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AIBU?

for not getting rid of dogs when niece is allergic?

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dogsdander · 12/09/2022 15:20

My husband and I don't have to work that many hours and when we do they're from home so it puts us in a good position to help our siblings and watch their kids. My husband has 1 sister with 2 children. I have a brother, with 2 children. A sister with 3 children. I also have a younger half brother with 1 child. My husband and I also have a son. So 9 kids all together between the ages 4-12. They’re usually not here all at the same time, but they all do come over often. Sort of a mix and match depending on various schedules. They all seem to have a fun time (in their words we have the “fun house”) and our son loves to socialize with his cousins.

Almost half a year ago we got two dogs. All the kids were very excited and have enjoyed playing with them. Unfortunately we found out that my one niece (Gemma) is allergic to dogs. She’s never been around a dog much before so neither she nor her parents knew about the allergy. It is not just a mild allergy either. She doesn’t just get sniffles she actually started wheezing and had trouble breathing.

We have tried to do things to minimize allergens in our home. However it is very difficult because of our home is fully carpeted. Regular vacuuming did nothing. We got an air purifier and steam cleaned our carpets before she came over one time and kept the dogs outside for the day and it worked, but of course after a day the dog dander had gotten everywhere and we were back to square one. We decided this wasn’t a viable option to do on a regular basis because of the cost and the increased amount of wear and tear. It also leaves the majority of our house unusable while we waited for the carpet to dry.

My brother and sil (Gemma’s parents) have taken her to the doctor to try different medications to help with her allergies. The problem is Gemma already takes medication for a different medical issue and it interferes with a lot of allergy medicines. They’ve tried some other things suggested by her doctor, but nothing really helps.

My brother has asked that we get rid of our dogs because Gemma had a fit the other day. She’s upset that she hasn’t been able to come over to the “fun house” and play with her cousins all these months while they still come over all the time. My brother thinks that we are causing her to feel left out by not getting rid of the dogs.

I understand how unfair it must feel for Gemma, but neither me or my husband or son want to get rid of our dogs. They’re part of the family now. We have become very attached to them. Especially our son. He would cry his eyes out if they had to be given up.

It’s not like we can stop watching the other kids to make Gemma feel less excluded either. Our siblings don’t have it as easy as us and they need the help sometimes.

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moonypadfootprongs · 12/09/2022 15:46

It's not fair that she's got allergies that prevent her from coming around but sadly life isn't fair.

She (and her parents) either need to learn to manage her allergies (if possible) so she can join in or I'm afraid she will have to miss out. Just like she will have to miss out on other things too.

You need to put your families happiness first. That includes your dogs.

Perhaps you could try changing to hard floors downstairs (if you can afford to) and removing soft furnishings that have been around with the dogs. If you then were able to send the dogs to a dog sitter for the day and throughly clean before she came?

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REP22 · 12/09/2022 15:46

Absolutely agree with others. Please don't rehome your dogs. It's not fair on them and it would break your son's heart. It also probably won't help his future relationship with (the also blameless) Gemma either.

This is also not your fault. You didn't get these dogs knowing about Gemma's allergy. Your brother's request is not reasonable, as hard as it is for Gemma.

I'm sorry. I can't think what to suggest. An outdoor space/summer house might be a partial suggestion but I realise that isn't a realistic or financial option for most of us.

Best wishes to you. x

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Pixiedust1234 · 12/09/2022 15:47

I agree with others. If you can get rid of the carpets downstairs, etc but how often do you wash the dogs? Get them to the groomers at least once a month as that will help with the dander etc.

Don't get rid of the dogs though.

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Ponoka7 · 12/09/2022 15:47

You are always going to have to exclude Gemma. She's missing out on a lot. She is in effect being separated from the rest of the cousins. This is going to last all of her childhood. I wouldn't want to cause hurt to a child in my close family. So it's either re-home the dogs, or plan things out well so she isn't missing out.

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Mariposista · 12/09/2022 15:49

What a disgusting request. Of course you can’t get rid of the dogs. It is up to them to manage their daughter’s allergy.

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spiderlight · 12/09/2022 15:50

Petal Cleanse has worked for a couple of friends of mine. One who was severely allergic to cats now has three, and another who was allergic to dogs is living with one with no problems. It's worth a try.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 12/09/2022 15:52

You do a lot for your siblings, nieces and nephews. On paper you would think they'd be grateful, but it's very common for gratitude to morph into entitlement. This is why your brother no longer feels gratitude for all the past times you have cared for Gemma, but does feel entitlement to future times when you would again care for Gemma.

I would refuse to re-home my dogs. They are sentient creatures with whom you have formed a mutual bond. It would not only be cruel to the dogs, it would be cruel to you, DH and DC. It was extremely unfair (and entitled!) of your brother to ask this of you.

It sucks for Gemma. But it's not your fault she's allergic to dogs, and it's not your responsibility to provide her with a dog-free place to visit. (Not - visit, not live.) Her parents will need to get their fingers out and provide 'fun' for her instead of endlessly delegating this to you.

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whynotwhatknot · 12/09/2022 15:52

sorry but you were doing them a favour having her over youd dont owe them more than that

im sorry for the kid but no dont getg rid of your dogs

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TiddleyWink · 12/09/2022 15:53

Of course you’re not going to get rid of your pets but honestly, I loathe dogs and find it really sad when real human people miss out on family stuff because they either can’t or don’t want to be around dogs. My kids barely see their uncle and cousins now because they got a massive dog which they have failed to train or exercise so it’s jumping all over the place and my kids are terrified of it. It’s already injured their child by knocking it over and I’m not prepared to risk that or worse for my kids. They refuse to go anywhere and leave the dog because it’s FAMILY. Upshot is, there is now almost zero relationship between their family and ours. Because of a fucking dog!

So I don’t know what the answer is. You’ve chosen to have dogs and are continuing to choose them, which is fine and your prerogative but I’m amazed that more people who bring animals to live in their homes don’t stop and consider the impacts on their human relationships. Your niece will miss out hugely and be marginalised within the cousin group and that’s heartbreaking for her. If I was one of your other siblings I would be dialling back my kids visits to your house to change the status quo because I just couldn’t bear to see a child pushed out in favour of dogs, but that’s just me.

As you can tell, I’m not a dog person so I appreciate others will see things differently but they’re just bloody everywhere now since lockdown and it sometimes feels like they’re taking over! You hear stuff like this all the time 😢

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dogsdander · 12/09/2022 15:53

@MrsWooster we've looked into the floors, but it costs a lot.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 12/09/2022 15:53

"(Not - visit, not live.)" should have read "(Note - visit, not live.)"

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Nonews · 12/09/2022 15:55

I would get rid of the dogs. I think the human family is more important.

She clearly has a severe allergy. She’s been excluded from your home and time with family at your home due to a medical condition. I would get rid of the dogs to ensure she is as included as other members of the family.

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BabyJellyShark · 12/09/2022 15:57

YANBU. Pets are not disposable and it disgusts me that so many think that they are.

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DisforDarkChocolate · 12/09/2022 15:57

I wouldn't get rid of the dogs either. I have a cat allergy like your nieces dog allergy and I make the accommodations no one else.

However, I would happily replace carpets with hard floors and increase my cleaning if I could afford too. It makes a big difference for my asthmatic husband.

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iwannascream · 12/09/2022 15:57

Your niece's parents could always turn their house into the "fun house" and have all the cousins round there, so that your niece doesn't feel left out.

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Roselilly36 · 12/09/2022 15:58

YANBU of course you should keep the dogs. A vet we used many years ago was very allergic to cats, he was a brilliant vet too, what a occupational hazard for him!

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TiddleyWink · 12/09/2022 16:00

iwannascream · 12/09/2022 15:57

Your niece's parents could always turn their house into the "fun house" and have all the cousins round there, so that your niece doesn't feel left out.

This is highly likely to happen. The OP’s son is an only child and the value of close cousin relationships is far greater to him than it is to them. I wonder how the OP would feel in that situation? Everyone is assuming that the siblings are just desperate for few childcare but there’s nothing to say they don’t all just love their kids having a great time together. Given the choice between moving that to a different house/having outings instead or watching one child be excluded and devastated I know which I would choose.

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ihatespeed · 12/09/2022 16:00

I am indifferent towards dogs, but I still think that if you and your husband enjoy your dog it's a completely unreasonable request to rehome him.
I would however try and dial back a bit on the amount of time the cousins socialise at your home, not completely obviously but not so much that you are effectively excluding one cousin from her family.

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REP22 · 12/09/2022 16:01

I meant to also say that even if you DID rehome the dogs it might not help anyway, at least not for a long while. Dog hair lingers on clothes and furniture, even if unseen. My brother is very allergic and his wheezing/streaming eyes would start if he was in a room where a dog had recently been, even if it was no longer present.

It would be particularly galling to have acceded to his request, given up the dogs you love, only to find that Gemma's allergies were still triggered anyway.

This really is your brother's issue to solve, not yours.

Again, best wishes to you. x

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/09/2022 16:01

Direct him to Google. Suggest he starts with searching Childminder (his town) and go from there.

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PutinIsAWarCriminal · 12/09/2022 16:02

My kids barely see their uncle and cousins now because they got a massive dog which they have failed to train or exercise so it’s jumping all over the place and my kids are terrified of it. It’s already injured their child by knocking it over and I’m not prepared to risk that or worse for my kids that's quite an extreme situation, I don't think anyone sane would allow their children at the home under these circumstances.
Can't they play in a gazebo outside op?

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Figgygal · 12/09/2022 16:02

Absolutely no way should you and theyre ridiculous for even suggesting it
They should host more if theyre bothered about her missing out

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AlwaysGinPlease · 12/09/2022 16:02

They're batshit crazy to ask you. Tell them to have her adopted...see how they react because that's what they're expecting you to do!

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Bluetrews25 · 12/09/2022 16:02

Can they get (do they exist?) a child size FFP3 mask and visor?
If it stops covid it will stop dog dander.
Or wait until she grows big enough for them to fit.....

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Bluetrews25 · 12/09/2022 16:03

Just googled, and they are available for sale.
Just sayin'

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