To think male violence will never end?

[YouAreNotBatman]

I was reading the news about 14 year old boy raping and killing a 10 year old girl and I just became so tired.
So tired of endless violence boys and men do to girls and women.
And how they don’t care, they seem to think it’s funny or get angry at any woman who try and speak about it.

Will violence by men stop, probably not bother neither will violence women.

We can wait and cry and say how awful the world is but in the end these are the young people we raised with the manners znd behaviour we installed in them.

Bah! We need an edit

Probably not but neither will violence by women

👆🏼What did I say??

Well at least MRA’s are to make everything better!

*are here

Will violence against people ever end? Nope. Never. There will always be violence. We couldn't stop doing it back when there were only a few million people on earth, you think you can control 7billion? Never in a million years will it stop.

Ignoring User's utter nonsense.... 🙄

OP, I hear you. It's unbelievably depressing. Violence against women and girls is just not taken seriously enough, it's so endemic that it's like background music. There, but so many people just don't really notice it. So many excuses made for boys treating others badly, from very young ages. Not enough nurture and praise for boys who are sensitive and shy. Ongoing bullshit about 'typical' boys and men, as if violence, selfishness, callousness and cruelty are a natural part of being male. I don't blame you for despairing

Most violent crime, terrorism and rape is by men.
So the problem is men.
Not people, or women.

Sure, we can avoid the problem as long as we want, but then nothing will ever change, I assume this is what you want, then?

I'm just looking forward to the day when men swarm around to vociferously defend women - on any topic, really. But they just couldn't be arsed.

Unfortunately male violence has always and will always be. As long as there is violence, there will be people trying to compete, and men will often be the strongest.

Start a thread about it then. But don't use 'whataboutery' when male violence is being discussed

OP, I'm with you. It's sickening to read about, day in, day out. I'd like to think that one day it will change, as we have seen many cultural changes in societies over time, but it's very slow! All we can do is raise our sons to be nonviolent and to respect women, and let our law-makers and enforcers know that this is a huge problem and that we are not willing to accept it.

It's fucking exhausting though!

Let's change the record and talk about female violence on men for a change. It's rarely mentioned and all we ever hear about is poor women. Very irritating!

Have you started a thread about violent women? If you haven't then maybe you should because I agree, male victims of domestic violence need help and support.

But what I tend to see happen a lot is someone complains about the lack of discussion about violent women on threads like this, where a girl being raped and murdered and a wider discussion about male violence towards women and girls, is someone jumps in with not all men, or complains that violent women abusing men is rarely mentioned when they aren't even bothered enough themselves to start threads.

I'd happily take part in a thread about male domestic violence victims, it could include links to charities and fund raising events for male refuges, how to spot the signs a man might be being abused by his female (or indeed male) partner and ways to support him through it. If you have started a discussion like this please drop a link and I'll take a look.

If you aren't starting the discussions you want to hear about and only complain that you don't hear much about violent women abusing males on threads about male violence then it makes you look you just want to shut women up.

I love the idea that violent men and boys are because their mamas have raised them violent.

Nothing to do with their dad's of course

Spot on
valid point, worth a thread, but not this one. Start a new one and I’m sure it’ll be an interesting debate.
let this thread be about what it’s about.

I thought when the pp said ‘we’ she meant people in general/parents? I didn’t think she meant mothers only…

OP I agree ,sympathise and support you, but given the first few replies... I honestly can't.
Too tired.

FRO with your whataboutery.

OP your entire point is being proven on this thread. It will never end because people don’t even want to discuss it.

It’s all our fault, you know and we really must just be nice and think about the poor men.

Well, when the overwhelming majority of women have become more dominant, aggressive, powerful, taller, heavier, stronger and more testosterone-fuelled than men, perhaps it will come to an end naturally. Until then...

Not while we raise boys to think that they have a right to women’s bodies.

One of the really obvious things coming to light in the last decade is that even very liberally minded men are misogynists at heart. Because if pushed they default to the age old method of suppressing women- talking over and about them about them.

I find I am very jaded now about the possibility of equality. Because men will not give up the power they have over women.

It is true that there is little support for male victims of domestic violence and it does seem to be 'swept under the carpet' to a degree.

Yes - I agree that the vast majority is the other way around and men are the most violent. But there are male victims out there that are not supported.

Male violence against women exists
Male violence against men exists
Female violence against women exists
Female violence against men exists

This thread is about male violence against women.

Please feel free to start a thread about Female violence against men.

(Glibly) It's like starting a thread sharing vegetarian or vegan recipes and coming on and complaining that meat eaters exist and why aren't we all sharing meat based recipes.

I don't think it will change as violent raping and murdering is very much an abnormal thing, there will always be people that are messed up in one way or another, whether that is through sexual deviance- eg fucking oneself up via porn, personality disorders, psychopaths, sociopaths, etc etc and hormonal and chemical imbalances, brain defects (eg brain damage from accidents can in cases damage parts of the brain that allow empathy or that would regulate aggression)

This is in no way to remove responsibility or to say that all people with such issues go on to offend, but the propensity to do so is enhanced imo.

And then you have the effect that abuse and trauma can have and that violence breeds violence. We end up in a vicious cycle. Women and children are often the victim because of their physical size, the fact that they can be easily overcome creates opportunity.