To want a PM who is actually going to address Covid?

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We all know whoever wins, they will not speak about covid and the havoc it is causing on society still. Cases rising, hospitals bringing back social distancing, deaths going up. Measures such as mask wearing on public transport should have never ended.

I assume you’re an anti-vac conspiracy theory nut.

(Whisper: they never gave it a moment's thought)

Covid is 8-10x more lethal than flu. For what it’s worth I have always stayed home and tried my best to avoid infecting others when ill.

The Omicron was shown to be too infectious that masks were ineffective.

Vaccinations and treatments are the way to go. I've heard quite a lot of people over seventy say that they aren't getting anymore vaccinations and we can't lock down society to protect them. We never expected Africa/Pakistan etc to lock down to prevent deaths, we expect them to accept death from disease, Ill health etc and keep going, because it's financially unviable not to. We have a new transmittable disease and need to do the same. When I worked in elderly care every Residential home would expect to lose around a third of its residents between November-March. We can't be alarmed just by the figures. I do question not having to isolate though.

I feel like (just my opinion, not fact) that covid has been a useful deflection on how criminally underfunded and staffed (on the ground, not the middle management/management) public services have become.

Would hospitals etc be so short staffed if they had a decent amount of staff to begin with? But they can just blame it on covid and do nothing about it it seems.

Address it how, there's nothing to address. Just like flu you can catch it and most recover fully

It will certainly be interesting and rather sobering when the cases of early-onset Parkinson's disease and other neurological conditions expected to follow the Covid-19 pandemic, as they did in the five or so years after the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, start to appear...

This would not be top of my list of what I want to see sorted out in this country, not sure it would even make the list to be honest.

Who are you referring to?

Let's worry about that if and when it happens?

I've stopped having boosters now and will never wear a mask again outside of a medical setting

I think it's the job of the health secretary and hopefully TC will be replaced.

I don't agree that compulsory measures should return.

However there seems to have been a complete lack of public health information or guidance since all restrictions ended. Like it or not, covid is causing problems to an already creaking NHS. Covid is thankfully not the danger it was pre-vaccine but it's still bad enough to cause high levels of sick absences in all industries and that should be recognised.

There must be a middle ground.

For disclosure I am extremely vulnerable and was very ill with covid first time round. Second time after 5 vaccines it was a bad cold. Enough to need a week off work but not hospital. I would never expect others to change their lives for my benefit but there is a huge cost to the economy which should at least be acknowledged.

Regardless I don't think any government in the U.K. will bring back measures beyond individual health trusts being able to have masks etc in their medical settings. That's already happening in many trusts. Where I am they reintroduced masks in hospitals and doctors surgeries a while back.

I do think they should be looking more into the preventative evushield treatment for very CEV people. This would give those people better protection to allow them to be out and about more.

I'm vulnerable to covid and diagnosed with long covid, though it's improved greatly over the past year. I still have a long term health condition as a result of my first bout, but I'll have that for life now. Nothing I can do about it bar taking the medication.

I've had my vaccines and now on the annual booster programme. I test if I'm feeling I'll as I'm eligible for treatment but it needs to be taken before the virus has time to take hold. I did that last time and I think it did help.

I work in a school so there is no way to avoid it. I don't want to give up my job so I know I'm probably in contact finely regular. I choose to travel on planes and holiday around the world. I know it's always a risk but happy to take that risk as it's an important part of our life. I still go out to bars and restaurants etc and see family and friends happily.

We followed the rules at the time when they were in place but life is happier and easier now they've mostly gone. We've been happy to follow the rules in other countries too - so wore masks in Malaysia, had tests for the UAE, etc

But I don't think the majority of people would listen to the government on new restrictions here. Why would they? The government did t follow them last time so they've lost any remaining support tbh in that front.

Covid will never go away.
It's not the same as flu but has to now be treated in a similar matter to flu and other viruses in terms of guidelines.

Sadly CEV people will also need to learn ti love with it being around, taking their own protections where they can.

YANBU

Yawn. Covid has been addressed as much as it possibly can be. Now it’s time to get on with life and recover from the social and economic turmoil it caused.

@Untitledsquatboulder the NHS is not going under because of covid. It's going under because of cuts imposed by the government.

@Jourdain11
@secretllama
I wasn't in danger of death or serious illness from flu and always had my vaccination. After every bout of Covid I get antibody treatment and still need a long course of antibiotics. Even in younger people, lung function drops. If you are due surgery, hospitals are finding that previous day cases now need overnight/days stay. We didn't have DNRs for young people who have LD's during flu season. Many CEV wasn't CEV from flu. Covid isn't flu.

Now it’s time to get on with life and recover from the social and economic turmoil it caused.

Many of my friends and colleagues would like to do that but they are too busy recovering from long covid or other effects of covid or traumatised from the deaths of loved ones.

Helpmewithteen · Today 13:08
MrsSkylerWhite · Today 13:05
I assume you’re an anti-vac conspiracy theory nut.

“Who are you referring to?”

sorry, was replying to telltheoldmandowntheroad

Really?! Christ, they really did a good job of brainwashing people.

Covid is reducing. I didn't agree with first, non voluntary lockdowns. If some individuals are concerned about covid there is nothing to stop them from wearing a mask, limiting social contacts and shopping via the Internet. On the whole we need to get back to work and get on with life.

Too many people think flu is a minor illness. It is not; it incapacitates and leads to death and ME type illnesses just as Covid does. We have never locked down for flu. I'd fully support an education programme that sets out the significant differences between influenza and a cold so people stop referring to the common cold as flu.

@Ponoka7 @Jourdain11 but other CEV are at risk of death if they got flu. But was that always ok then? Why does it matter that its covid and not flu though, in terms of bringing in restrictions? I didn't say they were same. Just the fact that both could potentially kill someone vulnerable. So I don't understand why there's a moral high ground of duty to protect with one and not the other.

Oh, then like me he may just feel that as the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission and as I’ve already have covid twice, both times extremely mildly, having the vaccine is simply unnecessary.

No need for conspiracies…just good old fashioned logic.

Nice bit of lighting the touch paper there, OP.

It's impossible to say if YABU without knowing what you mean, quite honestly. If it's wanting us all to go back into lockdown, then yes you are. If it's wanting more funding for the NHS and someone to acknowledge this is causing them a huge issue still, then no you're not.

Bore off OP. Interesting that you made this thread and then buggered off. Just wanting to poke the hornets nest and get a vicarious thrill from the reaction.
FWIW, I followed restrictions when they were mandatory and had all my jabs, soon to get my 4th. Hated masks & really not bothered about Covid anymore. Just want to live my life and enjoy it.

Helpmewithteen

“Who are you referring to?”

sorry, was replying to telltheoldmandowntheroad

“Oh, then like me he may just feel that as the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission and as I’ve already have covid twice, both times extremely mildly, having the vaccine is simply unnecessary.
No need for conspiracies…just good old fashioned logic.”

I don’t believe it was ever claimed that the vaccines would prevent transmission. It was claimed that they would significantly reduce symptoms, which they do.

There is nothing that doesn’t “add up”.