To not know what else to do with DM racist comment?

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I'm utterly shocked.

Sat watching the news with DM and she randomly comes out with "I hope Rishi Sunak doesn't get PM as it would be awful to have a Muslim PM".

I was so shocked I just stared at her and said "That's completely racist, you can't say that!"

She then said "No its not really. It's political. If he got it, the Muslims would take over the country".

I was completely appalled, told her never to say anything like that to me and certainly not to the children but she just didn't get it.

DM has MH issues so it's v hard to challenge her on anything or it can turn quite nasty. But I still feel like I should have done more, I just don't know what as she's still my DM but I'm so shocked. She's never said anything like that in front of me before although I know she does have some very strongly pro Brexit ideas which almost verge on being anti non British people, but never explicit and only in line with other strongly pro Brexit people (which I'm not here to start a debate about).

Haven't told DH as would literally ban her from ever coming in the house again.

@roarfeckingroarr I wouldn't want a Muslim PM - because I wouldn't want a PM with strong religious views of any religion.

No I think it’s non-Christian and specifically Church of England that isn’t wanted. Boris was a CofE convert, Blair a closet Catholic. There are lots Muslims who aren’t “strongly” religious. There are lots of Christian’s who are hard line, (see American religious anti abortionists). Try to fight justifying finding Muslims inherently more scary/draconian it simply isn’t true.

Ffs HE'S HINDU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody insulting to say everyone over 50 is racist because of how they were brought up such a generalisation with no evidence.

I work in the extremely multicultural NHS and the worst discriminatory behaviour I have witnessed has come from the younger generations ( for want of a better word) They seem to think they are the arbiters of what is and isn't racism and the comments made are racist and discriminatory as much as an older person might say.

But the excuse for balatant racist sexist etc behaviour is now its cultural and we have to accept that because in their culture x is considered subhuman, inferior etc.

A Muslim who eats pork once accidentally or a hundred times deliberately, does not cease to be a Muslim. That's ridiculous. He said he has this conversation about once a week: What is your background? I’m Muslim. Oh, I had no idea! But you drink? Yes, I do. Do you fast? No, I did occasionally growing up, and my mom still does, but I don’t. (Always) Do you eat pork? I like a pepperoni pizza. He says his 'selective' application of his Muslim faith is no different from many Jews, Hindus, Christians, and Sikhs. His Imam told him that while he could not condone the rule breaking, he knew that God still loved him.

Erm… that was my point. People shouldn't be going round pointing at people saying "You're not a real Muslim because you drink, you're not a real Sikh cause you cut your hair, you're not a real Christian because you don't go to church, you're not a real vegetarian because you wear leather shoes, you're not a real football fan because you don't go to matches, you're not a real x because y". Muslims (and Hindus) are just like Christians insofar as the label covers people with an enormous range of beliefs and real-world behaviour, whatever some of the more well-known "rules" might be.

Also my Muslim friend said he will not eat ritually slaughtered meat because he thinks it's cruel, and he knows plenty of others, including his family, who feel the same way. He said something like 'It's 2022, not 1322'.

Yes, i was agreeing with you, and further disagreeing with the poster who said otherwise.

My auntie, who was a Colonel in the Salvation Army (i.e. full time career priest and staff member) once told me that Catholics were not 'real Christians'. I think and hope the SA has moved on since then (50 years ago).

Fair enough

I mean, it's just basic humanity isn't it, to recognise that everyone's different and has different relationships with their religious beliefs (including, sometimes, a purely cultural identification). Some are very devout, some casual, some obsessive, some extremist, some pragmatic.

It's weird to assume that a Christian politician will keep their beliefs in the background, while a Muslim one will let it influence their decisions (especially when he's actually a Hindu who took his oath on the Bhagavad-Gita…).

My friend was really upset she might have eaten pork, so I tried to sympathise with her and cheer her up — it would've been a total dick move for me to start talking about how it only happened because she was drunk, and asking how come she was okay with breaking the alcohol rule but not the pork rule, and if she was really a Muslim then blah blah blah.