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To let my dd take this to school

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flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees · 10/07/2022 21:11

Dd (10) loves stranger things and this w/e bought herself a hellfire club water bottle. She goes to a Christian school. The bottle says hellfire club and has an image of the devils head (as in the programme).

Aibu to let her use this water bottle as her school water bottle?? We are not a religious family and I personally think that this is just something from a tv programme (that is not in anyway about devil worshipping or anything actually related to the devil or religion - under those circumstances I might consider it insulting to Christians), and really is no different to her taking in a water bottle that's Harry Potter themed, or Star Wars etc.

The reason I'm even asking is because a couple of weeks ago dd made up this game where she draws the devil and gives him a 'health bar' like in a video game, and she asks you to think of things that might hurt him (e.g being hit by a car, throwing a spear at him, force feeding him cupcakes, being sat on by a giant panda - I've enjoyed the more inventive funny ones) and the health bar goes down until you kill him.

Just a silly thing she thought of and was doing in her notebook at some point during lunch break. Her teacher 'told her off' (I'm not sure how firmly it was said) and basically said it wasn't appropriate to be drawing a devil at a Christian school. So I'm thinking her teacher might also think it inappropriate to have this water bottle.

I personally don't see anything wrong with her having this water bottle (or the game!) and I'm happy to let her take it in tomorrow. But if her teacher tells her she can't have it then aibu to argue this with the teacher or should I just let it go and tell dd she can't take it in?

(Also apologies I'm using talk app so can't enable voting I don't think)

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flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees · 10/07/2022 21:32

Ugh I meant to not say any more about her watching, but feel I should just add in that school are already aware she's watched it, and a fair few kids in her class have too. No concerns raised and I communicate often and very well with the staff so they've had plenty of opportunity.

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Testina · 10/07/2022 21:33

Well you could send her with her usual bottle tomorrow and just ask her teacher? 🙄

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Testina · 10/07/2022 21:35

flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees · 10/07/2022 21:32

Ugh I meant to not say any more about her watching, but feel I should just add in that school are already aware she's watched it, and a fair few kids in her class have too. No concerns raised and I communicate often and very well with the staff so they've had plenty of opportunity.

Well there you go then 🤷🏻‍♀️ You communicate often and well with staff, so why not just do that instead of attention seeking on here?

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WishILivedInThrushGreen · 10/07/2022 21:36

If you're asking on here then you know that it's possibly offensive.

I wouldn't be advertising the fact that my child watches inappropriate material.

It's akin to sending a 9 year old in with a Grand Theft Auto water bottle.

Leave it at home.

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CatLadyDrinksGin · 10/07/2022 21:37

As an adult who works in a school I’d be flagging it as a safeguarding issue that a 10 year old was watching something inappropriate.

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Runnerbeansflower · 10/07/2022 21:38

RaggedBlousedPhilanthropist · 10/07/2022 21:31

Ask yourself this.

If you were a non-Muslim at a Muslim school, would you put ham sandwiches or pork cocktail sausages in her packed lunch or give her a water bottle that had an alcohol brand on it?

If yes- then it’s fine.

If no- then it’s not.

If I chose to send my child to this school I would abide by their rules/values.

If this was the only school my child could get a place at I would expect that my child could eat pork.

My DD's school is Catholic (didn't get our first choice) and it has Muslim and Jewish children. They are not expected to join in church services.

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EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 10/07/2022 21:40

Yeah teachers would be forever flagging things up. They've never bothered to mention to me ds 11s stranger things merchandise

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Purpleforthewin · 10/07/2022 21:40

Yabu. I'm Christian and not offended by it but I still don't think it appropriate for a primary school lunch bottle

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Supergirl1958 · 10/07/2022 21:40

I wouldn't let her take it. Personally if it was clear in my school that a primary school age child had watched something like Stranger Things, I'd be reporting it! It's not age appropriate, let alone appropriate in a religious school

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milkysmum · 10/07/2022 21:43

My son is 10 ( year 5) and has watched all the stranger things episodes, and from listening to him chatting to his friends so have most of them. He goes to a catholic school and I don't think it would cause any concern if someone took a stranger things water bottle into school.

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changingforthebetter3 · 10/07/2022 21:44

If the teacher had an issue with the drawing then I imagine same would apply to the water bottle. I'd leave it at home, not worth the hassle for me or my dd.

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milkysmum · 10/07/2022 21:44

Oh and for those saying this is a safeguarding issue I really beg to differ ( and I say that as a mental health worker that works in children's safeguarding team ).

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Lostlostlost3 · 10/07/2022 21:46

Troll post?

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Kite22 · 10/07/2022 21:47

WishILivedInThrushGreen · 10/07/2022 21:36

If you're asking on here then you know that it's possibly offensive.

I wouldn't be advertising the fact that my child watches inappropriate material.

It's akin to sending a 9 year old in with a Grand Theft Auto water bottle.

Leave it at home.

This

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CourtneeLuv · 10/07/2022 21:47

flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees · 10/07/2022 21:11

Dd (10) loves stranger things and this w/e bought herself a hellfire club water bottle. She goes to a Christian school. The bottle says hellfire club and has an image of the devils head (as in the programme).

Aibu to let her use this water bottle as her school water bottle?? We are not a religious family and I personally think that this is just something from a tv programme (that is not in anyway about devil worshipping or anything actually related to the devil or religion - under those circumstances I might consider it insulting to Christians), and really is no different to her taking in a water bottle that's Harry Potter themed, or Star Wars etc.

The reason I'm even asking is because a couple of weeks ago dd made up this game where she draws the devil and gives him a 'health bar' like in a video game, and she asks you to think of things that might hurt him (e.g being hit by a car, throwing a spear at him, force feeding him cupcakes, being sat on by a giant panda - I've enjoyed the more inventive funny ones) and the health bar goes down until you kill him.

Just a silly thing she thought of and was doing in her notebook at some point during lunch break. Her teacher 'told her off' (I'm not sure how firmly it was said) and basically said it wasn't appropriate to be drawing a devil at a Christian school. So I'm thinking her teacher might also think it inappropriate to have this water bottle.

I personally don't see anything wrong with her having this water bottle (or the game!) and I'm happy to let her take it in tomorrow. But if her teacher tells her she can't have it then aibu to argue this with the teacher or should I just let it go and tell dd she can't take it in?

(Also apologies I'm using talk app so can't enable voting I don't think)

Why would you enjoy any of this Confused

None of this is appropriate for a child, at all.

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CourtneeLuv · 10/07/2022 21:47

Encourage, not enjoy

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Hoppinggreen · 10/07/2022 21:49

I am not a Christian but you are being very provocative.
I also agree that your child should not be watching Stranger Things

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Johnnysgirl · 10/07/2022 21:49

Completely attention seeking. Both of you, op. You seem to be proudly egging her on. Grow up.

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Anxiernie · 10/07/2022 21:49

GTA is nothing like Stranger Things. It's killing sex workers, cartels, kidnapping, organised crime, murder for fun, bounty hunting, drug smuggling. It's just a load of crime in a game for fun.

Stranger Things has some elements that may be inappropriate but if a parent watches it first you could skip that part. Most of the rating 15 comes from it being "scary" rather than hardcore sex/drugs/gangs type of thing. My daughter has watched 12s since she was 5, so I would probably allow some 15s by age 10/11, it would really depend on what was in it! If it's mostly just because it's deemed "scary" then I'd be a better judge of what will scare my kid.

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Anxiernie · 10/07/2022 21:51

Also the devil game sounds harmless and I don't see how that inappropriate for a child at all. Inappropriate for a Christian school perhaps but not for children in general. It's no different to doing the same game with any monster.

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Hoppinggreen · 10/07/2022 21:53

flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees · 10/07/2022 21:32

Ugh I meant to not say any more about her watching, but feel I should just add in that school are already aware she's watched it, and a fair few kids in her class have too. No concerns raised and I communicate often and very well with the staff so they've had plenty of opportunity.

It would be very unusual for a school to openly disapprove of a child’s viewing but they are probably thinking it.
Plus it’s a 15, even if the school thought it was a great idea for your child to watch it you shouldn’t allow it

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DogsAndGin · 10/07/2022 21:53

Stranger Things is certificate 15. Why on earth would you let a 10 year old watch it?!

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nokidshere · 10/07/2022 21:54

The reason I'm even asking is because a couple of weeks ago dd made up this game where she draws the devil and gives him a 'health bar' like in a video game, and she asks you to think of things that might hurt him (e.g being hit by a car, throwing a spear at him, force feeding him cupcakes, being sat on by a giant panda - I've enjoyed the more inventive funny ones) and the health bar goes down until you kill him.

Just a silly thing she thought of and was doing in her notebook at some point during lunch break. Her teacher 'told her off' (I'm not sure how firmly it was said) and basically said it wasn't appropriate to be drawing a devil at a Christian school. So I'm thinking her teacher might also think it inappropriate to have this water bottle.

you already know it will be an issue so what will you gain from it? She's at a Christian school that would look like you are causing trouble to make a point. Find her another school that you are happy with.

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ThinWomansBrain · 10/07/2022 21:55

clearly you do recognise that it might be regarded as offensive, or you wouldn;t have posted the question.
Maybe let her use it for school, but warn her that if the school object, she'll have to switch to using a plainer one.

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DillonPanthersFNL · 10/07/2022 21:55

@flightofthesevenmillionbumblebees take her out of school and home school if her school values are in such polar opposite to your own

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