Debating between these two countries. Which is better to bring children up in?

[Mixedfeelings89]

England or America. I am from England, Husband is American. We are not rich, nor poor therefore we would be living a average lifestyle. My only concern is which country will be better for the children? If we didn't have children I wouldn't really care which country either way. I just want the best for the children. Children are not yet school age, if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance.

Guns. Healthcare. Racial bias. Holiday. Women's rights.

Not for me.

No offence to anyone, but ENGLAND 100%. You shoulda put what to vote for, like YABU for America and YANBU for England.

Hell would freeze over before I would move to America.

The problem is there won't be many people who have experience of bringing up children in both countries, but the much higher risk of school shootings in America would be a huge factor for me.

I live in America. Unless you have a good job with good holiday and insurance packages, work life balance is incredibly hard to achieve. A lot of entry level jobs can start at zero holiday days per year.

What @cushionpillow said. No way I’d want to live in the US right now.

England - lots of wankers
US - even more wankers. Plus wankers with guns.

Well I wouldn’t want to worry if I could afford my kids healthcare or if they get shot at school.

i don’t think England is perfect (moved here from another country) but would chose it 100 times over the US.

U.K. I’d probably go Scotland tbh

I have 2 sets of friends who are moving back here after being in the USA.

I'd take wankers without guns everytime!!

I’m in the USA and I vote England 100%.

England is a much better country if you're not wealthy.

Also guns, anti-abortion and enormously dependent on fossil fuels.

I have lived in both.

UK. I’d be terrified to send my kid to school in the US

For me, England is better despite the mess we're in at the moment because I don't have to worry about my child being shot at school.

I have family (one of couple American, one British) who moved to the US to raise their kids but moved back after a couple of years. Free healthcare, safety at schools and the cost of college in the US were the main motivators.

However terrible Boris and the Tories are, there’s absolutely no way I would want to risk living in a country that might have Trump back in charge in 2024.

Would you get access to the NHS?
There are fewer guns in the UK.

Overall I would say England. But whereabouts in the US and where in the UK?

Yeah I have to agree with PP, whilst Ive holidayed in US many times I dont think Id really want to live there ....... obviously UK isnt fantastic either 😂

We’ve lived in both, and I think either are fine. Each have their pluses and minuses.

There are some absolutely wonderful paces in the US, and there is far more range there than in the UK in terms of landscapes, communities, and ways of living.

We’d have been happy having a family in Manhattan, or all the way over the other side, in Newport Beach or San Diego.

England. And I'm not English.

I don't really see any positives for the US to be honest. Workers rights are practically non-existent: little holiday, no paid maternity leave, can be fired on the spot. The whole health care system is a joke: have to have insurance, generally via your work, but often it only goes so far so if someone gets seriously ill you can end up bankrupt. Then the whole gun situation is insane. I wouldn't want to bring up kids who are made to do active shooter drills and have armed guards at school like this is fine. Not willing to do anything to try and stop the shootings though. Then I find the whole extreme patriotism drilled into kids at school unnerving. I guess it stops people questioning all these shitty things about the country.
Oh, and the food is full of shite. University is crippling expensive.
It's a big fat nope from me. That said, England is going down the shitter. I'd suggest a Scandinavian country....

Uk without question

Guns and healthcare alone would be enough for me to say England. Not that England doesn’t have it’s own issues, but at least none of them involve kids doing active shooter drills or going bankrupt because you get cancer.