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To want a PM who is actually going to address Covid?

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Ticketsto · 23/10/2022 11:55

We all know whoever wins, they will not speak about covid and the havoc it is causing on society still. Cases rising, hospitals bringing back social distancing, deaths going up. Measures such as mask wearing on public transport should have never ended.

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 23/10/2022 14:59

MangyInseam · 23/10/2022 14:02

There are no peer reviewed studies of masking, the way people typically do for covid, that shows it to be effective. Nor do studies of populations show that masking restrictions altered the course of covid when you compare what happened in different places.

That idea was blown out of the water when the droplet model was shown to be inadequate. And really no surprise, that model was already under pressure with things like colds and flu, and with covid there was suddenly so much more intense attention on transmission.

Similarly the studies of barriers show them to be ineffective and even potentially negative if they impede air circulation.

While it's possible to mask for this kind of transmission, it's a whole different ballgame suggesting the population as a whole does it on an ongoing basis, and it also has real downsides in terms of other health effects and QOL.

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Yes, this. Unfortunately too many people fail to understand that a population who are willing and able to wear high quality well fitted masks is not one of the options we are choosing from. Whether they wish it was or not.

MintJulia · 23/10/2022 15:09

Yabu.

you know how to deal with it. Wear a mask if you wish. Isolate if you wish. Take responsibility for you.

The only issue I think now needs dealing with re:covid is sick leave for long covid among care workers.

Livelovebehappy · 23/10/2022 15:09

Nothing that anyone can do unfortunately. We’ve got vaccines. Lockdown and face masks doesn’t eradicate it. We have to live with it and take responsibility for our own health, ie have the boosters. Although having a booster doesn’t stop us getting it, it (apparently) stops us getting badly affected by it. If people don’t want the boosters - their choice. They just have to live with the risks.

Conkersareback · 23/10/2022 15:10

Inbredyokel · 23/10/2022 13:56

The fact that not a single one of you is able to refute or disprove anything I have written, let alone provide any basis for a reasonable argument...and the only thing that you can do is resort to childish name-calling, further reinforces my point of how utterly ill-suited to critical thinking you are.
With your collective (and individual) stupidity, I am amazed that when trying to negotiate the challenges of walking upright by yourselves, more of you don't fall down more often or routinely shit yourselves when faced with the challenge of using a toilet.

If you are a medic, you lack bed side manner. The NHS and it's end clients deserves better treatment.

Honestly reread that post, t's so incredibly rude and demeaning it's untrue.

You do not set the rules and decide that we should abide by them.

GreenWheat · 23/10/2022 15:20

IndigoC · 23/10/2022 12:44

Yeah, who gives a fuck if you infect a CEV person at work, or on your commute, right?

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Pretty much, yes. I think most people, whether they voice it or not, would rather pass it on to someone CEV that they don't know, than sacrifice any more of their children's education or lose their job. We sacrificed an awful lot for the vulnerable and lots of people are quite rightly not prepared to do so indefinitely.

Conkersareback · 23/10/2022 15:29

Topseyt123 · 23/10/2022 14:50

The only measure I am willing to keep following is to have my Covid vaccination booster and flu shots when offered every year. Anyone who wants me to do anything else can go fuck themselves.

Yep!

Aishah231 · 23/10/2022 15:41

I'm wondering when any politician of any party is going to ask for an investigation into rising excess death rates in the under 60s. Bugger all has been said about this despite the fact the figures are much worse than they were for COVID (even of we accept the terrible way they 'measured' deaths with COVID).

millymollymoomoo · 23/10/2022 15:57

cba To read all the thread but you are 100% YADBU!

stip with the covid restriction nonsense

AloysiusBear · 23/10/2022 16:06

I don't see it having any impact at all atm, so Im not sure what a prime minister needs to do.

The actual proportion of people genuinely facing long covid with clinically identifiable impacts is minute once you go past a few weeks post infection.

secretllama · 23/10/2022 17:36

Jourdain11 · 23/10/2022 13:41

I don't know why you're tagging me? I agree. I think the hand-wringing "what about the CEV?" from people who never gave a moment's thought to the CEV pre-Covid is silly at best. And I'm not entirely following why people are still shielding because of Covid now if they weren't doing so pre-Covid. If you have compromised immunity, this impacts your vulnerability to any virus, not just Covid.

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Sorry @Jourdain11 didn't mean to tag you!

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 23/10/2022 17:52

I want a pm who will address the state of the nhs. Currently I'm having an allergic reaction to something and it's breaking out on my face. I had to push to get a telephone appointment and prescribed some cream but rash still hasn't gone away. Endometriosis that looks like I'm on a year long waiting list to get sorted and a painful arm that I got sent to physio without the gp looking at it. I will have to use my work bupa for all three of these problems. And what about people who don't have bupa?

forevercooking · 23/10/2022 18:36

Like 'Dear Covid...'?

reigatecastle · 23/10/2022 18:51

What is weird about the attitude around this is suddenly they are scared about covid, and expect society to behave in a way that people never seemed to before. No one was saying everyone on a bus had to wear a mask to prevent immune compromised people from getting the flu. Or that not doing so meant they wanted to kill people

You're right about flu. But there was a huge amount of hysteria about chicken pox on MN before covid came along.

I'm not entirely following why people are still shielding because of Covid now if they weren't doing so pre-Covid. If you have compromised immunity, this impacts your vulnerability to any virus, not just Covid I never quite understood this, although when covid was an unknown it made sense to stay out of the way of it if you could.

Teder · 23/10/2022 20:52

@reigatecastle

“I'm not entirely following why people are still shielding because of Covid now if they weren't doing so pre-Covid. If you have compromised immunity, this impacts your vulnerability to any virus, not just Covid I never quite understood this, although when covid was an unknown it made sense to stay out of the way of it if you could.”

I am no longer shielding, it would be terrible for my mental health and for my family. But really why do you need to ‘understand’ it? Surely those who are shielding are people who’ve taken medical advice from the professionals who know their own conditions and are experts in it.

I am severely immunocompromised but certain viruses are much riskier to me than others and it’s not for anyone else to ‘understand’ unless they’re genuinely showing care or interest.

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