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To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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PetraBP · 09/06/2022 09:23

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

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Rabbitholedigger · 24/06/2022 19:59

"Her therapist notes open a whole new set of problems, the dates are all over the place, they do not fit the testimony of the uk, never mind the Virgina trial when Amber needed to change her testimony. “You never forget the first time” unless you read your therapist notes during the weeks break and realise you’re a year off. Even if allowed they are still hearsay."

Yep it's absolute bullshit. She keeps backdating. Was it 7 times she changed her testimony in Virginia as more witnesses for JD entered their depositions?

Her therapists notes weee discounted for very good reason, unless anyone wants to say judge Penney is corrupt?

LetitiaLeghorn · 24/06/2022 20:01

AdamRyan · 24/06/2022 19:46

Abusers pick women who won't be believed.
She can't donate the money when she's subject to legal action as it would be potentially criminal. She got the settlement in 2018 and Depp said he was suing in 2019. So she barely had any time to make the donations.
At most she's guilty of being sloppy with language.
Honestly. It's so boring to just go round and round the same stuff.

I'm of the position that she didn't need to donate the money and she could change her mind at any time. It was her marriage and her money.
But, she had the money for 13 months before she was sued. She received her last payment on 1 February 2018 and got sued in March 2019. I think 13 months is a long time. I've seen poster's on MN meet someone, get pregnant, move in together and give birth and break up in 13 months. So I'm pretty sure two cheques could have been signed in 13 months.

Boulshired · 24/06/2022 20:20

@Rabbitholedigger it was the UK trial she kept changing her testimony. Even then she still managed to forget/ or it was not relevant that Depp had a cast on during the staircase incident that she was being punched with.

Rabbitholedigger · 24/06/2022 20:25

@Boulshired I can't remember which but she changed her deposition 7 times on one case and 5 times in another. I mean, if you're truthful your testimony never changes, does it?

I'm a survivor and I'm an elephant about my truth.

Boulshired · 24/06/2022 21:14

Apparently (my most used word) for Amber to appeal on evidence that was deemed inadmissible it would be unsealed. Amber could end up with her therapist notes warts and all up for public scrutiny and still fail her appeal.

LetitiaLeghorn · 24/06/2022 21:42

Boulshired · 24/06/2022 21:14

Apparently (my most used word) for Amber to appeal on evidence that was deemed inadmissible it would be unsealed. Amber could end up with her therapist notes warts and all up for public scrutiny and still fail her appeal.

So, she'd win her argument in getting the previously inadmissible evidence in. But all the things that her team had managed to get ruled as inadmissible would be allowed to be used as well?
That's impossible to say who it would work best for. Can you there really be anything left to reveal, though? Are there still depths to which these two can sink lower? 😲

Rabbitholedigger · 24/06/2022 22:08

"Apparently (my most used word) for Amber to appeal on evidence that was deemed inadmissible it would be unsealed. Amber could end up with her therapist notes warts and all up for public scrutiny and still fail her appeal"

She can't admit new evidence, even those therapist notes (whichI'm going to say are back dated hand written notes by herself - sorry!)

She wants the evidence presented already, cloaked because, frankly it' s what made her lose the case, along with herself, and she wants it taken out of the public eye. judge Penney said no. Public trial, remains public. In other words "you ain't changing the the narrative"

Wise judge

AdamRyan · 24/06/2022 22:55

Loads of her evidence wasn't admitted. The verdicts make no sense. I am not surprised Heard wants to appeal.

Rabbitholedigger · 24/06/2022 23:15

What was missing @AdamRyan. Hearsay isn't allowed in the US.

Some of Depps wasn't allowed either (don't know what that entailed)

Friars23 · 25/06/2022 00:13

But, she had the money for 13 months before she was sued

Also note she had the final instalment 13 months before. She received her divorce settlement in instalments with the final instalment of $2.3 million 13 months before the trial.

To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?
Friars23 · 25/06/2022 00:16

*sorry typo above, not trial but when Depp sued her.

BlanketsBanned · 25/06/2022 10:29

Where is the money she got from her divorce, presumably in the bank so she can pay out of that, I wonder what aclu and the hospital have agreed to with her pledge, that needs paying too. Maybe she should be out looking for a job.

JamieNorthlife · 25/06/2022 12:37

I think she also made 2 million from Aquaman, $100.000 for other films she discussed during the trial and she was being paid thousands to be a spokesperson for ACLU and other domestic violence associations.

She seems to be good with investments and maybe had some good investment advice.

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 12:40

I read the house in Joshua Tree was put into trust for her daughter so I would assume a lot of it has been taken care of.

Also $1m dollars a year for the last 6 years would be fairly easy to get through without investment with a particular lifestyle.

LetitiaLeghorn · 25/06/2022 14:49

I think she only has to put a bond down for the full amount, not the actual full amount. She just needs a bond company that will stand for her. It shouldn't be that difficult.

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 18:36

Could have said it better myself

medium.com/@christiebrkt/stop-defending-amber-heard-and-telling-me-how-to-be-a-feminist-aed8ca690fff

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 18:49

Couldn't. Sticky hands! Lifelong problem in the summer.... ant tips welcome 😁

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 20:40

Also heard was previously arrested for DV. And DUI. Depp wasn't.

There's a common denominator in life and we can shut out eyes to it because "woman" or we can support survivors.

I'll go with the latter as they are the ones that need us

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 21:03

And I'm also incredibly pissed off the Heards puppet Eve Barlow is conflating her loss with wade v roe

How fucking dare they?

Horrible, horrible women using that.

Friars23 · 25/06/2022 22:07

Sorry @LetitiaLeghorn when I wrote my comment above I missed you had written she got her last payment 13 months before thus showing she got some of it even longer than 13 months before Depp sued her.

LetitiaLeghorn · 25/06/2022 22:44

Yes, @Friars23. She received a first payment of of $2m in early 2017 and then another million in April 2017. Then another million in August 2017. Then half an million in Nov 2017. Then 2.3m on 1 Feb 2018. On top of that, Depp paid the ACLU and the Children's Hospital $100,000 directly. That's the only reason they received as much as they did. After that payment, Heard's counsel told Depp he was to cease payments on her behalf and the money was to go to Heard direct. That's when the donations trailed off.

So she could have donated millions in early 2017.

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 22:53

@LetitiaLeghorn

Yep. That's the truth

Friars23 · 25/06/2022 23:13

Thanks @LetitiaLeghorn, you may have missed or it doesn’t show for some reason that I posted above a screenshot of the divorce settlement payment schedule. It is clear her excuse that she couldn’t pay it due to Depp suing her does not stand up to scrutiny.

Friars23 · 25/06/2022 23:14

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 21:03

And I'm also incredibly pissed off the Heards puppet Eve Barlow is conflating her loss with wade v roe

How fucking dare they?

Horrible, horrible women using that.

Low, extremely low behaviour.

Rabbitholedigger · 25/06/2022 23:24

"Low, extremely low behaviour"

It is. But not surprising.

I couldn't believe that tweet (now deleted) it was Depps fault the roe v wade because, poor Amber.

Jesus wept. They're delusional and shitting on women for their own gain

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