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To think male violence will never end?

672 replies

YouAreNotBatman · 04/05/2022 15:26

I was reading the news about 14 year old boy raping and killing a 10 year old girl and I just became so tired.
So tired of endless violence boys and men do to girls and women.
And how they don’t care, they seem to think it’s funny or get angry at any woman who try and speak about it.

OP posts:
brookstar · 07/05/2022 11:33

I've never tried to minimise it.
I'm afraid it has come across as you trying to minimise it. The whole 'whataboutery' does exactly that.
You might not have meant to but that's exactly how it comes across 🤷🏼‍♀️

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:34

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:29

Hang on brook.

I've never tried to minimise it.

@Pumperthepumper , I'm glad you dont give "two shits" what I think. I wonder if its because I've presented you with something that points out to you in black and white that it's a complicated issue.

No you haven’t. You’ve taken one relationship and refused to believe one half of the account of it.

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:36

@stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou your rape apologist post has been deleted, I’m delighted to say.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:46

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:36

@stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou your rape apologist post has been deleted, I’m delighted to say.

Eh? which one?

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:47

I'm sure that was down to a gleeful report by you Pumper but I didn't actually apologise or excuse rape....why on earth would I as a woman with numerous female friends and family...pretty shameful move from you.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:49

brookstar · 07/05/2022 11:33

I've never tried to minimise it.
I'm afraid it has come across as you trying to minimise it. The whole 'whataboutery' does exactly that.
You might not have meant to but that's exactly how it comes across 🤷🏼‍♀️

But its not.

It's looking at the root cause.

If people genuinely want to believe that the world is full of evil men waiting to pounce, and that's all there is, fair enough. As I said earlier in the post, sometimes there are genuinely evil abhorrent men (You know that better than anyone, and I appreciate your bravery on here.

But despite Pumper's pretty disgusting attempt to claim I excuse rape, the reason I brought Heard/Depp to the table was to show what can happen as the result of a terrible, toxic relationship. And there's thousands of them across the world, which encompass male violence.

We can stick our fingers in our ears and present women as pure victims and men as pure evil, and as I will say again in the case of yourself then yes, but is that the case each and every time?

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:50

I did report it - saying you don’t believe rape victims is the epitome of rape apology. I’m glad to see it’s away.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:51

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:34

No you haven’t. You’ve taken one relationship and refused to believe one half of the account of it.

Now now Pumper.

That isn't what happened, is it?

Although I'm "delighted" to say I will be having no more interactions with you, given that you are an abhorrent poster who tried to imply I apologise for, excuse or think rape is OK.

In all the years I've been on MN that is the most disgusting post I've ever come across.

But well done you, you're so very 'right'.

I draw the line at that.

Don't bother replying. I won't be responding.

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 11:52

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:51

Now now Pumper.

That isn't what happened, is it?

Although I'm "delighted" to say I will be having no more interactions with you, given that you are an abhorrent poster who tried to imply I apologise for, excuse or think rape is OK.

In all the years I've been on MN that is the most disgusting post I've ever come across.

But well done you, you're so very 'right'.

I draw the line at that.

Don't bother replying. I won't be responding.

You said you didn’t believe he raped her. That’s why it was deleted. Such a coward!

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:58

Goad away, Pumper. You've had your moment in the sun and I draw the line at you. You are without a doubt the most abhorrent poster I've ever come across. This will be my last line of interaction,

I hope one day you look back and remember what you accused real women with family and friends of and are ashamed of yourself.

I will be hiding this thread until you've found someone else to interact with in such a disgusting away behind a computer screen.

and I'm the coward.

Remember earlier in the thread where I reacted badly to someone telling me to fuck off because I hated swearing on threads? You will know how deeply disgusted I am as I repeat that sentiment back at you.

And don't bother in my absence re quoting me and discussing it with others like you usually do. If I see that, I will report each and every one and formally complain to MN about your behaviour. I expect the line to be drawn here and no more interactions to or about me.

brookstar · 07/05/2022 11:59

We can stick our fingers in our ears and present women as pure victims and men as pure evil, and as I will say again in the case of yourself then yes, but is that the case each and every time?

Again, nobody has actually said this!!!

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 12:00

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 11:58

Goad away, Pumper. You've had your moment in the sun and I draw the line at you. You are without a doubt the most abhorrent poster I've ever come across. This will be my last line of interaction,

I hope one day you look back and remember what you accused real women with family and friends of and are ashamed of yourself.

I will be hiding this thread until you've found someone else to interact with in such a disgusting away behind a computer screen.

and I'm the coward.

Remember earlier in the thread where I reacted badly to someone telling me to fuck off because I hated swearing on threads? You will know how deeply disgusted I am as I repeat that sentiment back at you.

And don't bother in my absence re quoting me and discussing it with others like you usually do. If I see that, I will report each and every one and formally complain to MN about your behaviour. I expect the line to be drawn here and no more interactions to or about me.

Sure, we’ll see. You’ve backed yourself into a corner with one last illogical angle and you’ve no way back but to flounce.

Remember the advice I gave you earlier when you name change for your next go at this conversation.

Supersee · 07/05/2022 12:04

I don't think I've ever been involved in a 'discussion' where someone has so spectacularly missed the overall point of it, and repeatedly so @stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 12:04

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 12:00

Sure, we’ll see. You’ve backed yourself into a corner with one last illogical angle and you’ve no way back but to flounce.

Remember the advice I gave you earlier when you name change for your next go at this conversation.

There is nothing in this world that would entice me to speak to you again, and I won't be name changing.

I deleted my account because of something in my life and came back time later when I was ready. You see, unlike you hanging around MN like the school bully waiting for someone to pick on, I have other things happening in my life. I'm just glad to see your wee gang seems to have deserted you. It must upset you that your powers of enticing pile ons have disappeared over the years.

I will be back, to have the conversation with genuine people, like brooks, and others.

You can take your advice and shove it.

I'm only hiding it because if I say what I want to say to you I'll be permanently deleted.

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 12:07

@stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou back already?

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 07/05/2022 12:10

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 12:07

@stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou back already?

😴

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 12:14

And still replying to me 🤣

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 07/05/2022 19:33

I'm just glad to see your wee gang seems to have deserted you

nah

A) pumper can take care of themselves

B) any dissenting comment and you react by accusing people of piling on, aggression or witch hunts…its not worth the aggro

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 07/05/2022 19:35

Although gang is a bit silly…

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 21:22

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer Rufus, how are you doing? I was just thinking I hadn’t seen you about for a while!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 07/05/2022 21:28

Lurking pumper always lurking 😀

All good here…how ‘bout you?

Pumperthepumper · 07/05/2022 21:37

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 07/05/2022 21:28

Lurking pumper always lurking 😀

All good here…how ‘bout you?

😂 glad to hear it! All fine here, ticking away and all that 👍

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