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Wtf! JLL married his 13 year old Cousin

207 replies

Paris2023 · 28/10/2022 23:22

BBC article

why are all these ‘celebs’ offering condolences to a pedophile?

OP posts:
Weemummykay · 29/10/2022 07:57

PurpleButterflyWings · 28/10/2022 23:52

Bit nasty isn't it? Legal in some states though. (As horrific as it is!)

Didn't R Kelly marry Aaliyah when she was 15 and he was nearly 30?! And that wasn't the dark ages, that was the mid 1990s!

@PurpleButterflyWings his lawyer had doctored the paperwork to say she was 18 so they could do it

Sgtmajormummy · 29/10/2022 08:01

Jerry Lee Lewis had the nickname “The Killer” (nit sure of the details) and used to introduce himself as that on stage. And trash a piano at most performances.

One drug-crazed messed-up guy.
Great music, though…

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/10/2022 08:03

Cheeseandcrackers86 · 29/10/2022 03:08

  1. she fell for him is the big difference. They didn't start courting for many years after that. I had my first 'crush' on a man and would go around saying I fancied him when I was 7/8 but the big difference is he didn't even remotely reciprocate because he wasn't a creep. It was just silly kid stuff obviously

  2. Lots of us might be 3rd cousins without realising it and once you get to 2nd cousin once removed you're no more genetically similar than a random pairing so tbh this isn't that icky

Well said. Agreed on all points.

Hangingoninthere88 · 29/10/2022 08:06

Does anyone else find it incredibly suss that he had 2 wives and a child who drowned?!?! .... or did people just drown more in the 50's too?

Afterfire · 29/10/2022 08:07

Hangingoninthere88 · 29/10/2022 08:06

Does anyone else find it incredibly suss that he had 2 wives and a child who drowned?!?! .... or did people just drown more in the 50's too?

I’ve wondered this too. Seems incredibly “unfortunate”.

PrincessScarlett · 29/10/2022 08:08

I still remember the Bill Wyman/Mandy Smith relationship as the tabloid newspapers were obsessed. There was so much coverage of them. I was a teenager at the time and absolutely horrified that the newspapers could print all the stuff they did about how old she was and he was never prosecuted. As for her mother, actively encouraging the relationship 🤮

Dahliasstillinbloom · 29/10/2022 08:09

ninetieseyebrows · 28/10/2022 23:28

And Pricilla was 14 when Elvis married her, child brides must have been en vogue then. Sickening

She was 21, almost 22. They met when she was 14, in Germany where her father was a much higher rank in the army than Elvis Presley. On discharge he returned to the US and she continued her education.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/10/2022 08:10

EconomyClassRockstar · 29/10/2022 04:41

Errrr, the guy you just made King was 29 when he met his future wife and she was 16 AND he was dating her sister. 32 and 19 when they married. Ick!!!

No. He may have met Diana for the first time when she was 16, but their 'relationship' didn't start until she was 19, and they became engaged when she was nearer 20 than 19. She was 20 when they married. Young, but legal, and not uncommon.

What's the relevance of his brief period dating her sister?

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 29/10/2022 08:11

Dolly Parton got married at 15? The legal age varies state tor state and some are really low/murky.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 29/10/2022 08:13

oh, i have just seen he died yesterday!
i didnt see any news

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/10/2022 08:16

This article is four years old. I don't know if there have been changes in the law since then. www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/feb/06/it-put-an-end-to-my-childhood-the-hidden-scandal-of-us-child-marriage

Jeanjanus · 29/10/2022 08:16

You know it was legal, and in some communities quite accepted.

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 29/10/2022 08:21

Peadophilia seems to be okay of you were a good musician. That seems to be how it works. JLL and Elvis turn my stomach. See also Bowie and Anthony Kedis.

How 'good' do you need to be, for peadophilia to be overlooked? Seems that there is a threshold

gogohmm · 29/10/2022 08:22

It was legal then, very uncomfortable now but not as much then where he lived. He was married 7 times apparently, and described as notorious - no angel!

There's a movie about him, saw in many years ago. Creepy guy

youlightupmyday · 29/10/2022 08:23

Fireballxl5 · 28/10/2022 23:33

Not true.
She met Elvis aged 14. Moved in with him at 17 and married at 22.

And she is quoted as saying that hr wouldn't have sex u til.they were married. There was a priscilla and Oprah interview

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 29/10/2022 08:29

Watch also the priscilla and Barbara Walters interview.

Elvis was a dirty pervert. He was into voyeurism and watched his crew having sex with other girls.

How he is so lauded makes my stomach turn.

He was a nonce.

He invited young girls over and watched them having pillow fights ffs.

Afterfire · 29/10/2022 08:29

Why is there an undertone of protecting Elvis on this thread? Whether he married her, had sex with her or not or whatever, being involved romantically with a young teenager is wrong. Totally wrong.

LostAtTheCrossRoad · 29/10/2022 08:32

@Lastqueenofscotland2 Dolly Parton was 20yrs and 4 months when she married Carl Dean, he was 23yrs 11mths. Worth being accurate.

Afterfire · 29/10/2022 08:32

It is very different two 14/15 year olds being in a young love type relationship to the one Elvis had with Priscilla. I don’t know why people keep trying to defend it.

youlightupmyday · 29/10/2022 08:35

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 29/10/2022 08:21

Peadophilia seems to be okay of you were a good musician. That seems to be how it works. JLL and Elvis turn my stomach. See also Bowie and Anthony Kedis.

How 'good' do you need to be, for peadophilia to be overlooked? Seems that there is a threshold

It is hebephilia, not paedophilia. Neither is fuxking great tbh, but there is a distinction.

Clawdy · 29/10/2022 08:35

These ludicrous ,foul, and untrue comments about Elvis sicken me. Try listening to interviews with Priscilla who loves him still. Won't be reading any more comments on this thread.

lljkk · 29/10/2022 08:38

And MGB was only 15/16 when she had her first child, the boy who drowned :(

JLL & MGB's daughter Phoebe became JLL's road manager for a while. MGB's youth at the marriage was something they all came to terms with. The wikipedia page on MGB is good read (or Myra Lewis Williams as she became later).

I'm thinking about getting hold of her 2nd autobiography, the one about her life not JLL's. JLL later married the ex-wife of MGB's brother, too.

I'm going to suspend my own opinions on marriages at 13-14 in cultural subgroups. It's still common in Traveller communities, Yemen, lots of places in world. Difficult to call it pedophilia because these girls simply aren't seen as children by anyone in the same cultural subgroups the way rest or this thread insists they are. In old days there was childhood & being grown up & no transition period inbetween: you can legit argue that there is a transition (early teen years) and it's still part of "childhood" but that's a modern view, not every culture has caught up to thinking that way.

Afterfire · 29/10/2022 08:39

Clawdy · 29/10/2022 08:35

These ludicrous ,foul, and untrue comments about Elvis sicken me. Try listening to interviews with Priscilla who loves him still. Won't be reading any more comments on this thread.

They weren’t even married / together anymore when he died. 🙄 Elvis fans are so ridiculous. If you say something against him / his relationship with Priscilla it’s like you’ve committed blasphemy.

TheaBrandt · 29/10/2022 08:42

What have I just read? We Surely you are not arguing that traveller and Yemeni women don’t deserve the same rights and protection that the rest of us?

PriamFarrl · 29/10/2022 08:44

John Peel married his first wife when she was 16 and he was in his 20s. They lived in Texas at the time.