bit hurtful, no. From the title I thought it was going to be something jaw dropping.

Blimey, if you don’t think that sounds hurtful, I worry what somebody would have to say to really offend you.Grin

There are ways of expressing doubt and feeling a bit worried about a partner taking the wrong route that don’t involve telling her “you’d be really bad at this.”

RandomMess · 30/10/2022 11:11

Absolutely do it.

I think he feels threatened by your get up and go. You sacrificed your career for his by relocating so now he needs to step up and make this opportunity work for you.

2pinkginsplease · 30/10/2022 11:13

You need a better chat with him but is he worrying about how you will manage financially?

could you work part time in the evening while doing the course to bring in some money?

id definitely be grabbing it with both hands, dh supported me in leaving a minimum wage job and going to college for a year to retrain, it was tough as I worked in the evening but fast forward a few years and I’m loving my job and the benefit of better wages,

we only live once we need to grab each opportunity with both hands,