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Not forcing my daughter to share her bedroom or stop going out to eat?

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tamarvin · 25/10/2022 18:53

Right now my sister, her husband, and their three kids (14f, 10m, 5m) are staying with me and my family temporarily while they are waiting on council housing. I have two kids (13f and 11m).

So I have four bedrooms in my house. The first is my own. The second one is my daughters bedroom. The third is my son's bedroom. The last bedroom is the guest room where my sister and her husband are sleeping.

From the first night they were here my son has wanted his 10 year old cousin to sleep in his room. Those two get along very well and enjoy each others company. So we set up my 14 year old niece and my 5 year old nephew in the lounge downstairs. My 5 year old nephew is apparently having a lot of anxiety problem so most of the time he sleeps in the guestroom with his parents.

My niece is unhappy with this arrangement because she feel likes she gets no privacy (downstairs is open plan). To solve this my sister wants me to force my daughter to share her bedroom with my niece. My daughter however is not as close with my niece as the boys are with each other. My daughter and niece have very different personalities. My niece can be loud and intimidating and my daughter on the other hand is very soft spoken. Having so many other people in the house has already been making her feel stressed and overwhelmed. All three boys being younger and energetic can make things feel chaotic. I don't want to force her to give up her only private area to retreat to for peace and quiet.

I told my sister that we can try to add a privacy curtain to a corner of the lounge for her daughter. My sister said that wouldn't help at all because anyone could just barge in. She says that a teenage girl should be able to have access to a lockable room especially in a house full of mostly boys. She doesn't see any issue with the girls sharing even though I told her my concerns. She thinks it would be a good opportunity for them to bond.

Another issue we've run into involved a weekly dinner I do with my kids. So far we've had no issues with regular dinner as we all contribute to the groceries and all the adults take turn cooking. I however would get my takeaway for my kids once a week. I let my them take turns each week to choose what they want. It's a treat at the end of the week that they both look forward too. My sister and her husband have a tight budget so they cannot afford to buy takeaway regularly. While I am a better off financially paying for everyone every week is not feasible as it is already expensive and it would cost double.

I thought that eating takeaway in front of them at home would be cruel though. I've had a little discussion about it with my kids and told them that while my sister and her family are staying with us we would be having our weekly dinner out instead of doing takeaway and eating at home. I thought this was a fair compromise.

My sister did not agree. She says it's obvious that we are going out to eat good food since we leave before dinner and when we come back home we don't eat anything. While my kids won't brag about going out to eat they will answer honestly when my niece or nephews ask where we went. They then end up feeling bad and my sister says they wouldn't feel bad if I just said no to my kids and that it wouldn't hurt my kids to not go out as often. I will also add that on a selfish note I don't want to stop taking them out to eat because its the only time I get to have with just the three of us alone now.

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TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 25/10/2022 18:56

OMG, ask them to leave.

They sound like they think it’s their house.

PayPennies · 25/10/2022 18:58

When two families club together in a single space this way - there are problems.

this isn’t about the takeaway or room sharing - it simply is the case that two families cannot be clubbed together and somehow expected to work.

when you agreed to this this is what you signed up to and will need to suffer this sort of thing till the two units can lead their own separate Iives.

HamIsMyCake · 25/10/2022 18:59

You are going above and beyond (I wish my sister was like you). Don’t give in to their totally unreasonable demands.

passport123 · 25/10/2022 19:00

I think you need to gently remind her that you are doing them a massive favour. They are welcome to leave if they find this all too stressful. Where were they living before?

Winterscomingagain · 25/10/2022 19:01

I'd be concerned that your accommodating them will slow down the council housing allocation. Surely they are homeless and should be stating this.

Petronus · 25/10/2022 19:01

Your sister has a lot of demands and opinions for someone who is accepting a big favour. Sounds like she needs to remember this.

Midnights · 25/10/2022 19:02

Your sister sounds like a CF in this post! Take your kids for their weekly meal, they shouldn't miss out.

Your daughter should definitely not be forced to share a room - it's her only peace and quiet in this hectic sounding household, if anything your sister and her husband should sleep downstairs and offer the spare bedroom to their DC if they're that concerned about it!

Reallyreallyborednow · 25/10/2022 19:02

How temporary is it?

i thought council wait lists were years long, and they won’t be priority because they’re housed.

i do think you’re a bit unreasonable. A 14 yo on the sofa for a few nights, but if it’s longer she needs something more private.

Chocchops72 · 25/10/2022 19:02

I think YABU to expect that you and your children could maintain your 'normal life' while an extra family a 5 people is living with you. I don't think that's realistic.

How long are they going to be there for? If it's short-term, then I would forgo the meals out, or I would swap to taking them out during the day, maybe at the weekend when your sister's children might be busy doing other things.

IDK about the bedroom sharing. My kids already share a bedroom and it's not a big deal, they work around each other. Again, it probably depends how long they are going to be there.

Y7drama · 25/10/2022 19:03

You’re being so kind and doing them a massive favour. I wonder where they are on the housing priority list as presumably from a council perspective, they have a home.

Sestriere · 25/10/2022 19:03

Goodness, are the council going to treat them as a priority whilst their in your four bed house?

you are doing them an enormous favour, they should put up and shut up and be appreciative of what sacrifices you have already made.

Pottedpalm · 25/10/2022 19:03

Sounds as though the easiest thing would be for the gotls to share.How does the poor girl
sleep when adults are still socialising?
Having agreed to them
staying it seems unfriendly to single her out.
As for the meals out, save up
the money for a bit treat when they leave.

Y7drama · 25/10/2022 19:04

I definitely wouldn’t make your dd share.

BaronessBomburst · 25/10/2022 19:04

Your daughter needs her space. Don't force her to share a room.
You and your children need quality time together as a family. It's completely reasonable to take your children out to eat once a week.
Your sister is responsible for her own fuck-ups and most certainly doesn't get to dictate to you in your own house.

SalmonEile · 25/10/2022 19:04

Your sister and husband give their daughter their room and take the sitting room themselves ?

VerveClique · 25/10/2022 19:05

Your sister, her daughter and 5yo sleep in your guest room.

Her husband sleeps downstairs.

Do what you like for tea… make it more about going out, and less about the food as such.

Soubriquet · 25/10/2022 19:05

Don’t make your dd share her room. She needs that space.

Unfortunately, your sister is beginning to sound very entitled and needs to rein it in

DNAwrangler · 25/10/2022 19:05

i agree that you’re doing them a huge favor and shouldn’t be asked for more!

maybe your sisters husband and little bro can sleep on the sofa and your niece in with her mum ?

serenaisaknobhead · 25/10/2022 19:06

Your sister needs to pull her finger out and find somewhere else for her family to live.

Their expectations of what you and your children should/shouldn't do are highly unreasonable and smack of ungratefulness.

If she were appreciative of all you're doing for her and her family, she would explain to her kids why things are different for you all, rather than expect you to change how you do things.

You've been more than generous.

It's time for them to go.

If the privacy curtain isn't good enough until then, I'd suggest your sister giving up the guest room for her daughter to use.

minisoksmakehardwork · 25/10/2022 19:06

It sounds like they were homeless and avoiding temporary accommodation by you taking them in. Unfortunately this means they are now not homeless and not a priority for homing.

I would check with them what's happening with their council property. There is no chance I would be re-arranging my children or my routine to accommodate their temporary needs. They will need to fit in with what you can offer.

I would also be continuing with my eating out/takeaway plans. It's not your fault they're not in the position to do this. But it may well be their own fault.

My family and I shared with my in-laws when we were in between homes. Dc had to share the small bedroom. We had the lounge. This meant we had to fit in with their schedule. It crippled me and I would fall asleep on the sofa. But I was grateful for the roof over our head. I wouldn't have dreamt of telling in-laws they had to change their days to fit us and your sister shouldn't be making that demand of you either.

MarshaMelrose · 25/10/2022 19:06

That's difficult. You've been very kind but I do think a 14yo girl needs privacy, especially with so many boys around. I'd have hated to be sleeping in so public a shared space. Could the boys sleep downstairs and she have their room? Boys tend to be much more relaxed about privacy issues.

Y7drama · 25/10/2022 19:06

Could you be living like this for a year or more? Would it be better in the long run for them to be made homeless?

Leeds2 · 25/10/2022 19:06

I think you are going above and beyond, and that your sister should be bloody well grateful instead of whinging!
I do not think YABU to continue to refuse to let your DD share with her cousin. It would be nice if she wanted to, but she doesn't.
With dinner, how do you normally eat? As in, one big meal shared by everyone or two separate family meals? If two separate meals, then maybe have the takeaway at home. If it were me, I would probably cut down on the takeaways to once a fortnight, and pay for your sister's family to have one too, but I don't think YABU to go out.

Lapland123 · 25/10/2022 19:06

They will never be housed while you are giving them a home

and as someone said above, give the daughter the lockable bedroom, the parents can stay downstairs

VerveClique · 25/10/2022 19:07

When my in-laws emigrated with their 3 DCs they had to wait a year to be housed. They lived in someone’s garage. Not a garage conversion… a garage. I think your relatives need to have a think about this.

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