To be hopping mad if Rishi gets pm job?

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Simply because he is super rich and his wife evaded tax while we all struggle with the cost of living? How can they let him stand?

This is not a racist thread btw.

I Studied Politics as part of my PPE, everyone asked if I would enjoy a political career.
No, because look at the electorate, barely governable, basically taf.

I hope that it will involve getting Elton John to rework ‘Are you ready for love’?

On the plus side, if we have to have a tory selected by sycophantic tory MPs, an independently wealthy one won;t have to grovel around & give favours to anyone who'll put their hand in their pockets to shell out for new wallpaper.

Good summary.

@Hrpuffnstuff1 and so many hate liars but can't handle & don't want to hear the truth. It's impossible

@duvetsonsunday so putting aside the optics of that on the world stage do you think if you had done that the economy would be in tip top shape? Personally I think we never recovered from 08, wage stagnation, asset inflation, austerity, little investment etc. add Brexit & pandemic to the mix & an ageing population I think we would still be in for turbulent economic times.

The whole world is fucked it isn’t just us.
Personally tax cuts to attract overseas investors and people with money from countries who are raising taxes otherwise we will have the reverse happening.

It will be the 70s all over again

@Hrpuffnstuff1 am hoping that instead you just used the E part of your degree and did something infinitely more useful such as make money off those same idiots

@duvetsonsunday well because Boris had a party back in 2020 and the UK had to prove itself to be useful to the Americans post Brexit. Plus I suspect they didnt think too much about the blowback. Brits had assumed they would be fine because they dont buy Russian energy etc. The forgot about global (European) energy, food, fertiliser etc etc markets.

They are all self serving cretins, same as the liebour party as well! Their promises all go out the window as soon as they are elected and the only thing any of them care about is themselves! There are very few politicians now that are in their job to actually help others! We will just be exchanging one arsehole for another! The whole system needs overhauling.

@duvetsonsunday . Priti, is that you?

Rishi had the foresight to set up his run months ago, but lacked the judgement to get his wife's tax affairs organised to be more palatable. She's now done that but TOO late.
Sajid, is now a serial quitter, if the going gets tough in Number 10 (invasion in Europe/pandemic/cost of living crisis) will he just flounce out?
Priti, was party favourite, but small boats have sunk her.
Grant Shapps ... just no.
Nadim, very statesmanlike, apparently more careless than Mrs Sunak.
Most of the other candidates aren't even household names in their own homes. Red wall voters were Boris voters not Tory voters, die-hard Tory voters will recognise at the next GE that the leader of the party is not necessarily going to be PM, just the least unappealing candidate.
Like the last election it will be Labour's to lose, but they have form.

If India can get discounted Russian oil why are we missing out .If Turkey is secretly getting grain of them why can't we?

Because we are not India or Turkey

We should look after our own instead of getting emotionally involved in affairs of others.

It's not either or because we don't seem to looking after our own very well. Although I think everything is linked so even if not involved impact to Europe is impact to us.

But like I said we had huge issues before Ukraine..

The media seem to be going after Sunak today don’t they?
I am not a fan but his wife did nothing illegal

Definitely no racism going on though, absolutely not

In defence of Rishi - he has sooo much money that he could truly swan off into the sunset and never work another day and have everything he wants.

Surely this means he’s actually doing the job because he wants to. It’s a highly stressful job to do for a hobby and the little thanks you get.

I can’t say I am upset by his billionaire status. If anything it’s a plus as less likely to be signing dodgy contracts or proposing things to gain a post gov position.

The tax thing. It sounded outrageous initially but the more I looked into it fair play. She’s Indian, she wants to stay Indian and she pays a shitload of tax in India. Not really fair to double tax someone because of their husbands job and I am pretty sure India needs that tax more than we do.

I was gutted when the tax thing came out. Up till then I was hoping he’d take over from Johnson as PM, the sooner the better.

His own tax affairs or his wife’s, Sunak was morally complicit. Disgusting greed as much as the legal side. As a freelance I’ve always paid tax voluntarily, declared everything. Now I know the chancellor of the exchequer was laughing at fools like me. Exactly the way Johnson was laughing at our lockdown sacrifices while he was partying. We deserve so much better.

Word of mouth is good on Zahawi for competence and personal characteristics but apparently there's damaging stuff out there on his finances/tax which is already being weaponised by his opponents. And the claim for heating his stables on expenses is not going to go well with the electorate.

The fact he deliberately excluded over 3 million from covid support/grants makes him unfit to be PM, even unfit to be a MP.

Yeah, they are not legally corrupt (that we know of) only morally corrupt.

I would be surprised if Sunak makes it though as tax rises are the antithesis of what conservatism is supposed to be about.

It’s partly tax rises that brought down BJ.

Did Sunak's wife actually pay tax in India? She said she paid tax on her earnings elsewhere, but I don't think it was ever revealed which country that was in - best guess was Cayman Islands I think. Feel free to correct me if you have a source.

I would urge everyone to read the HMRC annual report, it's very illuminating.

During a period when between 400k and 1m EU citizens left the UK the tax and NI take went UP.

Between 2014/15 and 2020/21, receipts for income tax and NI at HMRC were; £271.1bn, £281.4bn, £296.3bn, £316.5bn, £329.0bn, £336.1bn and £333.5bn respectively.

Businesses enjoyed the influx of largely cheap labour, but for a variety of reasons while most didn't pay much tax, they did depress wages for those at the bottom. Current levels of taxation are all about filling the coffers after furloughs etc to enable some handouts at the next general election.

@lemonswan i agree