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This picture shows a perfect example of women cast aside because of the patriarchal world we live in

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flashbac · 04/06/2022 14:15

Winner's podium of an 'inclusive' 'women's' cycling race.
Biological woman is third.

This picture shows a perfect example of women cast aside because of the patriarchal world we live in
OP posts:
Benjispruce4 · 04/06/2022 15:11

Well I think it’s time women boycott these races to make a stand and somehow create new ones.

SpindleForTheWorld · 04/06/2022 15:14

It's men cheating.

Clymene · 04/06/2022 15:15

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

You think it's crap that men are competing in women's races? Or you don't think this is relevant to anyone except feminists?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/06/2022 15:15

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

I'm sick of the crap you and posters like you post; who do you think you are to police the OP? The title was clear enough. This is a massive issue and if you can't see it then that's a shame for you.

peachescariad · 04/06/2022 15:16

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

...are you dear? That's a shame isn't it

chunkymandarincoulis · 04/06/2022 15:19

FFS. Will we have to start holding events for 'Women without cock and balls'?

ivykaty44 · 04/06/2022 15:22

I mean, what's the bloody point?

there is no point, so if woman stop competing- what then?

will woman’s sports just finish like woman’s football in the 1920s?

ivykaty44 · 04/06/2022 15:23

How about genetic female sports

AngelinaFibres · 04/06/2022 15:25

I don't understand why these biological men aren't embarrassed to be on the podium. The only competition there was between the men who were awarded first and second, but in a women's race. The only real woman in that race didn't stand a chance. Do they think its an achievement to be faster than a person half their size and weight. It's laughable.

WibblyWobblyJane · 04/06/2022 15:25

It would be great if an organization would come along and fundraise to give prizes, sponsorships and scholarships to women that are pushed out of their lose their place because of bio males being allowed to compete.

I would contribute to that.

I have never competed in anything but this would make me want to purposely stand down.

ivykaty44 · 04/06/2022 15:25

Well I think it’s time women boycott these races to make a stand and somehow create new ones.

and then they’ll be called transphobic

they can compete and lose or not compete and be called bigots

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/06/2022 15:27

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TryBeforeIBuy · 04/06/2022 15:28

What's with the kissing?

pigsDOfly · 04/06/2022 15:32

are people celebrating this wilfully blind or what.

That's exactly what they are.

It's the 'emperors new clothes' they won't admit what's glaring obvious i.e. the massive advantages for the trans women, because it doesn't suit their agenda.

Anyone who thinks about this for a second with a logical, impartial mind would see how farcical the whole situation really is.

It's heart breaking for these women who have trained and pushed themselves to the limit to be side lined like this.

Of course the biological men are always going to win.

Makes me so angry and sad that this is what our young women are having to contend with.

That's truly an illistration of women's rights going backward.

SingingSands · 04/06/2022 15:33

Jo Smith has shared this on her Instagram stories.
It was an inclusive event and she was proud to be part of it.
Maybe that's one solution: inclusive racing for those who want to compete under their chosen gender, and traditional sex-separated racing? Or would that be too divisive? Oof, it fries my brain sometimes.

This picture shows a perfect example of women cast aside because of the patriarchal world we live in
Emotionalsupportviper · 04/06/2022 15:33

TryBeforeIBuy · 04/06/2022 15:28

What's with the kissing?

That's what we girlies do, isn't it?

Kiss each other all the time, giggle, and compare our nipple colours?

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/06/2022 15:34

DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-ADE, JO!

You should have won that race - you DID win that race! Demand fairness and justice!

SofiaSoFar · 04/06/2022 15:34

Absolutely disgusting. How can this be allowed?

😡

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/06/2022 15:37

TryBeforeIBuy · 04/06/2022 15:28

What's with the kissing?

'We got away with it!' That's how it reads to me.

It's an absolute disgrace.

pigsDOfly · 04/06/2022 15:38

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

If it makes you so sick then don't bloody read it.

I'm sick of the sort of crap posters like you post but we all have our cross to bear.

itsgettingweird · 04/06/2022 15:38

TheFoxAndTheStar · 04/06/2022 14:36

This sucks. I actually campaigned for years for equality in cycling, from when I raced and the mens race winner got £500, and the female winner got a cake. But this is not at all what I meant by equality.

from the notes on categories in the thunder crit website

Cis-people cannot choose their racing category. Cis-men will race in the Thunder category, cis-women will race in the Lightning category.

Lightning Category

This category is for:

Cis-women
Non-binary people whose physical performance aligns with cis-women
Trans men and women whose physical performance aligns most closely with cis-women

Yet they can't see that they don't most align to cis - woman (I hate that term).

Because if they did then the biological woman would have won.

It's basically a category for the men who can't make it in mens sport because they aren't good enough to compete as a woman via identity and make themselves feel better by winning.

SofiaSoFar · 04/06/2022 15:40

North London Thundercunts Black Metal Bicycle Club

itsgettingweird · 04/06/2022 15:40

I'll also add I find it interesting that trans men and women can compete in the cis - woman's category.

They don't even see the irony that they are admitting that trans men can't compete equally against biological men.

Louise0701 · 04/06/2022 15:41

This is disgusting. Well done to the winner who is stood on the 3rd podium with her child.

PutinIsAWarCriminal · 04/06/2022 15:41

Sums up the phrase "Men on payday, women on awards night."

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