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Don’t want to “make friends” with neighbour’s dog…

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 18:58

NC for this. Sorry it's long!

Small backstory: Neighbour has a yappy dog that never stops, it comes right up to the fence in our back garden and barks incessantly whenever any of us go into the garden. It also barks at passers by on the street - it literally follows them along the fence yapping incessantly as they walk down the street. Neighbour does very little to address this - the occasion half hearted “stop that (name of dog)”, but it doesn’t listen to her and she doesn’t physically remove it. Last year I had a word with the neighbour about this through the fence - the barking was so bad it was upsetting my then newborn aged baby as we sat in the garden. She argued back with me and was generally unpleasant, so I threatened to report her if it didn’t stop. This was around 12 months ago and I’ve had no interactions with her since. The dog has done its usual nuisance barking at the fence when we’ve been out in the garden but I’ve largely tried to ignore it, and now that DD is a bit older she isn’t as startled or bothered by it. So we just largely ignore now.

Today I took DD (now 15 months) out in the garden to play. I sat on the grass relaxing whilst she played. Yappy dog approached the fence as per usual, but we were far enough away from the fence that I could mostly tune it out and just focus on playing with DD. DD didn’t seem remotely bothered by it either. I was then aware of neighbour approaching the fence and heard her say “oh are you saying hello (dogs name)?” Dog continued to incessantly yap. I ignored and continued to play with DD.

Next thing I heard “excuse me can I talk to you?“ through the fence. The fence is too high to see over it, and you can just about make out a person through the slats but I couldn’t really see her. I said “sorry, do you mean me?” (Not really able to see anyone at this point, just a shadow through the fence, and I was also sat a good few feet away from the fence. She said “yes”. I said “erm, yeah I suppose, I can’t see you but I can hear you”. She said “I’m sorry my dog barks and annoys you”. I replied “that’s ok” and then continued to engage with DD who was toddling around (so my attention was more focussed on her and I honestly didn’t want to have any interaction with anyone else at that point). I was hoping this would end the conversation. She continued: “if you made friends with her, she wouldn’t bark at you”. I just again decided to give a one word answer in the hope she would disengage from me as all I wanted to do was relax and play with DD. I replied again “right, ok”. She then continued… “if you made friends with her she wouldn’t bark and then you wouldn’t complain, would you”.

At this point I got irritated as she was pushing an unwanted conversation and also implying I had “complained” when I’d had one interaction with her about this a whole year ago where I’d threatened to complain but not followed that through, and also not mentioned the dog to her since.

I replied: “I just want to enjoy my garden with my DD. I don’t want to have to make friends with a dog through the fence. If your dog is barking constantly it’s because you aren’t training her properly, and that’s up to you to address. It’s not down to other people to make friends with your dog”.

It was more than I wanted to invest in the interaction but to be honest she had annoyed me by that point.

She then said, randomly, “how old is your daughter now?” I replied with her age. In between I was playing with DD and interacting with her, hoping neighbour would get the hint that I didn’t want to engage with her. She then said “what’s her name?” I replied with her name. Just one word answers to try to end it. She then said “ok. I just thought we could be friends that’s all”. Then she (presumably) walked off back to her house (like I say, limited visibility through the fence).

The whole interaction was just so random. Firstly I hadn’t commented on her dog, I was minding my own business and playing with DD. Also a whole year has passed since our last interaction so why approach me now? It would have made sense if I’d complained there and then about the dog, but I’d said nothing. I was just ignoring it as I usually do.

If it’s relevant this isn’t a next door neighbour as such. It’s hard to explain but we are a detached house and her back garden and mine back share a boundary fence. Our houses are nowhere near each other and are actually on separate streets. I am friends with my next door neighbour, by choice, who is lovely. I have no desire to be friends with this other neighbour or her dog.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog? When I'm in my garden I just want to relax and enjoy my garden and my daughter. Is this reasonable? Also, should random people be expected to befriend dogs, or is the onus on the owners to stop the barking regardless?

Any thoughts welcomed.

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stillvicarinatutu · 16/07/2022 19:23

And you asked am I being unreasonable on the right board . People are saying yes in the majority. Why ask ?

ComDummings · 16/07/2022 19:23

You’re not in the wrong at all, she’s a PITA and so is her dog

Cheeseandlobster · 16/07/2022 19:23

luxxlisbon · 16/07/2022 19:10

There’s just no need to be this rude and abrasive to someone?
No idea how people function day to day like that, you must encounter issues with people all the time. You totally blew this out of proportion and into something it didn’t need to be.

This. You were unnecessarily rude. Did it make you feel better? I bet not. She reached out an olive branch and your uppity attitude snapped it.

hedgehoglurker · 16/07/2022 19:25

YABU. From what you've written, a year ago you had your only ever interaction with this lady, which was negative, and you threatened to report her. (To who BTW?)

A whole year later, she tries to make peace and you were very rude and dismissive. The dog is probably responding to your energy.

saamantha19881 · 16/07/2022 19:26

Why ask for people's opinion and then ignore everyone's opinions and say they're wrong?

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:26

stillvicarinatutu · 16/07/2022 19:22

Thank god for my neighbours! I live ooop north on the friendliest street ever . We all do things for the neighbours like dog let outs or babysitters or taking parcels in . I sit with my lovely neighbour most evenings over a glass of wine .
Being friendly costs absolutely nothing and you never know when you might need a good neighbour.
Yabu. I wouldn't cause a neighbour dispute or burn bridges - you have to live side by side

I have a lovely neighbour friend on the other side of me. She has never been abusive to me over the fence and she trains her dogs not to bark incessantly. As well as being a lovely person. Hence why I am friends with her through choice.

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:27

ComDummings · 16/07/2022 19:23

You’re not in the wrong at all, she’s a PITA and so is her dog

😂

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QuillBill · 16/07/2022 19:27

You are making your own life harder than it needs to be by being so aggressive. Your reaction is completely over the top.

HikingforScenery · 16/07/2022 19:27

Of course yanbu
Tbh, I might have taken my DD inside after the first bit of exchange to prevent any further.
Incessant barking is one of the most antisocial things ever.

If someone shows you who they’re, believe them.
She showed you who she is, last year. Believe her.

BigShoe · 16/07/2022 19:27

Yeah just chuck some crystals around and sort out your chakras OP. It's all because of your harsh energy.

HikingforScenery · 16/07/2022 19:28

How selfish is she to not do something about the barking. Ugh!

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:29

hedgehoglurker · 16/07/2022 19:25

YABU. From what you've written, a year ago you had your only ever interaction with this lady, which was negative, and you threatened to report her. (To who BTW?)

A whole year later, she tries to make peace and you were very rude and dismissive. The dog is probably responding to your energy.

😂😂😂😂😂

Amazing. What a gem.

My "energy"??

You mean me minding my own business on a sunny day in my garden playing with DD and saying in a high pitched voice "shall we kick the ball, DD? Oooh well done! Shall we go on the slide now?"

You know... happy chilled vibes playing with my little one. And along comes the yappy thing responding to all that "bad energy".

Okeyyyyyy then 😂😂

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:29

BigShoe · 16/07/2022 19:27

Yeah just chuck some crystals around and sort out your chakras OP. It's all because of your harsh energy.

😂😂

I mean, the dog barks at EVERYONE who passes so the entire community must have "bad energy" 😂

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Porcupineintherough · 16/07/2022 19:30

she was really fucking unpleasant to me last year

No doubt. But if you approached her using the levels of tact and diplomacy you showed today then perhaps it was mutual?

MiniMoosey · 16/07/2022 19:32

She was a dick to you last year and you were a dick to her today so you’re both dicks.

Blackdiame · 16/07/2022 19:33

She is trying to make peace with you but you are right that she should be controlling her dog and you shouldn't have to make friends with it. That being said, you could've had a more amicable conversation rather than being so stand offish and only give 1 word answers. She may have taken your point about training her dog a bit better and even come to the realisation of that also.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:34

MiniMoosey · 16/07/2022 19:32

She was a dick to you last year and you were a dick to her today so you’re both dicks.

😂

Well, yeah.

When people are dicks to me I remember it.

Also... am I not entitled to enjoy my garden without befriending anyone who decides to push conversation on my through the fence? Must I engage with anyone and everyone who wants to be friends? Or am I entitled to just enjoy my garden with my little one? Confused

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donquixotedelamancha · 16/07/2022 19:35

she had her chance last year, she decided to be rude and unhelpful. Tough shit lady.

That presumes OP is entirely accurate in her assessment of the incident last year. Based solely on OP's responses on here, I'm personally a little sceptical of that.

MarshaMelrose · 16/07/2022 19:38

When you wrote this asking if you were mean or unreasonable, we're you really looking for honest opinions or just for people to agree with you?

BeerPongChampion · 16/07/2022 19:39

How exactly did the conversation go last year? You said she argued back? What was said exactly?

You don’t have to talk to her or make friends with anyone but maybe she was trying to make peace. One of my dogs barks at people she doesn’t know but if she knows them, she doesn’t. It may actually help you as it will mean less noise.

And some dogs do bark more than others. We’ve tried to stop our dog barking with the help of professionals, it’s helped a little but she’s still a barker in comparison to our other dogs and ones I look after.

donquixotedelamancha · 16/07/2022 19:39

Why ask for people's opinion and then ignore everyone's opinions and say they're wrong?

You must be new here. That's the main thing people use AIBU for.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 19:40

MarshaMelrose · 16/07/2022 19:38

When you wrote this asking if you were mean or unreasonable, we're you really looking for honest opinions or just for people to agree with you?

I asked whether it's mean or unreasonable to not want to befriend her and her dog. In other words, should we always befriend everyone and anyone who makes that approach towards us, or is it reasonable to not want to be friends with someone; and the secondly, is it a reasonable expectation that others should befriend a dog to stop it barking?

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kindereggxo · 16/07/2022 19:41

I mean, it’s a dog barking. That’s what dogs do ffs. You threatened to report her instead of actually being pleasant and open to talking in the first instance. She then reached out and you entirely and rudely fucked her off? Confused Do you always give such an attitude to everyone who has wronged you? What a way to live…

Wonnle · 16/07/2022 19:42

I'd have told her to just make sure her dog doesn't yap every time i go outside , and no i don't want to make friends with the bloody thing !

And then report it to the council

Grumpusaurus · 16/07/2022 19:42

Although I adore and own dogs, I cannot stand yappy little feckers like you described. Personally, I'd give it a short sharp squirt with water every time it starts yapping. If the owner won't do anything, it is time to take action.