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This picture shows a perfect example of women cast aside because of the patriarchal world we live in

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flashbac · 04/06/2022 14:15

Winner's podium of an 'inclusive' 'women's' cycling race.
Biological woman is third.

This picture shows a perfect example of women cast aside because of the patriarchal world we live in
OP posts:
Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

Rainbowshit · 04/06/2022 14:41

Why is it so hard for people to understand that to be inclusive in sport you have to have exclusive categories?

Otherwise only young males will ever win.

ShirleyPhallus · 04/06/2022 14:42

jacintaq · 04/06/2022 14:29

"jacintaq
I'm not sure what's wrong?

Is it that she has her child with her on the podium, as otherwise isn't it a good thing that women are allowed to compete in the races with men?

Really sums things up beautifully"

🤣

I'm an idiot. I realised immediately after I pressed post.

No I was being serious, it really sums things up beautifully that we have to explicitly point out that this was a woman’s race, then the initial reaction is “oh that’s a mixed sex race”.

Redouble · 04/06/2022 14:42

There really isn't any glory in winning when the odds are stacked overwhelmingly in your favour.

Absolutely - yet they're more than happy to compete. It feels like the polar opposite of sportsmanship and honour.

As long as they're happy, eh?

jacintaq · 04/06/2022 14:43

As an ex athlete (not cycling). I'd be really cross. The men have the biological/physical advantage. I could have beaten some men but not those at a similar age and level.

SpindleForTheWorld · 04/06/2022 14:43

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

I'm not.

Never mind, eh?

Redouble · 04/06/2022 14:44

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

You can hide a thread you don't want to see.

jacintaq · 04/06/2022 14:47

the initial reaction is “oh that’s a mixed sex race”."

It certainly looked like a mixed sex race!

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 04/06/2022 14:49

There is a poll Peaches which currently has a 94% YANBU result.

Rainbowshit · 04/06/2022 14:50

Impier · 04/06/2022 14:37

I've completed where my team has had an unfair advantage over the other teams. As a team we decided to concede our semifinal win so the right teams played in the final. In a similar way I would have hoped for more sportsman like behaviour from the first and second place cyclists in this photo, and for them to let the real competitors in the race past to take the podium positions.

There really isn't any glory in winning when the odds are stacked overwhelmingly in your favour.

Agree. I am captain of a sports team and it'sjust embarrassing when you absolutely wipe the floor with another team. I like to win but it is much more enjoyable to win when you have an opposition that challenges you and it feels like an achievement.

AmericanStickInsect · 04/06/2022 14:50

I find it so sad for both Jo and her daughter. Jo didn't get to have the moment of standing on the first podium holding her daughter, and her daughter didn't get to be held be her Mum on the top spot.
Fucking symbolic of the brave new world thought isn't it. The world women have to accept and little girls get taught is normal.

FlibbertyGiblets · 04/06/2022 14:51

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

Hiya Peonies, which bit of this is the crap you don't want to see? Or do you really mean all of it, you are sick of hearing about men cheating their way to podium wins, maybe?

Flaunch · 04/06/2022 14:53

The biological males are nothing but cheaters and ought to be embarrassed.

Dinosaur975326788900864322456778899900754543 · 04/06/2022 14:53

It was only a matter of time before this happened. Soon there won’t be any females on podiums at all, with male bodied people taking 1st 2nd 3rd place in all races.

flashbac · 04/06/2022 14:55

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

I'm sick of women's concerns being cast aside because they make (some) other people feel uncomfortable. Again, a patriarchal thing that is. Woman STFU is basically what you are saying IMHO.

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OldStyleIntroductions · 04/06/2022 14:55

Identities don't do sport, bodies do. May as well scrap men's and women's separate sports as they are all mixed sex now. Now, how do we go about recognising the best females??

TullyApplebottom · 04/06/2022 14:55

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

And you feel entitled to control what others see and talk about because ….?

ChagSameachDoreen · 04/06/2022 14:56

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

Yeah it's boring isn't it. Yawn. Change the record. Women being sidelined in favour of men. So tedious. Should be in the Feminism section along with all the other boring tedious women's rightsy stuff,

FreeTherapyForTheThickSkinned · 04/06/2022 14:58

flashbac · 04/06/2022 14:37

Jo Smith, with the baby, is the real winner.

She bloody well is. The two men can bog off.

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 04/06/2022 15:00

jacintaq · 04/06/2022 14:24

I'm not sure what's wrong?

Is it that she has her child with her on the podium, as otherwise isn't it a good thing that women are allowed to compete in the races with men?

You got it the wrong way round. The woman who got 3rd place is in the womens race which the first and second place winners entered because they now can.

Tania64 · 04/06/2022 15:00

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Bio women need to stop entering these competitions & instead band together with other bio women wishing to compete in the relevant sport. They can then form their own competetive sports events. No point in hanging around waiting for Governments to reverse their new fangled policies that are only in favour of trans peple.

megletthesecond · 04/06/2022 15:03

It's a bit cheaty isn't it.

cheekyfucker101 · 04/06/2022 15:03

Excuse the pun but did they 'back peddle' on the original ruling that he couldn't compete. Or did they just change the name so they both could slip through the net?

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2022 15:07

I absolutely cannot understand the logic of trangender people competing outside of their biological sex categories. it's quite clearly discriminatory and wrong.

JaneJeffer · 04/06/2022 15:10

Peoniesandpeaches · 04/06/2022 14:40

And where is your AIBU? If there is no question or poll why couldn’t you post this on the feminism board? I’m really sick of all this crap being on the front page.

How embarrassing

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