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Don’t want to “make friends” with neighbour’s dog…

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 18:58

NC for this. Sorry it's long!

Small backstory: Neighbour has a yappy dog that never stops, it comes right up to the fence in our back garden and barks incessantly whenever any of us go into the garden. It also barks at passers by on the street - it literally follows them along the fence yapping incessantly as they walk down the street. Neighbour does very little to address this - the occasion half hearted “stop that (name of dog)”, but it doesn’t listen to her and she doesn’t physically remove it. Last year I had a word with the neighbour about this through the fence - the barking was so bad it was upsetting my then newborn aged baby as we sat in the garden. She argued back with me and was generally unpleasant, so I threatened to report her if it didn’t stop. This was around 12 months ago and I’ve had no interactions with her since. The dog has done its usual nuisance barking at the fence when we’ve been out in the garden but I’ve largely tried to ignore it, and now that DD is a bit older she isn’t as startled or bothered by it. So we just largely ignore now.

Today I took DD (now 15 months) out in the garden to play. I sat on the grass relaxing whilst she played. Yappy dog approached the fence as per usual, but we were far enough away from the fence that I could mostly tune it out and just focus on playing with DD. DD didn’t seem remotely bothered by it either. I was then aware of neighbour approaching the fence and heard her say “oh are you saying hello (dogs name)?” Dog continued to incessantly yap. I ignored and continued to play with DD.

Next thing I heard “excuse me can I talk to you?“ through the fence. The fence is too high to see over it, and you can just about make out a person through the slats but I couldn’t really see her. I said “sorry, do you mean me?” (Not really able to see anyone at this point, just a shadow through the fence, and I was also sat a good few feet away from the fence. She said “yes”. I said “erm, yeah I suppose, I can’t see you but I can hear you”. She said “I’m sorry my dog barks and annoys you”. I replied “that’s ok” and then continued to engage with DD who was toddling around (so my attention was more focussed on her and I honestly didn’t want to have any interaction with anyone else at that point). I was hoping this would end the conversation. She continued: “if you made friends with her, she wouldn’t bark at you”. I just again decided to give a one word answer in the hope she would disengage from me as all I wanted to do was relax and play with DD. I replied again “right, ok”. She then continued… “if you made friends with her she wouldn’t bark and then you wouldn’t complain, would you”.

At this point I got irritated as she was pushing an unwanted conversation and also implying I had “complained” when I’d had one interaction with her about this a whole year ago where I’d threatened to complain but not followed that through, and also not mentioned the dog to her since.

I replied: “I just want to enjoy my garden with my DD. I don’t want to have to make friends with a dog through the fence. If your dog is barking constantly it’s because you aren’t training her properly, and that’s up to you to address. It’s not down to other people to make friends with your dog”.

It was more than I wanted to invest in the interaction but to be honest she had annoyed me by that point.

She then said, randomly, “how old is your daughter now?” I replied with her age. In between I was playing with DD and interacting with her, hoping neighbour would get the hint that I didn’t want to engage with her. She then said “what’s her name?” I replied with her name. Just one word answers to try to end it. She then said “ok. I just thought we could be friends that’s all”. Then she (presumably) walked off back to her house (like I say, limited visibility through the fence).

The whole interaction was just so random. Firstly I hadn’t commented on her dog, I was minding my own business and playing with DD. Also a whole year has passed since our last interaction so why approach me now? It would have made sense if I’d complained there and then about the dog, but I’d said nothing. I was just ignoring it as I usually do.

If it’s relevant this isn’t a next door neighbour as such. It’s hard to explain but we are a detached house and her back garden and mine back share a boundary fence. Our houses are nowhere near each other and are actually on separate streets. I am friends with my next door neighbour, by choice, who is lovely. I have no desire to be friends with this other neighbour or her dog.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog? When I'm in my garden I just want to relax and enjoy my garden and my daughter. Is this reasonable? Also, should random people be expected to befriend dogs, or is the onus on the owners to stop the barking regardless?

Any thoughts welcomed.

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OnaBegonia · 16/07/2022 19:01

YABU, she's trying to make peace with you.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:02

@OnaBegonia

But why now? There's been no interactions for a year, and I haven't commented on or complained about her dog since. Surely I'm entitled to just enjoy my garden with DD without unwanted conversation?

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OnaBegonia · 16/07/2022 19:04

Maybe now your DD is out in garden she thought it could be an idea to try and get along,whereas you seem quite rude.

blisstwins · 16/07/2022 19:05

I don’t think you are in the wrong, but you certainly were not kind. You were in the same-ish space at the same time and she made a bit of an effort. I don’t think it matters at all.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:05

It's rude to not want to make conversation through my garden fence when I'm relaxing with my little one? I couldn't disagree more.

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:06

@blisstwins

How was I unkind? Should be befriend everyone and anyone who approaches us? Or are we entitled to boundaries and choices?

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:07

Unkind would have been "fuck off", surely? All I did was try to disengage and end the conversation, multiple times.

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OlympicProcrastinator · 16/07/2022 19:08

If that was your first interaction I’d say YABU but she had her chance last year, she decided to be rude and unhelpful. Tough shit lady. YANBU.

Yerroblemom1923 · 16/07/2022 19:08

She sounds lonely. Reach out to her. It might stop the barking, or at least part of it if dog feels happier with her neighbours....

Pugdogmom · 16/07/2022 19:08

Whilst she is obviously trying to make peace with you, it is her job to train it. I currently have a yapping puppy who barks at my neighbour, but I am currently going through a training programme to stop him yapping. It drives ME nuts, although my neighbour has a dog herself and understands. He's never allowed to keep barking , and I take him in, because the more the dog is allowed to rehearse the barking the more he will continue.

You don't have to make friends with the dog. Suggest that she gets a trainer that deals with reactive dogs, because she's spouting nonsense.

luxxlisbon · 16/07/2022 19:10

There’s just no need to be this rude and abrasive to someone?
No idea how people function day to day like that, you must encounter issues with people all the time. You totally blew this out of proportion and into something it didn’t need to be.

BigShoe · 16/07/2022 19:11

Yanbu. Both her and her dog come across as really annoying. As if it's going to stop barking if you 'make friends ' with it through a fence or if she says 'stop' to it. It's a fucking dog. It doesn't speak English. Just ignore her. She sounds a bit tapped anyway. Maybe she's got heatstroke?

Snugglemonkey · 16/07/2022 19:14

YABU, you were rude and unkind when she was trying to make peace. It is absolutely her responsibility to train the dog but you have not done yourself any favours being hostile.

Bonbon21 · 16/07/2022 19:15

Oh for gods sake grow up!
She was holding out the peace flag!
Maybe she realised she/her dog was out of order previously and was finding a way to apologise and move forward.
She wasnt gatecrashing your entire life, just saying hello and trying to reach out to you.
Yes, she should have done that last year.
Yes, the dog needs proper training.
Yes, it was all a bit clumsy, but maybe she has been screwing up her courage for a while.
Cut her some slack... she might actually be quite a nice person!!!
Like you??

Porcupineintherough · 16/07/2022 19:15

You were rude a d made a not very good situation worse. If that was your intention, then job done. Now go enjoy listening to the dog.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:17

BigShoe · 16/07/2022 19:11

Yanbu. Both her and her dog come across as really annoying. As if it's going to stop barking if you 'make friends ' with it through a fence or if she says 'stop' to it. It's a fucking dog. It doesn't speak English. Just ignore her. She sounds a bit tapped anyway. Maybe she's got heatstroke?

Exactly- how do you "make friends" with a dog through a fence you can barely see through, anyway? My time at home with my DD is precious, I don't get much of it. I'm not going to spend it trying to communicate with a random dog through the fence instead of playing with DD, to compensate for someone's shit training of the pet.

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:17

*their per

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:17

Oh ffs, their pet 😂

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Mosaic123 · 16/07/2022 19:18

I wouldn't want to make friends with her dog either.

She probably did this randomly because the sun is out and your daughter is getting older.

saraclara · 16/07/2022 19:19

Totally unreasonable. She tried to be nice, and you could have achieved the same result (not making friends with her dog, or investing time with her) without being so unpleasant about it. As a pp said, you were unnecessarily abrasive.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:19

Cut her some slack... she might actually be quite a nice person!!!

She was really fucking unpleasant to me last year. So I doubt it.

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Dic · 16/07/2022 19:20

Bonbon21 · 16/07/2022 19:15

Oh for gods sake grow up!
She was holding out the peace flag!
Maybe she realised she/her dog was out of order previously and was finding a way to apologise and move forward.
She wasnt gatecrashing your entire life, just saying hello and trying to reach out to you.
Yes, she should have done that last year.
Yes, the dog needs proper training.
Yes, it was all a bit clumsy, but maybe she has been screwing up her courage for a while.
Cut her some slack... she might actually be quite a nice person!!!
Like you??

Yep. Agree with this.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:20

saraclara · 16/07/2022 19:19

Totally unreasonable. She tried to be nice, and you could have achieved the same result (not making friends with her dog, or investing time with her) without being so unpleasant about it. As a pp said, you were unnecessarily abrasive.

Why am I obliged to be "nice" to someone who was vile to me last time I interacted with them, and who approaches me when I am enjoying precious time with my DD in my own garden?

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:21

Forgot this is AIBU where you're in the wrong no matter what the other person has done or said. Ok then. 😂

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stillvicarinatutu · 16/07/2022 19:22

Thank god for my neighbours! I live ooop north on the friendliest street ever . We all do things for the neighbours like dog let outs or babysitters or taking parcels in . I sit with my lovely neighbour most evenings over a glass of wine .
Being friendly costs absolutely nothing and you never know when you might need a good neighbour.
Yabu. I wouldn't cause a neighbour dispute or burn bridges - you have to live side by side