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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
Goodadvice1980 · 19/10/2022 14:30

YANBU. Set your firm boundaries on this waster now!

Bunce1 · 19/10/2022 14:31

You are right. But tread carefully here as you might force your Dd out of her home and into the arms of this zero of a man.

RagzRebooted · 19/10/2022 14:31

YANBU and it is refreshing to see a post where the OP already has sensible boundaries and has made their points early on. Seriously, kudos! You are 100% in the right.
Also, this isn't going to end well, as I'm sure you know, so try not to fall out with DD as she will not end up in a good place if she moves out with the potential cocklodger.

Badgirlriri · 19/10/2022 14:33

YANBU, I wouldn’t allow it either but I think the abduction part is a tad dramatic

GaladrielHiggins · 19/10/2022 14:36

He is obviously looking for someone to make his life easier for him, a classic cocklodger. Of course, your DD won’t believe that if you try to tell her so all you can do is keep him out of your house as much as possible and hope he slopes off after an easier target.

pantsville · 19/10/2022 14:38

I’m not sure it’s really an abduction. If you frame it like that to your DD, you might look hysterical, and as PP have pointed out, you don’t want to push her away and towards this deadbeat. That said, I have no idea the legal conditions of his contact so I accept I could be missing something.

Everything else though, I fully agree - I wouldn’t want this man working his way into my household either.

ChocFrog · 19/10/2022 14:39

J is bad news.

Ban J from your house. You don’t have to put up with this and you don’t have to be polite about it either. Your DD needs a reality check, not indulgently pretending this relationship is ok.

Tell your DD that she may like him, and that is up to her, but you dislike him, and that is up to you. Say that in your eyes he’s a creep: he’s sleeping with a teenager 5 years younger than himself, he’s already got a child but refuses to get a full time job to support that child, and negligently left that child in the care of an unfamiliar teenager in an unfamiliar house, without the permission of either the child’s mother or the house’s owner.

Tell DD that you can see she is making a mistake by being in a relationship with him and you strongly recommend she break up with him. You can’t insist she do so but you can ban someone you don’t trust or like from your house and from now on he is banned. Not allowed in over the threshold. If be doesn’t like that, he can a job and rent his own home.

BlueKaftan · 19/10/2022 14:39

Make sure your DD is on birth control. Can you arrange some nice days out for her that don’t involve the cocklodger?

Ponderingwindow · 19/10/2022 14:39

You shouldn’t be letting this man stay in your house at all. Your teenager is in a 2 month long relationship with a man who has 5 years more life experience, a child, and no work ethic. you may not be able to forbid the relationship, but you shouldn’t be making him coffee in the morning.

AffIt · 19/10/2022 14:39

ChocFrog · 19/10/2022 14:39

J is bad news.

Ban J from your house. You don’t have to put up with this and you don’t have to be polite about it either. Your DD needs a reality check, not indulgently pretending this relationship is ok.

Tell your DD that she may like him, and that is up to her, but you dislike him, and that is up to you. Say that in your eyes he’s a creep: he’s sleeping with a teenager 5 years younger than himself, he’s already got a child but refuses to get a full time job to support that child, and negligently left that child in the care of an unfamiliar teenager in an unfamiliar house, without the permission of either the child’s mother or the house’s owner.

Tell DD that you can see she is making a mistake by being in a relationship with him and you strongly recommend she break up with him. You can’t insist she do so but you can ban someone you don’t trust or like from your house and from now on he is banned. Not allowed in over the threshold. If be doesn’t like that, he can a job and rent his own home.

All of this.

PurplRainDancer · 19/10/2022 14:40

I wouldn’t allow a 22 year old to stay over with my daughter.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:40

Yes, he is a cocklodger. I sussed him out straight away and can’t stand him using my daughter like his. I have spoken to DD about contraception because I’m worried he will attempt to get her pregnant as an ‘in’ for living with us. I don’t like him nor trust him one bit. He has distracted my DD from her studies. My DD thinks that his ex is an evil witch who gets a kick out of keeping a devoted father from his beloved child, and I’m not convinced. I believe he has used drugs in the past.

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upanddownandupanddown · 19/10/2022 14:40

Sorry. I couldn’t get past the fact you said he can’t work more then 15 hours a week because of his ‘mental health’. I can only
work three days a week because of my mental health; mental health problems are real and can be really limiting to someone’s life. So for that, YABU.

bigblueyonder · 19/10/2022 14:41

Good for you. Sounds like J has not even made an effort to be civil and clearly has zero respect for anyone.

Carry on with what you are doing, don't be tempted to make life easy for them and be prepared for when the request to move in comes along. Might be worth even making that clear now to DD quietly, so she does not get her hopes up, and just pray she does not become pregnant. Because that could be J's next tactic (says the cynic in me).

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:43

@upanddownandupanddown.

I was expecting this response, but I stand by what I said.

He won’t see a doctor, apparently. He doesn’t believe in antidepressants. He has never held down a job for more than a few months. I believe his MH problems are genuine but at the end of the day he is going to be homeless and would rather take advantage of a naive teenager for free accommodation than seek help for his depression so he can support himself.

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RebeccaRose92 · 19/10/2022 14:43

I was with someone like this when I was 16. He turned abusive quick.

summergone · 19/10/2022 14:43

Why are you allowing him to stay over at all ! They have been together 8 weeks ! I'm a pretty laid back parent but I wouldn't allow that , way too soon . Plus he is a lazy arse

mrswhiplington · 19/10/2022 14:43

You had me at getting takeaways in the middle of the night, waking you up. He wouldn't have got any further into my household after that.

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GreenManalishi · 19/10/2022 14:44

He sounds like a nightmare on wheels, and hopefully your DD will catch on soon enough. Go with your gut and show her a good example of how to deal with situations like this.

Deep down she might be seretly hoping for someone to step in, she definitely sounds out of her depth. He would not be welcome in my house.

TeaAndJaffacakes · 19/10/2022 14:44

upanddownandupanddown · 19/10/2022 14:40

Sorry. I couldn’t get past the fact you said he can’t work more then 15 hours a week because of his ‘mental health’. I can only
work three days a week because of my mental health; mental health problems are real and can be really limiting to someone’s life. So for that, YABU.

This is true, but in my opinion it also rules him out as a good potential partner for OP’s daughter. Without wanting to sound materialistic, being financially solvent, responsible and stable is an important trait in a partner.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:44

Just because he has MH problems, it doesn’t mean he is owed free accommodation. He is an adult man.

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Untitledsquatboulder · 19/10/2022 14:45

Your problem is not this child, your problem is your dd's choice of boyfriend. Agree with a pp, please don't alienate your dd, she'll need to be able to ditch him without losing face.

Boomboom22 · 19/10/2022 14:45

Also yes he might have mh issues and a terrible childhood, in fact this makes for not good parenting or relationship material. And he won't earn enough to grow up. She needs to leave this one.

MissBattleaxe · 19/10/2022 14:45

J is an arsehole who is trying to move in by stealth. You are doing everything right OP. Ban him from the house and if he wants a better life he can work more hours. I hope your DD has some good contraception.

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