To think it's acceptable for my DN to wear a body suit with no Bra?

[Sunshineandrainbow]

I would like some perspective on this please. Niece is 17 wearing an all in one body suit with no Bra on holiday, bra size is 30 a/b. Occasionlly you could see nipple through top.
Is it acceptable for family member to tell her to put a top on over bodysuit to cover up?

I've never worn a bra in my entire life (except for those rare "sexy lingerie" special occasions). Who cares. I've worked a million jobs, held respected senior positions, literally never worn a bra under my clothes ever.

I'm an AA but my mum was a K cup and sometimes went braless.

Adult woman has nipple, shock horror! She's on holiday, she's not working in an office. It's a dark colour. Really is not an issue.

She is 16 and yesterday almost caused a crash in road when out walking (we were attempting to leave our driveway). A guy in his landscaping truck was so busy looking at her chest that he almost swung into us, he was completely oblivious of the fact that my other half was shouting at him.

You've misspelled "Yesterday a sick pervert almost caused a truck crash because he was craning his head to ogle school children when his eyes should have been on the road."

If he'd been doing his job then his eyes would have been on the road and he wouldn't have even noticed that there was a schoolgirl on the pavement. He was clearly staring at her intently and putting a lot of focus and concentration into ogling the child, which is sick and vile.

LMAO!

I find the obsession with pretending women don't have nipples very weird when men seem to walk around shirtless most of the time.

Just so bored of the internalised misogyny from some women.

It is absolutely fine to be able to see the shape of her nipples through her top. I've had this through a bra and top in a office because of cold air conditioning and anyone commenting on this would get a proper gob full from me. Funny enough no one did because most people are grown ups.

This thread just doesn’t seem “right” to me.

i would be so upset to know my sister had started a thread about the appropriateness of my DD’s choice of clothing whilst we were all on holiday together. Irrespective of whether she thought appropriate or not, it would hurt that she thought to start a thread discussing my teen dd

I’m imagining the family out for lunch on holiday, the OP beavering away on her phone discussing her DN, who sits opposite her. Just seems really bloody disrespectful

If it really bothered a family member, maybe they should buy the niece or give her vouchers for those stores where the bodysuits come with chest padding. They're really popular among some young adults I know because as others said, going braless in more popular. Otherwise, they can keep their thoughts to themselves and remember what teens were wearing when they were that age.

So you WOULD be okay with your Mum/daughter doing what I described?? Yes??

My mother can do whatever the fuck she wants, I don't care. I saw her - and my father - topless often as a kid. Topless sunbathing was very popular and yes, done in the yard. I thought the Midwestern US is known for its prudishness, but apparently we're out there.

I don't allow any of my children, regardless of sex, to go out topless - but child in the OP isn't topless, she's just wearing a dark bodysuit. Comparing that to being topless or in mesh clothes is nonsense.

I see men in tight lycra/spandex all the time at parkrun and on the footpaths around where I am. We had a guy once in the tightest bright neon shorts I've ever seen going up and down the starting section. I think he scared a couple of the dogs. Even in regular wear, a lot of big guys in t-shirts are going to have visible nipples. A small teenager in a dark bodysuit isn't going to be more noticeable than that unless you're really looking.

It is not about ''body shaming'' to say that if you choose clothing that clearly show the outline of your nipples you are potentially going to attract some unwanted attention and you will not exactly look stylish and classy...

I got far more unwanted attention being covered head to toe with just my face and hands visible than I do now in a tanktop where my nipples outline might be visible if you're really looking. That unwanted attention wasn't my fault just like any unwanted attention this girl gets wouldn't be her fault.

I don't think anyone in a bodysuit is going for classy, nor do I think that's a common teen priority on holiday. Different clothes for different contexts.

I hope the family member who wanted to tell her to cover up is happy to have his or her outfit suitably vetted.

The op doesn’t clarify who the family member is

It could well be the op

I think it is

@TortugaRumCakeQueen my mum went topless on many holidays and would then just pop a t shirt or vest over to go for lunch, I had no problem with it. And her boobs were far larger than the teen mentioned in the OP.

My daughters are currently a toddler and a baby but if they get to 17 and feel comfortable in a body suit without a bra underneath, that is none of my business. If they also felt comfortable being topless, I would have no issue with that either.

Boobs and nipples are just that, to me, whether on a man or woman! In fact, many men I've seen on holiday could probably do with the support from a bra occasionally, but that's a whole other situation.
People have way too many hang ups about boobs and nipples!

Unless a topless woman comes and rubs them in my face, she can do what the hell she likes with her own boobs!

I am done with being embarrassed about my body, I used to wear boned, padded bras, which stopped my breasts from moving seductively under my clothes, but my nipples still stood out like chapel hat pegs. Now my well endowed but still shapely busom is clothed in a stretchy crop top, which is so comfortable. If a random pervert gets off on looking at a 71year olds tits, good luck to them! I wish I had been as free at 17.(well I was when not at work!

Ahh...I'm just thinking back to the days when I was 17 and could wear a bodysuit without a bra on.
Halcyon days.

Absolutely not. If she is comfortable without a bra, great. Utterly sexist to tell her to 'cover up'- that contributes to the shaming of female bodies.

But it’s not about body shaming or being embarrassed, or women not allowed to show off their body it’s about the fact perverts will get off on it. That’s what bothers me. I’m currently not wearing a bra and it’s incredibly liberating! So I’m all for it. I am 42 however, if I had a 17 year old DD doing the same I’d be concerned sickos would be ogling her.

Urgh. This is the same as the argument I once saw a deputy head give to girls about not wearing short skirts- her argument was what if the boys upskirt you (take photos up your skirt) while hire going up the stairs etc.

Women are not, and should not be, responsible for the behaviour of men / perverts / anyone else.

It reminds me of the old myth about the Victorians covering up piano legs in case it turned men on 🙄

Women do not have to wear bras.
Women do not have to hide the fact that they have nipples.

unless her clothing was transparent, there is no issue whatsoever.

I would tell my daughter she might want to consider a bra so pervy men of which there are many won’t get a cheap thrill. Wouldn’t make a huge song and dance about it mind.

I don’t really care if that’s the politically incorrect opinion to be honest. It’s even worse in some countries like Greece where crowds of men stare and gawp at young women.

@bloomety

Yep agreed.

She doesn’t need a bra, when did nipples become offensive?

Why should any woman or girl have to cover their breasts/nipples/outline of nipples etc? The simple answer is - they shouldn't. Womens nipples should be no more of a sexual object than a man's nipples.

But unfortunately breasts and nipples are sexualised and, for purely safety measures, I would not want my daughter or niece having her breasts or nipples showing in a way that anyone could perceive as sexual in any way. I wouldn't want her in a position of someone maybe making a sexual comment or staring at her nipple, or worst case making some kind of pass at her.

The reality is there are sinister and perverted people everywhere and they will sexualise children/teens.

Why does it matter if it's transparent if women don't need to hide the fact they have nipples?

What the fuck is this thread? Its weird from the first page.

And no, when we are subjected to fucking moobs all over the place as soon as the sun pokes out, I don't think a young woman in a dark opaque top should have to worry about whether someone might see the covered outline of her nipple. Women do have nipples, so what?

Jeez, misogyny is alive and well.