To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

I mean, I know I'm shouting into a void here but....

1. how can Josh Drew be unreliable when he described the scenes in the penthouse, the arguments between Depp and Heard and the bruises on Heards face, and reliable when he says he heard Delavigne, Musk and Heard had a three-some?
2. what could Depps motivation be, for waiving the $10.5 million damages if Heard agreed not to appeal? And if Heard is a gold digger, why didn't she take that offer and keep her $7m? No need to donate it now, if its true she's a gold digger who made up the pledge to look good

@AdamRyan
She lost.
She's embarrassed herself since the verdict.
A court/jury unanimously found her to be a liar
The judge today wasn't having any more of her bullshit

"I mean, I know I'm shouting into a void here but...."

And you're not. Always happy to debate with you.

"2) what could Depps motivation be, for waiving the $10.5 million damages if Heard agreed not to appeal? And if Heard is a gold digger, why didn't she take that offer and keep her $7m? No need to donate it now, if its true she's a gold digger who made up the pledge to look good"

He didn't waive them. Probably because of behaviour since the verdict but that's on her.

I don't know why she didn't take 7 million. Maybe because of her ego and she was damn sure hiding behind the MeToo movement she'd be safe? She's now 10 million in debt. Her fault

Reporting suggested he would waive it if she didn't pursue an appeal.
Why would he make that generous offer? It's almost as if he doesn't want an appeal for some reason 🤔

@AdamRyan it did and I thought he would too. Probably because JD is seen as a generous person (like her friends taking over the penthouses all bills paid - although Josh did offer).

But her behaviour since, doubling down still defaming him he's had enough. It's her fault.

That's nothing to do with my post

I was asking why you believe Drew on some stuff but not other stuff. Seems inconsistent.

I believe him on all of it but also think who she sleeps with is irrelevant if they were separated (or even if they weren't, infidelity isn't a reason to beat your spouse)

Depp would be advised to only waiver the judgement for an agreement to stop the appeal and maybe to cease interviews / statements. That is not going to happen from Ambers side that has already been made clear and in fairness Depp would probably not agree to that if the judgement was reversed.

"I was asking why you believe Drew on some stuff but not other stuff. Seems inconsistent.

I believe him on all of it but also think who she sleeps with is irrelevant if they were separated (or even if they weren't, infidelity isn't a reason to beat your spouse)"

I agree actually, apart from the beating your spouse bit. The infidelity part I don't really care, but getting a TRO and testifying you didn't cheat and his jealousy scares you, is a lie. He wasn't far off the mark.

I think Josh was a credible witness, pity she had to rely on an old deposition and he couldn't be present in Virginia like the rest of her friends weren't either, who are no longer friends with her.

I posting back to you with love as I like debating you 😁

Agree @Boulshired
He's got to be tough now and I'm glad he is being.

Did Depp or his lawyers ever say that? Or was it just speculated on by people in the media? I don't know. But of course he doesn't want an appeal! He just won. Who'd want to go through the risk and cost again? Heard would have felt the same if she'd won. Indeed Bredehoft argued that she the case should have been dropped based on the result of the UK trial so she's already been where depp is now, facing a retrial and she didn't like it either.

I think she said she donated the money so that people would believe her but didn't think that should be necessary. However, she also said that she never wanted the money. Its unclear really what exactly was her feeling about the money. Also, if the house insurance paid her legal bills, I wonder where the settlement money is. Bredehoft said she doesn't have any money.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/johnny-depp-amber-heard-jury-verdict-finalized-without-settlement-2022-6%3famp

Benjamin Chew, an attorney representing Depp, hinted at the possibility of a settlement in an interview with the "Good Morning America" host George Stephanopoulos shortly after the trial. He said Depp might agree to waive the monetary damages in return for Heard promising not to appeal the verdict.

Real victims get believed.

Miss turd got caught out in multiple lies and lost all credibility.
Her stories weren't consistent with the injuries. Makes my blood boil

He said Depp might agree to waive the monetary damages in return for Heard promising not to appeal the verdict.

Thank you for that, @AdamRyan . Does it have to go to judges to see if there are grounds for appeal? Or is a whole new trial in the offing from the start. I wonder how many of their witnesses who all looked beyond fed up for this still to be going on, will actually turn up again? Lol.

"Benjamin Chew, an attorney representing Depp, hinted at the possibility of a settlement in an interview with the "Good Morning America" host George Stephanopoulos shortly after the trial. He said Depp might agree to waive the monetary damages in return for Heard promising not to appeal the verdict"

He did @AdamRyan you are right, and I thought the same too. This was 48 hours after the verdict though, and AH can't stop spouting on MSM her mouth. I'm not surprised they may have changed their minds since.

"Or is a whole new trial in the offing"

No this trial is done and her appeal, after telling the world the judge and jury was wrong. I wish her luck with that.

A new trial will be if JD brings a new defamation suit due to her re defaming him after the verdict. He could but I doubt he can be arsed. He's done. It only feeds her. Any attention, good or bad, feeds her. I think he knows her well enough now.

Personally I think she doesn't have any money because she feels obligated to donate her divorce settlement as promised and she's lost her career so has no income

He won't want to. If he claims she defamed him on the recent interview, that whole binder of evidence would be admissible, plus the therapist who took it.
Depps team managed to get that ruled inadmissible in the original trial and I highly doubt they would want it aired in front of a jury. It starts to stretch credibility to think she planned this from 2012.

@AdamRyan she won't donate. She never intended to. Remember the Guthrie interview "why should I donate to be believed?"

That's why she said it. To be believed.

She's doesn't have the money, unless some fool with money to burn subs her.

She rode on the coat tails of MeToo never expecting the outcome she's got. To lie so blatantly expecting all women to support her, she's failed spectacularly.

She also needs to stop doxxing by proxy and harassing people who disagree with her.

But, Adam, she received $7m and has donated from it less than $1m so far so that leaves $6m somewhere. Originally it was thought that it went to the trial but now it appears the trial was funded by her house insurance? I guess there are a few million sloshing around somewhere but the finances of the rich all seem very obscure.

If this trial is done, rabbit, what is,she appealing? Or is it just your prediction that she won't get a new trial? Who decides?

She very clearly was referring to the "perfect victim" thing, where the donation/pledge was used to say she wasn't a DV victim.
She was saying they shouldn't be linked. I agree with her on that.

"She very clearly was referring to the "perfect victim" thing, where the donation/pledge was used to say she wasn't a DV victim.
She was saying they shouldn't be linked. I agree with her on that."

Disagree. She said donate for years until Virginia when it was apparent she'd donated f@ck all, then she said pledge and the "mortgage" analogy when she'd said for 6 years she'd donated it.

She's not a perfect victim. She's not a victim at all. She said in Virginia she has never said she's a victim but then on MSM after the verdict said she wasn't a perfect victim. It's like whiplash how she changes her story

She can't even keep up with her own lies.

Abusers pick women who won't be believed.
She can't donate the money when she's subject to legal action as it would be potentially criminal. She got the settlement in 2018 and Depp said he was suing in 2019. So she barely had any time to make the donations.
At most she's guilty of being sloppy with language.
Honestly. It's so boring to just go round and round the same stuff.

Her therapist notes open a whole new set of problems, the dates are all over the place, they do not fit the testimony of the uk, never mind the Virgina trial when Amber needed to change her testimony. “You never forget the first time” unless you read your therapist notes during the weeks break and realise you’re a year off. Even if allowed they are still hearsay.

"Abusers pick women who won't be believed.
She can't donate the money when she's subject to legal action as it would be potentially criminal."

She had the money for 13 months before JD sued. She was NOT subject to legal action when the money hit her account unless she could read into the future. She kept it.