Permanent exclusion-how do I find a new school that will take an excluded child?

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How do I go about finding my Dd a new school if she's been permanently excluded? How likely are good schools to take her on in year 10 with an appalling attendance and behaviour record? She's very bright and doing very well academically when are bothers to go to class and do the homework. Attendance in in the 60s for this year. Even when she dies go in she is late and/or truants classes.
I have 2 previous threads about the issues she's having but I wanted to ask specifically about new schools without getting detailed.

Is it not up to the LA to find a school?

I think they do unless I can find one that will take her as a managed move.

If it’s a permanent exclusion, the school should provide work until the exclusion is finalised and the local authority will have to find some form of education for her. I think it would be difficult to find another school at this stage of Year 10 and there’s no guarantee that other schools would be able to accommodate GCSE choices.

Her last school might have some suggestions for managed moves. Schools generally aren't keen to take on pupils like that as you can imagine. Otherwise let the LA sort it.

She will get sent to a pupil referral unit, somewhere that deals with pupils who have been expelled from school, it could be miles away from where you live unless you can find a school yourself. The chances of you finding a school are low because most are full or won't take kids that won't behave.

A managed move will be very difficult, for the same reasons. There’s effectively only two and a half terms of GCSE work and it’s unlikely she’d be able to catch up almost two years work.

Can she do a managed move if she's already permanently excluded? As with a managed move you usually go back to your original school if you don't behave, like a 6 week trial for example.

You need to contact the education dept at your council, they can advise what schools have spaces in your area.

Your best bet is to see what the LA come up with. Maybe there’s a college course, that she could combine with Maths and English GCSE.

Fuck. She thinks she can waltz into another school with no issue. Her dad seems to think the same. There are two pupil referral units in the area that I know of.

Has she already been excluded? If not you can ask for a managed move to another school IF the current school will work with you/her on that, or you can apply for an in year move to another school, without involving her current school in that process. These things can only happen before she’s excluded though, I think (but not 100%) that once a child is excluded, it's difficult to transition to another school and a PRU will be offered.

FWIW we moved our ds in Yr10 and it can be done (he hadn't been excluded, so I don't really know much about the options open to you once that's happened though)

If she's been permanently excluded the LA has a duty to provide full time education from the sixth day after the exclusion. You're past the stage for a managed move, that usually happens as an attempt to avoid exclusion. It may be a PRU, and it's worth looking at it with an open mind as some are very good.

It was 20+ years ago, but I was excluded from school and my only option was a PRU.

If she goes to a PRU she has to be referred by her current school as it costs loads more money for the LA.

If she lived in my area no chance of another school as they are full to over flowing and even under the Fair Access Protocol we struggled to get any school to take my DSD.

We have looked at colleges locally as DSD has issues and basically they can only take 4 GCSEs and thats with fully attending in the first place.

Maybe you should get Dad to make a few phone calls to other schools and see how the land lies?

The la will find a new school it will more than likely be a pupil referral unit.
When my dd was permanently excluded no other school would take her. So the la organised for her to go to a Pru.

It's really unlikely that she'll be able to start again at another school if she's been excluded, have her current school not worked with you/her/her dad to explain that? A managed move should have been offered as an option long before you got to this stage.

It is possible that she will be provided with some sort of alternative education package that comprises some tutoring for GCSE subjects mixed with attendance at alternative education providers/vocational training. Your best bet is to get onto your LA team and cooperate with them as much as you can to secure the best outcome for your DD.

Why was she permanently excluded? Will it definitely be upheld by the governors?

Why was she permanently excluded? Will it definitely be upheld by the governors?

Going by OPs other threads I can't see the decision being changed.

My DH is a Governor and sits on permanent exclusion panels. It is really a last resort.
It is the LA that finds the next school.
Who will take them next depends A little bit on why they were excluded.
You could try applying directly but you would need to disclose exclusion so a very unlikely option.
Good luck!

Do not discount PRUs as an option if offered by the LA. They can be great (a matter of luck, to some extent)

Then they are both going to get a rude awakening.

A PRU is probably going to be the only option for her now, some are really good but I guarantee she will grow up very quickly
Schools have been run as businesses for years now IMO, they are not going to take the chance of her bringing their figures down, attendance /parental complaints /exam results etc
Sad but true

If she is “deemed suitable for mainstream education”, then she will be eligible for referral to the Fair Access Protocol. The DFE guidance on FAPs is online, so read what it says about twice excluded and challenging behaviour. Your LEA’s FAP should also be online.

I've seen your other threads, op, you're in a horrendous situation. You really need to be handing it over to her Dad to manage now.

I do know two quite devout Christian schools that accepted excluded pupils, but in those cases the pupil was remorseful. Basically if dd is up for asking for forgiveness and a second chance you mind find a religious school open to the idea.

Otherwise ask the LA what to do. For major behaviour issues I’ve read that a pupil referral unit is nicer for the child as they get more individual attention