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To be hopping mad if Rishi gets pm job?

267 replies

malificent7 · 10/07/2022 09:47

Simply because he is super rich and his wife evaded tax while we all struggle with the cost of living? How can they let him stand?

This is not a racist thread btw.

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FortonServices · 10/07/2022 09:52

I agree.

I think there should be an inquiry into the bounce back loans and deals to mates during Covid.

I also think his family tax affairs need more public scrutiny.

QuebecBagnet · 10/07/2022 09:54

Plus he’s not in favour of tax cuts so economically it’d be grim for us plebs if he gets in.

11Hawkins · 10/07/2022 09:55

Totally agree.

I don't understand how someone whose broken the rules as much as Boris can get the job. We might as well keep to having Boris?!

9to5jingles · 10/07/2022 09:56

Agree. I hope Javid does well.

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 09:57

malificent7 · 10/07/2022 09:47

Simply because he is super rich and his wife evaded tax while we all struggle with the cost of living? How can they let him stand?

This is not a racist thread btw.

His wife evaded tax?

That’s quite the allegation. Do you have any evidence of it, or do you maybe not know what tax evasion is?

carrotChicory · 10/07/2022 09:59

They are all super rich and evade anything they can / put stuff on expenses

I don’t think there’s any good option here so I’m not bothered who gets the job

Hugasauras · 10/07/2022 10:01

That's not tax evasion, which is illegal. It's tax avoidance, which is legal.

perimenofertility · 10/07/2022 10:04

Whether it's tax evasion or avoidance, illegal or highly immoral, you shouldn't do it when your husband is chancellor of the exchequer. That alone makes me not want Sunak to be new PM.

coodawoodashooda · 10/07/2022 10:05

That story about him pretending a Sainsbury employee's car was his own passed me off. He must really think everyone is stupid.

Heroicallyl0st · 10/07/2022 10:06

Was it tax evasion or tax avoidance?

I don’t believe being rich/poor is relevant. Understanding of the issues people are facing, and ability to empathise (not just sympathise) and to be respectful of the people you’re governing is what’s relevant.

Ncwinc · 10/07/2022 10:09

Avoided not evaded.

Getoff · 10/07/2022 10:16

Hugasauras · 10/07/2022 10:01

That's not tax evasion, which is illegal. It's tax avoidance, which is legal.

Claiming non-dom status is not even tax avoidance. There are nowadays three levels of tax reduction

  1. Evasion. Not paying taxes that are legally due. A crime.
  2. Avoidance. Going out of your way to reduce your tax bill by exploiting the rules in ways not intended by parliament. Not a crime, but claimed by the left-wing half of the population to be immoral.
  3. Reducing your tax burden by using schemes parliament spherically intended you to use in the way that you used them. Pensions, ISAs and, more obscurely, claiming non-dom status all fall into this category.
Getoff · 10/07/2022 10:17

I think I've seen my option 3 labelled "acceptable tax mitigation" on a government web site. Or something like that.

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 10:18

Nothing about tax evasion there. It’s interesting the lies being posted about the most prominent non-white candidate.

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 10:19

perimenofertility · 10/07/2022 10:04

Whether it's tax evasion or avoidance, illegal or highly immoral, you shouldn't do it when your husband is chancellor of the exchequer. That alone makes me not want Sunak to be new PM.

So you don’t have a pension then, or use your personal tax-free allowance? Or is that different?

Getoff · 10/07/2022 10:20

I say "nowadays" because "avoidance" has only something that civil servants started talking about roundabout the time Gordon Brown was PM. Before that, all officialdom cared about was whether something was legal.

I think it's a retrograde step that we now talk about "avoidance", it implies that shame/mob-action/peer pressure are being recognised as a way of regulating society, it's a step backwards from the rule-of-law.

BeenThereBoughtTheTeeShirt · 10/07/2022 10:21

I think it would be excellent for some of the pupils I teach to see a BAME prime minister in office... but I would prefer Sajid over Rishi.
I wanted Rory Stewart in 2019 so whoever I like - in a LeastWorst scenario - has the kiss of death in any case.
I often wonder what a Corbyn government would have looked like.

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 10/07/2022 10:24

Yanbu he's an UHNW elitist twat with absolute no idea about, or interest in, real life for the general population.

I honestly feel like he sees politics as a hobby, something that he can do for a bit of a laugh and to make new connections for later life. I would be very surprised if he thinks about how his decisions impact normal people any more than he considere how they would impact a stray cat.

It really is about time we brought in a law that states someone cannot be selected as a PM unless they have had a minimum of 25 years experience in a role outside of politics.

TullyApplebottom · 10/07/2022 10:26

perimenofertility · 10/07/2022 10:04

Whether it's tax evasion or avoidance, illegal or highly immoral, you shouldn't do it when your husband is chancellor of the exchequer. That alone makes me not want Sunak to be new PM.

shes entitled to manage her affairs however she wants, within the law.
my husband has no involvement in how I manage my tax affairs and if he tried to interfere I’d tell him to shove off.

plugee · 10/07/2022 10:28

Plus he’s not in favour of tax cuts so economically it’d be grim for us plebs if he gets in.

I think this is realistic tbh. The country is broke & there is no way of funding the ageing population without serious tax.

plugee · 10/07/2022 10:28

I hope Javid does well.

Javid had non dom status, isn't that what Rishi's wife had?

Stripyhoglets1 · 10/07/2022 10:29

He won't if the membership get a vote. He was a remainer and isn't planning on reducing taxes.
The membership will vote for someone much more to the right.

plugee · 10/07/2022 10:29

Who here doesn't reduce their tax bill if it's legal?

Threetulips · 10/07/2022 10:31

It’s interesting the lies being posted about the most prominent non-white candidate

Thats politics. Every politician has lies spread, plus a sprinkling of the truth. Plus they come out of the woodwork later on.
People won’t get to vote who’s leader, unless there’s a general election, same as Boris.