To say that as the mother of teens who did stick to the rules and whose mental health suffered no I am not over partygate

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I’m steaming angry actually and will be for some time. Particularly given how dire mental health support is for teens and those pushed into nothing at 18.

Getting sick and tired of hearing how tedious partygate is from those that want it to go away. Some of us are still living with it and reliant on services that are overwhelmed with a massive increase in those needing them post lockdown. Teens and kids who would have loved to have get togethers, parties and sit exams but who followed the rules and stayed at home damaging their mental health instead.😡

Sorry about your loss. I know of others that lost parents and many have parents in care homes. Do you really think it would have been better to have visitors in though? I assuming you’d be visiting everyday as you’d not know she was about to die . That’s a lot of visitors if the rules had been different. Can you imagine the acrimony of Covid in a hospital bought in by visitors when schools and businesses were closed?

We all know the rules had to be strict but equally you could see some were contradictory. No mixing households but random supermarket workers, drivers, care staff, politicians all meet up everyday. People were shopping only when essential , others were at it every single day.

Honestly I’ve lost track of the dates to know the rules and what was happening when. However the PM lost his mum, had Covid himself, got married, had kids all following the “set in stone” rules. Work yourself into a tizz but its done, and you vote him out next time round.

Do you really think it would have been better to have visitors in though?

I sat with my mum as she was dying for eight days. With that memory in my head, I honestly wonder how you can ask that question. Of course it’s better for someone who’s dying to have the people who love them with them.

Agree with you entirely. I am so cross with myself and my DH (who was far more rigid with rules than I was so made me stick to them) that I kept my only child locked up and isolated and caused her such trauma and left my mother who lives alone isolated while Boris had leaving dos to 'build morale'. I think we all could have done with some fucking morale.

It passes me off that as that lot were partying I was worried about getting hassle from the police if stopped out of my local area when taking my severely autistic child out for his usual walks. I know people who were stopped and hassled.

Agree. My DCs- teens’ - MH suffered terribly and I’m disgusted with Boris.
I really hope Tories are voted out at the next election - or he needs to go(tbh I’m more interested in getting rid of the Tories en masse.

Thank you x

What good are you doing to yourselves holding into this negativity?will it change the past?will it make everything ok? No,it will not.
What it will do is cause you stress which will put your body and mind under pressure,so who is coming off worse?you are.
By letting go you are winning because you are not allowing what has happened to ruin your health and your today.negativity attracts negativity.
Be constructive,email the relevant offices,do what you can calmly and succinctly,then move on.
If not it will continue to eat away at you and you won't move forward.

It wasn't just the Tories breaking the rules though was it? It was civil servants and senior labour politicians too.

And no, I'm not a Boris Johnson supporter / Tory not / whatever.

It's time to move on. The rules were ridiculous; we should be angry that they were put in place, not at humans who broke the rules and had a few drinks like a large chunk of the people

He outsourced it all to management consultants, I know the people who sorted out the vaccine program (working 18/7 for months to do so) and none of them are called Boris

I also know some of the people involved in this and they certainly were not all management consultants, including some of the leads!

I feel this too.
There'll be plenty of people who go back to their aggressive rule enforcement and servile compliance if there was even a hint of another lockdown.

It wasn't just the Tories breaking the rules though was it? It was civil servants and senior labour politicians too

Who allowed civil servants to break the law? Can you imagine Thatcher or even May allowing that? I don’t think a single Labour politician has been issued with an FPN.

I never said anything about the vaccine? I'm talking about the Ukraine Russia stuff which I think he's handled very well so far.

I'm talking about the Ukraine Russia stuff which I think he's handled very well so far.

What’s he done?

Right but if everyone had someone in - and many families have multiple siblings- can you not see that this would have been really problematic for hospitals and care homes?
Business as usual would have had people up in arms as these institutions had some of the most vulnerable people in.

And you were allowed in with your mother.

I was. She died in November 2015.

@Blossomtoes If Mrs Thatcher or anyone like her had been Prime Minister, at least 20,000 fewer people would have died. As for funerals, I expect outdoor gatherings at gravesides at least would have been permitted a lot sooner so far fewer people would have had funerals without all relatives being able to be there.

I'm not over the fact that people actually voted him in. I mean come on, he's only behaved exactly the same way he has all his life. It was no secret that he was a lying, elitist scumbag who views the working classes with nothing but disdain. If you voted for him then YABU to be upset by partygate.

I completely agree. And there wouldn’t have been drunken gatherings in Downing Street.

@CockSpadget the alternative was Corbin and he’s insane. Boris was the best option of the two but that bar was bloody low!

Care to give facts that prove Corbyn is insane?

Extreme perhaps but Corbyn is far from insane. He absolutely wouldn’t have countenanced drunken gatherings in Downing Street.

What will your anger achieve? Stewing about it will only make you feel worse. You'd do better if you channelled your energies into something of practical use.

It’s not about changing the past. It’s about holding people accountable. It’s about future governments, saying this behaviour will not be tolerated, that no one is above the law

Nope not over it. I know there are many other urgent issues but it is possible for us to be angry/concerned about multiple things as it is for the Gvt to address them. They cannot get away with this.