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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
Darkstar4855 · 22/10/2022 20:00

I doubt the threat of never seeing his child would have any impact. I suspect his only interest in his child is as a prop to play “Disney Dad” and lure in unsuspecting young girls by playing the doting-but-unfairly-treated father role.

NewBootsAndRanty · 22/10/2022 20:00

I'd be getting her to book an STI check, given he doesn't like condoms but does like shagging about.

Seaweed42 · 22/10/2022 20:02

Regardless of your DH's issues, he needs to step in as well.
He's 50% responsible for parenting your daughter.

"DH isn’t doing too well."
He's not a baby though. He's a grown man. He's not a child that needs mothering.

Has your daughter has found an emotionally weak, needy man to 'mother'.

www.verywellmind.com/what-is-codependency-5072124

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 20:02

I have finally completely banned him from the house but now there’s a new set of issues

OP posts:
Scottishskifun · 22/10/2022 20:02

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 19:46

But in short, he wants things to carry on as they are and continue benefiting from DD and our home but expects to still be able to shag other girls and DD be okay with it.

Please please please sit your daughter down and explain to her she deserves to be treated with respect, for someone to want to be with her and only her, to have dates, romance and loyalty. She is never going to get that with him and he has made that clear.
You understand this hurts but she deserves so much more then he will ever offer her which he has shown by saying they are close friends. That you understand that her heart is aching but it will pass and she will find someone who treats her with all of the above and loves her for her and isnt using her for sex and trying to get a roof over his head. Again use your friend as the example he has shown he is no different.

Go for a girls weekend somewhere so she can have a break etc

Sennelier1 · 22/10/2022 20:03

".....help him out with getting access to the child "🤔🤔🤔 is the child's mother demanding he has a responsible (female) person with him when the child is with him? If so, is your DD his ticket to seeing his child? Or is she helping him with child support money out from her allowance and/or what you give her? Please, check this out! This would be a severe abuse of trust.

DeadButDelicious · 22/10/2022 20:04

Oh this guy is weapons grade cheeky fucker OP. Time to show her what a good time she can have without him, if the Australia trip is a serious option I would make it happen. A bit of distance in a sunny country, having fun with her cousins should take her mind of playing step mum in dreary old England.

Badger1970 · 22/10/2022 20:05

It sounds like he's realised that he's come to a dead end and won't be moving in with her. So he's hedging his bets and looking for another woman to cocklodge with. Which is good news for you.

It's really good she's confiding in you. I'd use the excuse now that he can't stay over as it's a casual relationship and it's too disruptive when he can't respect your kitchen rules. He'll hopefully move on as he's not getting his feet under the table.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/10/2022 20:07

Worrying updates OP. If she was an adult we'd be recommending Lundy Bancroft and other resources about abusive gaslighting men. She deserves so much better than this.

As parents we all understand the dilemmas of supporting teenagers making disastrous mistakes.
Maybe it's worth you deciding on a couple of clear messages to her - there's so much going on that it must be hard to decide what to focus on?

So her self respect? Not getting pregnant? Wanting her to have a relationship with a man who will love her and commit not someone who uses her in this way?

PinkFrogss · 22/10/2022 20:08

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 20:02

I have finally completely banned him from the house but now there’s a new set of issues

Oh no OP what’s happened now?

I would treat DD like she’s been through a break up, and remind her she’ll meet many new friends and people she might fancy at uni. Get her to focus on the future not the current

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 20:08

@Badger1970 Yes it is good for me and I expect he’ll drop my DD as soon as another prospect comes along but he’s got her on the backburner and she’s still very much ‘in love’ with him and wants to be around him 24/7 so even though he’s banned from the house my DD is now letting him destroy her head so I’m concerned as to what lengths she’ll go to to prove she’s ‘worthy’ of a relationship with him. A baby, giving him money etc etc 😥

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Jewel7 · 22/10/2022 20:08

I remember having a boyfriend my dad didn’t like. I didn’t like him much either. My dad kicked off so I stayed with him a bit longer just to annoy him. Plus I didn’t like being told what to do. I look back and cringe. She needs to figure this out. You need to try and calm down the more you lay the law down the less time she will spend at home. The boyfriend as annoying as it is is around for now. If he is at your house make rules he eats dinner with you all. Then he will need to converse. Plus cancel the staying over as much as you can. Underneath it all he is a person who may have had a crap upbringing. Hence his choices and behaviours. The last thing you want is to push your daughter away and she follows his path. But maybe he knows you don’t like him and just needs a chance. Hard I know.

MemorableName · 22/10/2022 20:09

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 19:42

I am also now even more concerned that DD will attempt to get pregnant so he will be with her, I feel sick.

Despite this changing from BF to dating it actually makes difference to the priorities, but does increase the risk and the urgency of action.
Again stick to the knowns and don’t catastophise the unknowns. She’s having unprotected sex with him, she is forgetful about her pill, they are not in an exclusive relationship, he will be having unprotected sex elsewhere whenever possible.

Her health remains number 1 - go with her to get full STD screening and long term contraception. Not as a punishment, as a mother daughter thing. It’s a normal part of being in an adult sexual relationship, make it seem as normal and non anxiety provoking as possible.

Don’t worry about her heartache . Everyone gets heartbroken at 17. Not everyone gets HIV , gonorrhea or pregnant.

Monday morning . Find a well woman clinic.

I stand by every word of my long post a few pages back. Read it. Relax with a cuppa , a pen and paper , and read it again make notes.

Soubriquet · 22/10/2022 20:10

Yeah she needs an STD check pronto. If he’s sleeping with other women and refusing to wear a condom, there’s a chance she could get something.

DoYouWantDecking · 22/10/2022 20:10

You are running out of thread OP

But do you think you could go see the mother of the child with your DD and get her to explain what a cock he is?

PinkFrogss · 22/10/2022 20:11

I also think as you previously had progress with comparisons to friends relationships you should continue with that.

e.g. How do you think friend would react if friends boyfriend said what he has, do you think friends boyfriend would do that etc etc

DoYouWantDecking · 22/10/2022 20:11

Also, I am so, so so sorry for the stress of this for you.

Thisisnotmyname2 · 22/10/2022 20:11

Take her for an STI test. She needs one and the experience in itself may wake her up to how horrible he is.

Carlycat · 22/10/2022 20:12

Send the twat over to me. He'll be wearing his bollocks as a bow tie

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 22/10/2022 20:15

Well she needs to go on an adventure in Australia and forget about this fucking loser

beastlyslumber · 22/10/2022 20:17

Agree with pp she needs to be checked for stds. Poor girl. It's good she is confiding in you, OP. He sounds very calculating and knows that by withdrawing from your DD he will be driving her insane and strengthening his hold over her. Could you maybe advise her to "play hard to get" - maybe look at Matthew Hussey videos on YouTube with her and talk about what her behaviour should be to get what she thinks she wants. I know it sounds counter intuitive but I'm thinking that focusing on building her self esteem and self respect will allow her to genuinely realise her own worth.

MemorableName · 22/10/2022 20:22

crostina1 · 22/10/2022 19:51

He wants the benefit of getting to stay here when kicked out and sex that a relationship would potentially provide but without the annoying bits, (getting to know the family etc). So he calls it a ‘close friendship’. But waves the idea of a relationship in her face so she won’t sack him off He’s a fucking pig.

It’s irrelevant that you think he’s a pig. Your daughter is 17 and in love.
You cannot control that , and shouldn’t try unless you wish to lose her. Wasting emotional effort on all this crap you cannot control and is actually not relevant is pointless and actually increases the risk of all the bad outcomes you are concerned about. Don’t spend time with her discussing the ins an outs of her love life.

What you can control is who comes into your house and when. Do it FFS . How can he think will move in if you don’t let him stay overnight? You don’t need to worry about what his accommodation hopes are, he isn’t your kid.

No overnight guests , not just him (don’t make him a martyr). Simple rule. No overnight guests, at all. The girl needs to get back to concentrating on her studies, whether this 22 yr old was a medical student or a hobo it’s a huge distraction, a risk to her health, and has only been a few weeks.

AcrossthePond55 · 22/10/2022 20:22

I think it's time to really push for the Aus trip. Not blatantly, but perhaps in a 'well, this has been hard on you, would you like to go visit family in Aus to have a break and a breather?' sort of way.

You are right to absolutely ban him from the house. Do you think DD has actually told him he's banned? If she's clinging on, she may have left him with the impression that it's only 'temporary' or made other excuses to him.

MemorableName · 22/10/2022 20:25

Meagainalready · 22/10/2022 18:37

Think OP has had enough of this thread….

I kind of hope so . Most of the advice is some of the most ridiculous shit I’ve ever read, (and I damn well hope she has ignores it) and I’ve read AIBU for many years!!

Caelan2018 · 22/10/2022 20:28

Omg I really feel sorry for you I'm that horrible situation. You need to get her as far away from him as possible we all know what it is like to be 17 and think we love someone and now when we are grown up married with our own kids we realise it wasn't love at all I hope to God you get her gar away from him when you get her to see sense change her phone number or block him. How dare he treat anyone like that go's love the ex who is the mother of his child

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