That beauty ‘trends’ are trying to make us all look like sex dolls?

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As the subject line says - beauty standards / trends are just so… Unprogressive? Is that a word?

Huge exaggerated eyes with flicked eye-liner, contoured to death cheeks and tiny noses and overdrawn lips that look ready for a porn-shoot BJ (or lip-filler if you can afford it). Almost all young women have long hair as well, no interesting hairstyles.

Obviously I’m generalising, but it’s just so fucking boring. The Kardashians have a lot to answer for.

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!

Woah, this is one of the most misogynistic things I’ve ever read on Mumsnet.

Once again reducing women to the sum of their appearance. The madonna-whore dichotomy is alive and well.

This is a really disgusting, mean-spirited thread.

@ZealAndArdour
Amen!!!!

SnipSnipMrBurgess
You talk about how misogynistic the beauty trends are but this thread is worse

Blow job lips
Dressed like hookers
Teenager baby sitters that look like porn stars
Sex dolls

Is that what you have reduced women who have different make up styles to you as?

Exactly.

• a some man said pumped up lips look like a vulva (ie a man said it so it must be true) 🙄.

It surely isnt just women on this thread? I suspect not

Some of the responses sound as if they're from rough porn obsessed men with an unhealthy interest in focusing on a particular type of young woman. Its all they 'see'.

I think this thread will be gone in a few hours its just slack talk isn't it

Men in the workplace, in relationships and in politics should respect women. No qualifiers.

You are victim blaming @FlowerArranger. Making women responsible for the behaviour of men.

I wasn't just talking about your face.

Aren't you delightful? I don't consider my personality to be "dull as dishwater" and am wondering just what it is that makes you such a sparkling personality. As to being "overlooked", or "sad" you know nothing about me. I think that women who follow the above mentioned trends must be very lacking in self esteem to want to look so ridiculous.

As a professional makeup artist (not a girl doing it as weekend thing lol) - none of these trends are new, they have been around for decades, although they are very exaggerated now. To the point they are borrowing techniques from drag queens. Also social medial & YouTubers spread so many bad techniques. To me makeup should enhance natural beauty.

the link posted is actually quite mild to most of it - with the colour choices it looks editorial, and is actually executed very well. I like it. Wouldn’t wear it, but again it’s editorial.

all these techniques are to makes eyes bigger, rose bud lips etc is to look more youthful / infantile and as are the generalised beauty standards - granted most people miss the mark and actually age themselves

personally I wear makeup because I love it, to me it is an art form and self expression that makes me feel great. Pretty sure most men prefer more natural but I don’t give a hoot.

This whole threads reeks of misogyny and racism. It's gross.

Yep, the young girls around here (one of my daughters included) go from naturally beautiful girls to drag queens when they go out. False lashes, extreme fake tans, contouring. And once they're a bit older they get lip fillers (which are beyond creepy). Even the white teeth bit is so extreme it looks odd.

But it isn't something they do for guys because most guys don't like it, it is fashion.

But if you look back through history there has always been a fashion in looks that many of us followed. The 80s with the perms, the mullets, the bright eye shadow and the frosted lips, then the extreme dynasty suits with the shoulder pads and big earrings. Before that the 70s, then the 60s with the beehives and the strong make up and so on.

Where is the racism?

Men in the workplace, in relationships and in politics should respect women. No qualifiers. You are victim blaming @FlowerArranger. Making women responsible for the behaviour of men.

Men should do a lot of things, but in the real world they rarely do. Besides I could not respect a woman who turns herself into some kind of baby doll. Some young women seem to be regressing, after all the decades of work feminists put in to ensure women are taken seriously.

@ZealAndArdour 🙌🏻 Yes!

This thread is vile.

What is remarkable is that it is British women (and possibly some American women in the media) who follow these trends. Ditto previous daft trends.
Strange

Also some South American countries but I don't think it's so extreme.

I think Angelina Jolie started the lip filler craze. Not her, herself as hers are natural. But the craze started when she became famous. And looks what poor Meg Ryan did to herself and Leslie Ash. You think that would be a lesson to people.

Lip filler = baboons arse
Eyebrows = drag queen

So many pretty young girls ruining their faces, I can't wait for this mania to end. And whats wrong with smiling for a photo any more? Stupid trout pouts Al over social media.

Where I live they are either wearing prairie dresses or ripped boyfriend jeans with trainers and hair cut shorter on one side than the other. I do see too heavily made up eyebrows but the lips seem mostly normal. I guess that the fillers haven't caught on yet in my village.

I've always thought that most girls and young women use to much skin make up. Most really don't need it yet.

Really? Where are you then because I can assure you the fashion for girls and women round here is still caked up to the nines.
Up to them of course but along with the false eyelashes I think it’s a regressive and misogynistic look, yes.

Saw three wee girls on a bench having a slushie together in the park a couple of days ago. They were maybe 12…all wee and skinny like children are, but each had straightened hair, a cropped top and set of false eyelashes on. They looked stupid and vulnerable and I’m sad that their parents allow it.

Yes, I have noticed lots of young women with lip fillers and I never saw that before. It isn’t a good look in real life, maybe better in photos/on screens. I think it is a result of people having spent too much time in lockdowns having to look at their own face on screens. It won’t remain fashionable though. Nothing ever does.

@FlowerArranger

Besides I could not respect a woman who turns herself into some kind of baby doll. Some young women seem to be regressing, after all the decades of work feminists put in to ensure women are taken seriously.

It’s mad that you care so much about the feminists of the past, when you, yourself are an agent of the patriarchy. Clearly you have no insight into that though.

Yes! Thank you! Maybe it depends what you read and who you hang around with but the teen in my life is very much about "natural" make up.

Seems like 50% of women I know have had something 'done' to their face or body, Filler, tattooed brows or boobs. I live in a semi rural village, rub shoulders with school mums and 30-50 yr old women... not living the high life in the city with Instagram obsessed people. Sometimes I think its sad that they 'gave in' to someone else's ideal, sometimes I think 'one life, whatever makes you happy'... but is it like buying a new top, a temporary thrill followed by adding something else to the shopping list? Undoubtedly we will always 'aspire' to force-fed celeb lifestyles, just the media obsessed world we live in today. It would be lovely to turn it off for 10 years and see what happens!

But sometimes I wonder if I'm trailing behind having had hair colour done once in 3 years and a few sets of gel nails for weddings etc... i wonder if old chicken pox marks can be filled and I look at my chest after 4 pregnancies and bfing for 4+ years and think, wow id have zero confidence using a communal changing room and do try to hide even with husband, to me they don't look like a 31 year olds boobs. I justify these thoughts by telling myself it would just be having them 'put back' or 'fixed' to how they would be before but then I remember that I'm responsible for being the best example I can be to my children and I feel guilty for even considering surgery for myself that puts my health at risk and suggests I'm somehow broken, when I tell my eldest daughter to get off youtube and stop watching videos of models and influencers because I don't like what they're selling her at 8yrs old!!

Patiently waiting for natural beauty to come back around... save pain and money. And for youtube to crash permanently.

Glad I came through teenage years with only poorly lit photos as the lasting evidence of overplucked eyebrows and pink/blue eyeshadow combos that looked fit for a cruise ship entertainer. If I had been brave/stupid enough then I'd now be cursed with a collection of shit star tattoos and baggy earlobes.

I'm not sure they are using the look to attract men, it's more to appeal to their friends and to emulate some online influencers.

That's a bit rude. They want to dress like that and they are business women so they were dressed like business women

This look isn’t something massively prevalent in my area so I’ve only really seen it on SM. I think hair and make-up is a personal matter and following trends and making changes is fun. I had very colourful eye-shadows in the 80’s - all the rainbow colours. Having cosmetic procedures that are more permanent is a different matter and presumably more difficult to update when fashions change. ( a bit like those tattoos at the base of the spine that were so fashionable). There is a world of difference between what is described and the natural curves and beautiful lips of black women. Otherwise some of the comments are unnecessary. Nobody is lesser because of their cosmetic choices ( certainly no more interesting)