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to not tell anyone about my ‘legal wedding’?

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ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 09:42

I should be so happy, but I’m so upset by my family’s reaction. I know MN is usually well in favour of the married couple to be doing whatever they wish, but just really want to vent and hear some similar stories. I want to preface this by saying I am my parents only child.

Me and my fiancé are due to welcome our baby girl in June after miscarriages and general misery. This pregnancy is going well and I am feeling a bit more hopeful each day that we will meet her. We really wanted to be married and have a lovely small family wedding before DC, but the first pregnancy was unplanned and stuck us on the TTC treadmill as we tried to regain what we had lost. We thankfully have, and now marriage is back on the cards. Before it stopped being a priority as the only thing I cared about was being pregnant again.

Now I am and we definitely want to get married before the baby is born. First and foremost, we want to be a legal family and cement that before she is here. Practically, we are also worried about the medical aspects of not being each other’s next of kin (particularly if anything goes wrong at birth). My partner is also a foreign national and if we are not married at birth it is notoriously difficult for her to get his citizenship without a lot of paperwork and expense. Financially too, he is worried about me being a SAHM and not having the legal protections of marriage, particularly if he died before we planned a wedding.

So we booked a registry office for next month and have given notice to marry. This would be our ‘legal’ wedding in jeans and trainers, just tick off all of the above. Our witnesses will be two friends. No one else.

I don’t want family there because I am still not very well and I’m terrified that something will happen to my baby. If my family are there then that ceremony becomes my wedding day and it will be forever tainted. Also, my fiancé’s family are not able to travel at the moment and I do not want my MIL and FIL to feel excluded. This ceremony is our legal protection together. Nothing more.

We do want a wedding though. Next year we are then going to take our family and friends on a destination wedding blessing next year and have bridesmaids, a cake, speeches and a nice party. When I am hopefully happier and in a better mental place after my daughter arriving safely.

I told my mother my plans (not set dates, just intentions) and she was furious and unkind. She is usually a lovely, non-toxic person. In her eyes, the vows are the most important thing and she is will be heartbroken if she doesn’t see them. She told me that if I am just going to see my marriage as a piece of paper, then I may as well bin my engagement ring and get a plastic one Confused

She eventually calmed down and sent me a text saying that she was sad, but I needed to do what was right for my family. I though this was her blessing and tried to talk to her a little more ‘would you like to know when we book somewhere?’ ‘Would you like pictures?’ but she quickly got angry and asked to be there. I explained all of the above, and she still didn’t get it and pulled faces. I have tried to get her excited about our ceremony next year, asking about bridesmaid’s dresses and planning dress shopping, but she rolled her eyes and said if my destination wedding guest list was so small then there was no point.

I’m at a loss of what to do. She keeps asking me about it but everything I say upsets her. I’m currently in the mindset that I want to just say “we’re not doing that because of how you have acted” but just go and do it anyway. And to tell no one. This is actually what my dad has advised…

But it just feels so untruthful Sad I’m so excited to be married and this just feels like something else (like my pregnancy) that has been ruined.

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Palavah · 11/04/2022 09:51

Im sorry for your losses.

For many (most?) people the vows are the wedding. Not the dress or the cake or the bridesmaids. That's why your mother is so upset not to be invited to your wedding. That's not a niche view.

Why do you think that having family at your wedding will mean it's tainted?

ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 09:53

@Palavah

Im sorry for your losses.

For many (most?) people the vows are the wedding. Not the dress or the cake or the bridesmaids. That's why your mother is so upset not to be invited to your wedding. That's not a niche view.

Why do you think that having family at your wedding will mean it's tainted?

Because if my baby dies, which is a really real fear of mine- then that was my wedding day with my family. Not a legal ceremony. For me, having family there makes it a wedding.

There will still be vows next year, and my fiancé already lives out those vows to me everyday.

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Dinoteeth · 11/04/2022 09:55

Op forget the destination wedding - have a very small two friends, both sets of parents and go for dinner.
Save yourself a fortune

45redballoons · 11/04/2022 09:56

I think your approach is very sensible, but if it upsets her that much, would there be any harm in inviting her and having 3 witnesses? Your inlaws would surely understand.

Christienne · 11/04/2022 09:57

OP

DH and I sis the same (albeit for different reasons). Got married at a register office, no family, big event later with the rest, cake etc.

I can’t comment on how to handle your family as ours, thankfully were understanding about what we did and why

But I just wanted to say 1. You’re not unreasonable for doing what you want and please try not to feel bad about your plans. Just go away and do it quietly. No one needs to know and if you ever feel guilty don’t - if they were supportive of your understandable plans, there’d be no need for any secrecy.

and 2. I know you didn’t ask this, but we don’t regret for a moment how we got married, many years on.

Wishing you lots of luck with your wedding and upcoming birth of your daughter.

ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 09:57

@Dinoteeth

Op forget the destination wedding - have a very small two friends, both sets of parents and go for dinner. Save yourself a fortune
We want a destination wedding Confused we want a nice wedding day abroad in a country that means so much to us. It was always the plan.

If you are suggesting that as an alternative to our registry office thing, we can’t have the quiet dinner with families before the baby is born. My PILs can’t travel right now. It’s not fair to exclude them because of my mother’s feelings.

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ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 09:59

@45redballoons

I think your approach is very sensible, but if it upsets her that much, would there be any harm in inviting her and having 3 witnesses? Your inlaws would surely understand.
Their daughter eloped and it caused a family rift, so it really wouldn’t.

My ILs completely understand why we are doing the ‘paperwork’ before baby and don’t see this as a wedding they are excluded from. If my parents get to come and they don’t, they might change their minds.

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GinPalace2 · 11/04/2022 10:01

Stop trying to discuss it, and the blessing, with your mum.

Just go and get married, all the reasons listed are valid.

Once your baby is here then start discussing the plans for the blessing.

The bottom line is that it is your and your DPs choice how and when you get married. However, choosing to exclude parents etc. is in many cases likely to cause some hurt. Continually trying to discuss your wedding with people who aren’t invited is hurtful and a little selfish as you are rubbing salt into the wound.

LagunaBubbles · 11/04/2022 10:01

Regardless of what you call it the first time is your wedding day. I am sorry you are so anxious but I dont get why you wouldn't want your Mum there?

PicaK · 11/04/2022 10:02

Tell her you've changed your mind.
Do it
Keep it secret. Don't burble on about details and photos etc.
Have the wedding when you want.

GeneLovesJezebel · 11/04/2022 10:02

I agree, the legal part is the wedding . I can see why she is upset.
However, it’s your life and your choice, so how about a christening and marriage blessing, at the same time in the future, and have a party then.

MySecretHistory · 11/04/2022 10:03

Honestly- it would be a destination party and people would be pretty annoyed if they spent a fortune attending and it was just a party.

The vows are the bit that matter. The rest is just fluff.

We had some friends got married- just them and their parents on Thursday. By Friday lunchtime they were all toasting the babies head (2 weeks early). Almost ended up being the same day. They all love this.

When you baby is safely here you may feel very different.

hulahooper2 · 11/04/2022 10:03

I would be devastated if my dd got married without me there , and I don’t think it’s right to expect family and friends to spend money on a destination non-wedding . Maybe just do a party here.

Georgeskitchen · 11/04/2022 10:04

Your way sounds fine. It's your life and don't be forced by relatives into something you don't want. A huge wedding before baby comes will be a massive stress you don't need.
Get married, get baby here safely then start thinking about an event next year
Good luck!!

ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 10:05

@MySecretHistory

Honestly- it would be a destination party and people would be pretty annoyed if they spent a fortune attending and it was just a party.

The vows are the bit that matter. The rest is just fluff.

We had some friends got married- just them and their parents on Thursday. By Friday lunchtime they were all toasting the babies head (2 weeks early). Almost ended up being the same day. They all love this.

When you baby is safely here you may feel very different.

We are paying for everything- so this isn’t a concern at all.
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gogohm · 11/04/2022 10:05

The wedding is your legal vows, everything else is just a party. Why not ask both sets of parents and go out for lunch?

MySecretHistory · 11/04/2022 10:07

We are paying for everything- so this isn’t a concern at all.

Of course it is a concern
Time off work- most people have limited holiday and would rather spend it doing something they choose
Are you paying for passports, clothes, airport parking etc etc

ItsSnowJokes · 11/04/2022 10:07

Stop telling her! Go and do it and keep your mouth shut.

MySecretHistory · 11/04/2022 10:08

@ItsSnowJokes

Stop telling her! Go and do it and keep your mouth shut.
But don't pressure her to attend the overseas do
ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 10:09

Just because to clarify- people are getting distracted with the destination wedding.

This is how we always wanted to get married.
The country is meaningful to us.
This was the plan before the miscarriages.
This is how we want to get married.
We are paying for everything, I mean everything.

Please don’t derail saying this shouldn’t happen- this is how our wedding has always wanted to be and our parents have known about this.

Unfortunately baby loss hell hasn’t made me want to chuck on my sunglasses and Panama hat and get going.

I won’t be able to enjoy anything until my daughter is here safely.

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TakeYourFinalPosition · 11/04/2022 10:09

Just be open about it. I know a couple who did this. They did an abroad wedding where the brides family was from, and a small ceremony in England where her husband is from and they live. Neither was the legal wedding, they’d done that a few weeks before in secret. People found out at the reception, it caused drama.

For some people, the wedding is the vows and legal part, so be upfront with them that this has been done. They’ll care, so don’t withhold the information. It might be the jeans and trainers practical bit to you, but it’s also your actual wedding day.

For everyone else, they won’t care; so it won’t matter that they know. They’ll come and celebrate your ceremony anyway, even though you’ll be actually married. If you hold it on the same date, it’ll still be on your anniversary, too.

You’ll never know who is who, or be able to keep it secret anyway - your wedding date is public record, and people will buy your certificate, it always baffles me how many people bought ours after we got married in 2020… and ours was a strange Covid wedding!

Make your decision, be upfront and open about it, let everyone else make their choices. Right now you’re fighting for two conflicting situations, and you can’t have both. It sounds like you’re happy with your current choice, so now you just need to accept that you can’t force other people to share your view that the first wedding isn’t the “proper” one… it is, but the second is perfectly worth celebrating, and most people will share that opinion and come and celebrate anyway, subject to all the other caveats about destination weddings. You’ll reduce your stress tenfold if you accept that.

For what it’s worth, I do think the legal bit is worth doing in your situation, so I’d either be doing the legal ceremony and celebrating on our first anniversary or going to wherever MIL is and having your ceremony there, even if it’s not the day you initially wanted.

Best of luck for your baby & your day.

ifyouturnonthelight · 11/04/2022 10:11

But the party isn't a wedding is it? You might have been married for a year by that point. So people are coming to watch you say how's you said a year previously? Weird

ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 10:11

The destination is a long weekend, our guests have leave and passports. It’s 14 people. Please stop inventing problems where there aren’t any.

I know MN doesn’t anything that shows wealth- but money really isn’t a problem here and people will be compensated for attending. I’m not really going to comment on it any more.

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Radziwill · 11/04/2022 10:12

You're paying for everyone's plane tickets and accommodation? Bloody hell. How many guests are you having?

MySecretHistory · 11/04/2022 10:13

@ShotgunSummerWedding

The destination is a long weekend, our guests have leave and passports. It’s 14 people. Please stop inventing problems where there aren’t any.

I know MN doesn’t anything that shows wealth- but money really isn’t a problem here and people will be compensated for attending. I’m not really going to comment on it any more.

A wedding is an invitation not a summons You invite people, they accept or decline.

You don't demand their presence.