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Not forcing my daughter to share her bedroom or stop going out to eat?

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tamarvin · 25/10/2022 18:53

Right now my sister, her husband, and their three kids (14f, 10m, 5m) are staying with me and my family temporarily while they are waiting on council housing. I have two kids (13f and 11m).

So I have four bedrooms in my house. The first is my own. The second one is my daughters bedroom. The third is my son's bedroom. The last bedroom is the guest room where my sister and her husband are sleeping.

From the first night they were here my son has wanted his 10 year old cousin to sleep in his room. Those two get along very well and enjoy each others company. So we set up my 14 year old niece and my 5 year old nephew in the lounge downstairs. My 5 year old nephew is apparently having a lot of anxiety problem so most of the time he sleeps in the guestroom with his parents.

My niece is unhappy with this arrangement because she feel likes she gets no privacy (downstairs is open plan). To solve this my sister wants me to force my daughter to share her bedroom with my niece. My daughter however is not as close with my niece as the boys are with each other. My daughter and niece have very different personalities. My niece can be loud and intimidating and my daughter on the other hand is very soft spoken. Having so many other people in the house has already been making her feel stressed and overwhelmed. All three boys being younger and energetic can make things feel chaotic. I don't want to force her to give up her only private area to retreat to for peace and quiet.

I told my sister that we can try to add a privacy curtain to a corner of the lounge for her daughter. My sister said that wouldn't help at all because anyone could just barge in. She says that a teenage girl should be able to have access to a lockable room especially in a house full of mostly boys. She doesn't see any issue with the girls sharing even though I told her my concerns. She thinks it would be a good opportunity for them to bond.

Another issue we've run into involved a weekly dinner I do with my kids. So far we've had no issues with regular dinner as we all contribute to the groceries and all the adults take turn cooking. I however would get my takeaway for my kids once a week. I let my them take turns each week to choose what they want. It's a treat at the end of the week that they both look forward too. My sister and her husband have a tight budget so they cannot afford to buy takeaway regularly. While I am a better off financially paying for everyone every week is not feasible as it is already expensive and it would cost double.

I thought that eating takeaway in front of them at home would be cruel though. I've had a little discussion about it with my kids and told them that while my sister and her family are staying with us we would be having our weekly dinner out instead of doing takeaway and eating at home. I thought this was a fair compromise.

My sister did not agree. She says it's obvious that we are going out to eat good food since we leave before dinner and when we come back home we don't eat anything. While my kids won't brag about going out to eat they will answer honestly when my niece or nephews ask where we went. They then end up feeling bad and my sister says they wouldn't feel bad if I just said no to my kids and that it wouldn't hurt my kids to not go out as often. I will also add that on a selfish note I don't want to stop taking them out to eat because its the only time I get to have with just the three of us alone now.

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 25/10/2022 19:38

Petronus · 25/10/2022 19:01

Your sister has a lot of demands and opinions for someone who is accepting a big favour. Sounds like she needs to remember this.

Like it or lump it should be your mantra.

BaronessBomburst · 25/10/2022 19:39

MayFlower22 · 25/10/2022 19:30

Gosh this is so bad I thought it was a reverse. Why would you treat your neice so badly? Why is your dd more deserving because her parents aren't struggling at the moment. Sharing will be good for your daughter , teach her to think about others.

Women spend their entire bloody lives being nice and thinking of others and get treated like shit because of it. The OPs DD shouldn't have to give up her room just because her cousin's parents have failed to provide for their daughter.
Which leads back to the solution posted several times on this thread; the cousin gets the room (with the 5 yo) and the parents can sleep downstairs. If they refuse it'll tell you everything you need to know.

AllotmentTime · 25/10/2022 19:39

This is for a year?? So they have no imminent prospect of a house?

Why would the council house then, as far as they’re concerned if the family can live with you for a year they can live there indefinitely. I think you’ve scuppered their chances of being housed…

How did this situation come about, anyway?

It does put a different spin on the bedrooms though. I can imagine it would be miserable to have a living room as a bedroom for that long a time. Your original post made it sound more like it was a very short term thing eg while essential works were done on the house they’re about to move in to. A year is a long term plan especially if you’re a teenager.

Soubriquet · 25/10/2022 19:39

BaronessBomburst · 25/10/2022 19:39

Women spend their entire bloody lives being nice and thinking of others and get treated like shit because of it. The OPs DD shouldn't have to give up her room just because her cousin's parents have failed to provide for their daughter.
Which leads back to the solution posted several times on this thread; the cousin gets the room (with the 5 yo) and the parents can sleep downstairs. If they refuse it'll tell you everything you need to know.

Course they will refuse.

They will say their need their privacy

DeireadhFomhair · 25/10/2022 19:39

tamarvin · 25/10/2022 19:33

@pictish we made an agreement that they can stay for one year. They have been here for 4 months now.

A year Shock
You're a Saint!

Notimeforaname · 25/10/2022 19:40

Jesus christ a year???
Agree with poster above who said the parents should be in the living room.

whumpthereitis · 25/10/2022 19:40

Needmorelego · 25/10/2022 19:29

@Soubriquet it's not a perfect situation at all.
Yes it isn't fair to the OPs daughter. It isn't fair to the niece either.
Poor things (both girls - plus the boys).

OP and her children are already bending over backwards in order to be accommodating. Forcing the DD to share and forego their alone time as a family is a sure fire way to breed even more resentment. At some point ‘suck it up’ is the only available option for the sister’s family, especially when they’re living on someone else’s charity.

AmyandPhilipfan · 25/10/2022 19:41

I think there are two separate issues. Your allocation of the space and your sister making demands. In her position she should be grateful for the help you're giving her and should accept it as given.

But, I think it's quite unkind of your daughter to not be willing to share with her cousin. Sleeping in a living room in a house full of adults, brothers and cousins must be difficult for her and I think it would be nice for your daughter to realise that and to offer to share. You probably should have discussed it with your children first and only agreed to your sister coming if your children were willing to share their rooms.

lunar1 · 25/10/2022 19:41

Your sister and husband can either divide their room up, or give their daughter their room and sleep downstairs. No way should your dd give up her room for a year.

Snoken · 25/10/2022 19:41

I’m pretty sure you are also now considered legally overcrowded, especially if your home is where they are registered as residents in. If you want them out just use that as an excuse.

ChantelleSCC · 25/10/2022 19:43

I would continue to lead the life you once did before they moved in. Again you are doing them a favour and they can’t forget that.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 25/10/2022 19:43

I doubt that they’ll leave in eight months as they are CFs

BaronessBomburst · 25/10/2022 19:43

Soubriquet · 25/10/2022 19:39

Course they will refuse.

They will say their need their privacy

That's what I'm expecting too. Sad

Notimeforaname · 25/10/2022 19:44

Theres no way you can do this for another 8 months op.
Where are they going after that year ? How can they know theyll definitely have a council house in one year exactly?

You need to have a sit down conversation and tell them how it is. They have decided to move in with you so should fit around how you already live. Of course you make adjustments for them but you can absolutely eat what you want, when you want.
And if they're so concerned about privacy for their daughter they can give up their room.

Untitledsquatboulder · 25/10/2022 19:44

How big is your dd's room? I would expect my children to share with their cousins before I put a child in the living room. Ideally though I'd find some way of partitioning the space.

Plaidparty · 25/10/2022 19:44

Don’t cause any (more) tension between you and your kids for your sister.

if you made me as a teenager share with someone I didn’t get on with for a year, I would never forgive you. You’ll lose trust and never get it back.

also - I wouldn’t be stopping going out to eat. You are already compromising. you shouldn’t be expected to give up your space and every detail of your life to please everyone.

you are a saint - I don’t think I’d last a week!

Letthekidsplay · 25/10/2022 19:44

Has your sister always been this controlling and dominating? I would stay firm and live your life your way.

dentydown · 25/10/2022 19:45

You need to tell the council you will no longer be accommodating them by X date making them homeless and in need of temporary accommodation.

you can allow your sister to wash her clothes/eat/visit your place during the day , children can use Wi-Fi to do homework but at X time they have to vacate back to the temporary accommodation. They can also store things in the guest room too.

This way you are helping them, you haven’t completely abandoned them but also you get your space and their housing situation will get priority.

viques · 25/10/2022 19:45

tamarvin · 25/10/2022 19:33

@pictish we made an agreement that they can stay for one year. They have been here for 4 months now.

I hope they are making up to you for the loss of your single parent council tax discount.

aSofaNearYou · 25/10/2022 19:47

Your sister is being laughably ungrateful. Of course YANBU.

Sexnotgender · 25/10/2022 19:47

A year!!??? Holy shit you’re off your rocker.

I’d be not so gently reminding them that it’s your home and you’re doing them a ginormous favour and they don’t get to call the shots.

LIZS · 25/10/2022 19:47

tamarvin · 25/10/2022 19:33

@pictish we made an agreement that they can stay for one year. They have been here for 4 months now.

So they are not homeless? What happens after a year if no council property comes up?

tamarvin · 25/10/2022 19:47

@Brokendaughter

I agreed they could stay for a year at most. They've been here for 4 months, so 8 months left.

I am honestly a little worried about Christmas. I didn't think about it before they came to live with us. I've been thinking about us maybe going on a trip to visit my late wife's parents and have my kids open their presents there.

OP posts:
ThatGirlInACountrySong · 25/10/2022 19:48

A year?

How can they guarantee council accommodation?

Clymene · 25/10/2022 19:48

I think I'd have to tell them this isn't working out. Your sister is being really unkind to you when you're doing her a massive favour.

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