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To not forgive this (chicken pox related)

587 replies

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:21

My youngest DD is CEV. She has numerous health problems and we’ve had to be very careful her whole life.

That has meant, especially since covid, finding a balance between protecting her, but making sure her siblings don’t live too limited a life. It’s not an easy balance and not one we always get 100% right.

Our policy with other people has always been - please give us a heads up if we’re due to spend time with you and we’ll risk assess it. We never expect other people to cancel their attendance at parties etc, if we don’t feel it’s safe enough for her then we miss out. All we ask is that we’re given the info.

People around us are generally really good. It’s been a bit problematic since the mindset of covid being over has come in, but generally we’ve muddled through ok.

Earlier in the summer one of my other kids, who is 8, was invited to a sleepover for a birthday - just her and the birthday kid. The parent of the birthday kid knows us very well and said there was no coughs, colds or anything in their home the afternoon I dropped DD3 off. Everything seemed fine and dandy.

A few days after the party I got a message saying that the birthday child had chicken pox. Sure as fate DD3 had caught them. DD4 then caught them and it was a horrid time as she ended up spending 6 days in hospital seriously ill.

To me it was one of those things and couldn’t be helped.

Except now it turns out that the birthday child was known to have CP before the party. The birthday mum told another mum because she felt guilty and that mum told her to tell us or she would.

Birthday child felt well with the CP and apparently “really really really wanted DD4 as their sleepover guest” so the parents decided to just not say anything because it “could” have happened that they didn’t know so we had decided to take that risk.

They’ve been apologetic, as in the Dad apologised very briefly, but they seem fixed on “but, if we hadn’t known them you wouldn’t have known” and that, to them, seems to make it ok. Whereas to me it really doesn’t make it ok.

I don’t want anything to do with them again. I don’t trust them and I’m furious that they’d take that risk with someone else’s child, especially in our situation.

and they don’t seem to grasp that even before I had my youngest I’d have been pissed off if someone deliberately hid that because who exposes another child to CP deliberately without their parents ok? What if the Mum was pregnant?

My AIBU is this - the kids met at an activity. During the holidays when it’s off we usually try and organise a few play dates so they don’t lose touch. It’s always them/their DD that asks. Mine is happy to meet up, but has never asked. This summer I’m thinking just not agreeing to any of the meet ups.

If my DD asks id need to re-assess, but I don’t think she will. Id rather just let the friendship fizzle to a weekly thing at their activity as that way it limits contact with the parents.

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Plzhelpifyoucan · 24/06/2022 09:25

I don’t blame you, I’d be furious too. She knew and she was happy for your children to be put at risk, like you said you could’ve been pregnant. She should’ve informed you and you can no longer trust her judgement. Plus they aren’t even very sorry are they?

BMW6 · 24/06/2022 09:26

Frankly I'd be telling them to Fuck Off out of your lives forever.

Completely unforgivable.

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:26

Bloody hell - sorry. Typing on the bus means that post is littered with errors.

we ask people to give us a heads up if we’re due to attend an event and someone is unwell.

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SurpriseSurprise · 24/06/2022 09:27

I’d be furious, especially as your DD4 ended up in hospital. I think I would go NC with them because it’s just not fair

I assume them know just how poorly your DD4 ended up?

Outlookmainlyfair · 24/06/2022 09:28

why push a friendship when their self centredness caused your child to be hospitalised! 100% YANBU

Coughee · 24/06/2022 09:30

I would 100% do the same and not meet up. They aren't even properly sorry are they?

Brefugee · 24/06/2022 09:30

yeah, I'd just drop them. I wouldn't say anything unless they ask why they haven't seen your DC lately, then I'd let them know it's because they're selfish cunts.
Then just carry on your life without them without another thought.

Berthatydfil · 24/06/2022 09:31

YANBU. The key is that they knew the child had CP and didn’t cancel.

CP is infectious before the spots come out so had the sleepover been a few days before then it would be a different matter as they wouldn’t have known. However saying that pre spot CP does present with sniffles/cold like symptoms so it still might have been a stretch but not completely unreasonable.

But if they KNEW then in my opinion all bets are off. They chose to put their child’s wants over your child’s health. Totally selfish in my opinion.

mocktail · 24/06/2022 09:31

They should have told you, obviously. On the other hand you can't avoid chickenpox forever and the risk of complications rises as you get older rather than the opposite as you might expect.

I'm guessing there was a medical reason why she couldn't be vaccinated?

MargosKaftan · 24/06/2022 09:31

Oh god cut them out. Sad their dc suffers too, but id not speak to them again and certainly they cant be trusted with someone else's child.

MargosKaftan · 24/06/2022 09:33

Posted too soon - perhaps make an effort now to fill the summer up with play dates /events with others so your dd isn't free and doesn't feel she's missed this friend as she's seen others so much.

snowmanshoes · 24/06/2022 09:33

I think that’s unforgivable and I don’t understand people like this. I would have been mortified if your dd had caught chicken pox (or anything) from a child of mine and I didn’t know and couldn’t have prevented it, so the thought of knowingly exposing your dd is shocking!

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:33

They know how ill she was. That’s what made the Mum talk to another mum, because she felt guilty. She’s completely avoided me since - she hasn’t done pick up once (it was usually her) and if she drops off she stays in the car.

The Dad, who keeps trying to chat at pick up, just seems fixated on “but if we didn’t know the same could have happened”.

If my DD didn’t love the activity so much, or there was another one the same, I’d move her and then cut them off totally.

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Darbs76 · 24/06/2022 09:34

That’s unforgivable, I hope she felt awful and it would stop her ever doing something like that again. Completely selfish behaviour

Dotjones · 24/06/2022 09:36

They don't care so you don't need them in your lives. YANBU to be pissed off, but I guess YABU if you don't expect a proportion of people to behave like this. You've summed it up with the "Covid is over" phrase. During the early stages of the pandemic I was hoping that people would realise that good hygiene and doing your best to not infect others was the right thing to do, not just with Covid but with any illness. But enough people are selfish enough to mean that's not the case. I hate to imagine what it will be like come winter, when virus rates shoot back up again.

lunar1 · 24/06/2022 09:36

That's absolutely unforgivable. I'd cut them off too.

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:37

mocktail · 24/06/2022 09:31

They should have told you, obviously. On the other hand you can't avoid chickenpox forever and the risk of complications rises as you get older rather than the opposite as you might expect.

I'm guessing there was a medical reason why she couldn't be vaccinated?

My youngest isn’t likely to make it to adulthood so rising complications with age isn’t my biggest concern.

She was vaccinated. She just didn’t develop immunity.

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Samcro · 24/06/2022 09:37

yanbu Cut them dead.

LittleOwl153 · 24/06/2022 09:38

So you are saying the birthday child actually had chicken pox on the day of her birthday party and the party went ahead as a sleepover no less without giving anyone the choice to expose their kids/families? That is insane. Chicken pox can kill healthy kids without thinking about your sick kid.

I absolutely would be giving them an extremely wide berth from now on. Definitely wouldn't be inviting that trouble into my home. I can't believe they said it was OK because they might not have know when they know what an issue it is for your youngest. I hope that they know what an awful time she had and that they feel guilty. My guess is they don't because they think their daughters party is more important that your daughters life.

RewildingAmbridge · 24/06/2022 09:39

It's annoying but if you're child is CEV aren't the rest of your children entitled to the chicken pox vaccine? If not I would've paid for it, we did and DS is not CEV, his cousins have both just had awful CP he's fine and spent time with them when they would've been contagious, also avoided the nursery outbreak. Worth asking your GP is your others haven't had it too.

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:39

Dotjones · 24/06/2022 09:36

They don't care so you don't need them in your lives. YANBU to be pissed off, but I guess YABU if you don't expect a proportion of people to behave like this. You've summed it up with the "Covid is over" phrase. During the early stages of the pandemic I was hoping that people would realise that good hygiene and doing your best to not infect others was the right thing to do, not just with Covid but with any illness. But enough people are selfish enough to mean that's not the case. I hate to imagine what it will be like come winter, when virus rates shoot back up again.

I’m not even going to go there with covid being “over”. I’d likely get banned.

And I do expect a portion of people to behave like that. I’ve worked really closely with the schools of the older kids as we know we can’t rely on everyone.

Its just not expected from someone we’ve known for a few years, and in fact who once minded DD3 when we had to rush DD4 into hospital when a simple cold near killed her.

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Reluctantadult · 24/06/2022 09:39

This is really bad. I could get past it.

cottagegardenflower · 24/06/2022 09:40

This is unforgivable

RewildingAmbridge · 24/06/2022 09:40

Your unwell come may well not be fit to be vaccinated or might not develop immuno response but vaccinating the others helps to protect her

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/06/2022 09:40

I'd be cutting them out for sure. It's unbelievably selfish for a parent of a child who is known to have CP, to not advise others they are due to be around. Especially so for a child CEV. It's a really shitty way to behave and if I was in your shoes, I'd feel like they literally couldn't have given a toss about my child.
There's no apology in the world that would make me remain friends. You'd never be able to trust them tbh.