To say that as the mother of teens who did stick to the rules and whose mental health suffered no I am not over partygate

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I’m steaming angry actually and will be for some time. Particularly given how dire mental health support is for teens and those pushed into nothing at 18.

Getting sick and tired of hearing how tedious partygate is from those that want it to go away. Some of us are still living with it and reliant on services that are overwhelmed with a massive increase in those needing them post lockdown. Teens and kids who would have loved to have get togethers, parties and sit exams but who followed the rules and stayed at home damaging their mental health instead.😡

He outsourced it all to management consultants, I know the people who sorted out the vaccine program (working 18/7 for months to do so) and none of them are called Boris.

As much as I think Boris behaves strangely, I can’t see him locking down the country because of a few screechy people, @lassof

There was little compliance in the 2021 lockdown IIRC.

I was never bothered about it in the first place

A lot of it’s been sensationalised and there own context put on it to shit stir

my dad was in hospital in the first lockdown no visitors and we got call expecting end of call ( he pulled through)
but 100% agree in visitors in hospital and don’t see the Correlation with people that have worked together having a drink it no different than there dinner hour

lassof It wasn’t always a choice. I couldn’t see my gran because she was in a care home and we weren’t allowed in. Not my choice at all. It wasn’t a choice people made to not sit with dying relatives. You were physically prevented from being with them.
To bring it down to ‘You could have chosen to have a party and more fool you if you didn’t’ ignores those who suffered in a far worse way than not being allowed a party.

I will never get over it.

Our young people struggled, older people were left alone, people died alone and they just did whatever the fuck they wanted.

I will never forgive them. I hope they all rot.

Whether you understand it or not, SAGE’s policies saved countless lives. Of course with hindsight there were mistakes, in both directions. Go read the original Ferguson paper to understand what would have happened - tens of thousands of people gasping for breath in hospital carparks around the country, old people dying in their thousands in GP waiting rooms or at home. An apocalyptic spectre that we missed.

I'm not over it. I mean I'm not stewing about it, but I've certainly not forgotten and won't be forgiving.

There haven't been any reports of people in the government illegally breaking school education rules though, have there. This is about socialising.

The fact that private schools kept their shit together and educated their children online while, for example, my child's school sent home a printed booklet on A level maths and refused all other engagement with my child for five months, is a different issue.

I'm extremely pissed off still about that, but apparently a party in Downing Street in much more important as an issue

I'm not concerned about partygate itself but the hypocrisy and the rules themselves are what I'm angry about.
Even if Boris stuck to all the rules himself, we would still suffer the effects of lockdowns, school closures and isolation.
Labour always seemed to be keen for more lockdowns so I'm not sure we would have suffered any less as a society.
Some of this damage is hard to undo but everyone seemed to back lockdowns and no other viewpoint was allowed to be heard without scorn and derision.

It is irritating when people insinuate that it was just you being difficult in insisting on following the rules.

I used common sense. I didn’t run through a nursing home singing, but I traveled further than I ‘should’, didn’t wear a mask on public transport due to nausea and sickness and so on.

I still had to manage alone after an EMCS because of bloody covid though!

The next GE is 2025 I believe. Are people really going to harbour their anger and bitterness for that long? How is that in any way helpful to their own mental health/life? It is harming nobody but themselves and those around them daily. Do you think BJ and the rest of them are going to ruminate over it or being booed? Of course they’re not.

I have let it go because I can see it’s not healthy to ruminate over it and there’s very little I can do about it until 2025. I’m not a half-wit, an idiot or anything else others have thrown out on this thread. There’s no need to direct your anger at people who have been able to let it go. If you have to remain angry then keep it away from people that really don’t deserve it.

No. I couldn’t see the difference either. But Boris said there was a difference. He made that rule. Which meant the staffroom was shut in my school and we were not allowed to socialise after work. I could work with someone all day and not have her back for a cup of tea after work. Boris told me that. So why did he not abide by it? If he didn’t think socialising with someone you’d spent all day with anyway was a big deal, why enforce it on the rest of us?
The children that came to school could be in the same classroom all day but couldn’t go to a playground together after school. Makes no sense - you are right. So why did he put that rule in place? If it was important enough to put the rule in, he should have stuck to it.

I’m not over it but equally it’s not like it consumes every waking minute for me! But I am so disappointed in how low so many peoples standards are when it comes to the prime minister. Why are so many people happy to accept someone who has been proven to lie time after time. Why don’t people want better than that, why aren’t we expecting more from our politicians?!

Today is the second anniversary of my husband's funeral. Due to lockdown regulations he couldn't get the cancer treatment or support he desperately needed.

When he was admitted to hospital via A&E we were forcibly separated by the rules and regulations.

My darling husband died alone, scared and in pain. My children lost their dad much too young.

Am I over partygate? No I'm bloody not and no I didn't vote for the current government.

You cannot divorce school closures from denial of access to socialisation for millions of DC, though. A poster up upthread made a great point about civil servants being granted opportunities for goodbye parties that were never afforded to millions of our children. It's an absolutely essential part of the picture here and nobody is going to fully understand the anger if they don't acknowledge that.

Yanbu. People like you are why the tories are going to be on their way out. Having said that, I find it remarkable that this is what it took but we got here in the end.

Their actions are unforgivable. They seem to assume we all broke the rules, but we didn’t! Working in a hospital I don’t know any colleagues who aren’t disgusted by their behaviour. Staff sat with dying patients and comforted loved ones over the phone. I’m not over it.

YANBU my DC suffered too and I'm not moving on. He lied about this and other things and he will lie again. He cannot be trusted to run our country.

Read the room. Your unasked for cod psychological nonsense isn't having the effect you hoped. Maybe if you want people's anger kept away from you, the onus is on you not to wade into a thread that was obviously going to be full of it.

Also, at least look up when the last general election was.

I'm over it. I think the rules were ludicrous, some people's religious adherence to them was ludicrous (including the Queen sitting alone, which was so unnecessary I found it quite chilling if anything) and Boris' breaking of his own stupid rules is just another aspect of it all. I'm not wasting any more energy on it.

I'm definitely not "over it" in that I believe that Boris Johnson should be removed from the political arena permanently. The man is a proven liar who shows little to no regard for truth, integrity and dignity. He's a boorish oaf, in my opinion.

However, I see no point in allowing my dislike of the man, and the attitudes that he embodies, to affect my own peace and mental wellbeing. Life's too short for that.

Stewing over it won't achieve anything but resentment.

I'm over it - far more important things going on in the world. Mental health services have been crap for decades not just recently.

So some civil servants got a goodbye party, and school children didn't .... what's the real actual issue? The risk for a small group gathering is obviously tiny, particularly as they'd pretty much all had covid anyway by that point. So what's the problem? You just want everyone suffering together? Why? What's the point? Or do you think the rule was not necessary in the first place? In which case, be pissed off with the majority of the UK population for insisting on ever stricter lockdowns.

What has he done well? Vaccines? No that was the NHS, volunteers and civil service.
Ukraine - the visa situation is horrendous and embarrassing.
Brexit - that's going well?!
Cost of living? - Hope you're well off.
Trust in public office. All time low.
Trust in the Police. The same.
The state of the NHS? Dear god.
Teachers morale....
Unless you were already rich things have got decidedly worse under the Tories.

YADNBU.

I’m also still incandescent. It boggles my brain wondering what exactly this sly, overweeningly privileged and entitled cunt needs to do to finally get kicked out of office. Who knew that staged burbling and bed hair could literally bewitch people into thinking you’re harmless and/or well-intentioned? He’s not, and nor does he give even the tiniest shit about anyone but himself - as evidenced by his contempt for his household staff as much as by his barefaced lies and contempt for the public in general.

He’s the Jimmy Savile of politics - a calculating, self-serving POS presenting himself as an avuncular, harmless fool in order to get what he wants - in this case, power, money and a portrait of himself on the Downing Street staircase.

Not only have our teenagers suffered, but the elderly, the bereaved, frontline workers - everyone, in fact, who stuck to the rules (even against their better judgement) whilst the people making the rules carried on doing as they pleased. In some cases whilst actually laughing at us (see Jacob Rees Mogg’s little speech to a packed room).

No, OP, I’ve not forgotten and I certainly won’t forgive.