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to not tell anyone about my ‘legal wedding’?

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ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 09:42

I should be so happy, but I’m so upset by my family’s reaction. I know MN is usually well in favour of the married couple to be doing whatever they wish, but just really want to vent and hear some similar stories. I want to preface this by saying I am my parents only child.

Me and my fiancé are due to welcome our baby girl in June after miscarriages and general misery. This pregnancy is going well and I am feeling a bit more hopeful each day that we will meet her. We really wanted to be married and have a lovely small family wedding before DC, but the first pregnancy was unplanned and stuck us on the TTC treadmill as we tried to regain what we had lost. We thankfully have, and now marriage is back on the cards. Before it stopped being a priority as the only thing I cared about was being pregnant again.

Now I am and we definitely want to get married before the baby is born. First and foremost, we want to be a legal family and cement that before she is here. Practically, we are also worried about the medical aspects of not being each other’s next of kin (particularly if anything goes wrong at birth). My partner is also a foreign national and if we are not married at birth it is notoriously difficult for her to get his citizenship without a lot of paperwork and expense. Financially too, he is worried about me being a SAHM and not having the legal protections of marriage, particularly if he died before we planned a wedding.

So we booked a registry office for next month and have given notice to marry. This would be our ‘legal’ wedding in jeans and trainers, just tick off all of the above. Our witnesses will be two friends. No one else.

I don’t want family there because I am still not very well and I’m terrified that something will happen to my baby. If my family are there then that ceremony becomes my wedding day and it will be forever tainted. Also, my fiancé’s family are not able to travel at the moment and I do not want my MIL and FIL to feel excluded. This ceremony is our legal protection together. Nothing more.

We do want a wedding though. Next year we are then going to take our family and friends on a destination wedding blessing next year and have bridesmaids, a cake, speeches and a nice party. When I am hopefully happier and in a better mental place after my daughter arriving safely.

I told my mother my plans (not set dates, just intentions) and she was furious and unkind. She is usually a lovely, non-toxic person. In her eyes, the vows are the most important thing and she is will be heartbroken if she doesn’t see them. She told me that if I am just going to see my marriage as a piece of paper, then I may as well bin my engagement ring and get a plastic one Confused

She eventually calmed down and sent me a text saying that she was sad, but I needed to do what was right for my family. I though this was her blessing and tried to talk to her a little more ‘would you like to know when we book somewhere?’ ‘Would you like pictures?’ but she quickly got angry and asked to be there. I explained all of the above, and she still didn’t get it and pulled faces. I have tried to get her excited about our ceremony next year, asking about bridesmaid’s dresses and planning dress shopping, but she rolled her eyes and said if my destination wedding guest list was so small then there was no point.

I’m at a loss of what to do. She keeps asking me about it but everything I say upsets her. I’m currently in the mindset that I want to just say “we’re not doing that because of how you have acted” but just go and do it anyway. And to tell no one. This is actually what my dad has advised…

But it just feels so untruthful Sad I’m so excited to be married and this just feels like something else (like my pregnancy) that has been ruined.

OP posts:
PussInBin20 · 11/04/2022 10:13

But I guess to your DM (and me) the marriage would have already been well underway. Usually the marriage and the celebration happen together so I can get that it would seem a bit late when you have already been married some months.

However, if this is what you want, just do it quietly and don’t mention it to her again until nearer the celebration. You never know she may come round by then, or you might not even want to do the celebration abroad with such a young baby. You won’t actually know what having a baby is like until they are here and it’s harder than you think!

Good luck though.

Radziwill · 11/04/2022 10:14

Oops - cross-posted. 14 guests isn't so bad, but even then I'm surprised you'd rather pay for all those tickets and hotel rooms than just get married in the UK!

PragmaticWench · 11/04/2022 10:15

I totally understand why you're worried about your baby, that's natural and difficult to deal with. However I think you're excluding your Mum from your actual wedding because your PIL can't travel. That's quite unfair on her, most people would be devastated to miss their child's legal marriage because someone else can't get there.

Teeturtle · 11/04/2022 10:15

@ShotgunSummerWedding

Just because to clarify- people are getting distracted with the destination wedding.

This is how we always wanted to get married.
The country is meaningful to us.
This was the plan before the miscarriages.
This is how we want to get married.
We are paying for everything, I mean everything.

Please don’t derail saying this shouldn’t happen- this is how our wedding has always wanted to be and our parents have known about this.

Unfortunately baby loss hell hasn’t made me want to chuck on my sunglasses and Panama hat and get going.

I won’t be able to enjoy anything until my daughter is here safely.

But you are not having a estimation wedding! You are having a holiday and playing dress up pretending that you are getting married.

Now I think your mother needs to go along with your wishes for your wedding day. But your wedding is the registry office thing and if she doesn’t want to come to your destination party, then I think that is her choice.

I also cannot make any sense of your thinking about baby and wedding day with your family. It makes no sense whatsoever.

ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 10:16

@PragmaticWench

I totally understand why you're worried about your baby, that's natural and difficult to deal with. However I think you're excluding your Mum from your actual wedding because your PIL can't travel. That's quite unfair on her, most people would be devastated to miss their child's legal marriage because someone else can't get there.
So I exclude DP’s mum?

That doesn’t seem fair to me either. She is recovering from surgery and it’s really not her fault.

OP posts:
Genevieva · 11/04/2022 10:17

Invite your mum. Even if you are in jeans and takes 20 minutes. It is a key right of passage and not inviting her will cause a lasting sadness. You need a witness. Let it be her.

Teeturtle · 11/04/2022 10:17
  • destination not estimation!
ShotgunSummerWedding · 11/04/2022 10:17

@Radziwill

Oops - cross-posted. 14 guests isn't so bad, but even then I'm surprised you'd rather pay for all those tickets and hotel rooms than just get married in the UK!
Our family aren’t all in the UK…
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Ilikecheeseontoast · 11/04/2022 10:17

My mum was equally crazy during the run up to my wedding. She’s usually kind and logical. She made it all about her and couldn’t understand why I didn’t want a fuss. Inviting people to stand outside the registry office and throw confetti. Insane. Stand your ground and do it secretly if you have to.

Genevieva · 11/04/2022 10:19

Rite of passage

Genevieva · 11/04/2022 10:19

@Teeturtle - I had the same problem. Predictive text is so annoying.

1Week2Day3Month · 11/04/2022 10:20

If you have booked registery office with 2 friends

I don't understand why you are discussing that days plans with other people ?

Save the discussions for the future "wedding" party

MySecretHistory · 11/04/2022 10:21

@Ilikecheeseontoast

My mum was equally crazy during the run up to my wedding. She’s usually kind and logical. She made it all about her and couldn’t understand why I didn’t want a fuss. Inviting people to stand outside the registry office and throw confetti. Insane. Stand your ground and do it secretly if you have to.
Did you invite your mother to your wedding?

If so not like the OP at all who isnt inviting her mother to her wedding.

LinesAndDot · 11/04/2022 10:23

It’s not your mum’s fault your PIL are recovering from surgery and can’t travel. You have one set of parents who can attend and another who can’t. Why are you punishing the ones that can attend?

I agree the vows are the most important part of a wedding ceremony. Invite them both to the Registry and whoever can make it, can.

HardbackWriter · 11/04/2022 10:24

I think you're being completely reasonable in your plans (and I understand the anxiety and horror of pregnancy when previous losses have left you convinced that you'll never have a healthy baby - it's absolutely horrible and you have all my sympathy, OP. I now have a healthy nearly four year old and just remembering how I felt in that pregnancy upsets me). But I think just stop talking about it to your mum. It sounded like she'd grudgingly accepted it and then you started asking if she wanted photos - while you didn't mean it that way at all, that was quite a hurtful thing to ask someone about an event that they've asked to be invited to and told no. And really, should there be pictures? If you've decided the legal bit is just that, then I think that's how you should treat it - no one has snaps of them signing a mortgage deed! If you want your mum to accept that it's just a formality ahead of the real wedding then I think the best thing is just to stop talking about it, and particularly to not talk about any aspect of it that might make it seem like an event or celebration in its own right.

Blueelephantsw · 11/04/2022 10:24

Similar scenario happened with a good friend of mine and her DM was distraught at missing the real vows. My friend had just wanted two witnesses but in the end her DM came and it was with the blessing of the IL’s who did not want to be the cause of having the DM miss her DD’s actual wedding day. It helped that the IL’s also had a daughter and they absolutely appreciated that whilst the MIL couldn’t make it, the DM shouldn’t need to suffer. You should definitely do what ever will make you happy but if it is going to really hurt your DM then it seems a shame particularly if you normally have a good relationship with her.

whosaidtha · 11/04/2022 10:25

Whatever you call it the legal bit is your wedding. The party is a party. It's not really the same. Your mum isn't invited to her only daughters wedding. She has every right to be sad. I would be. She's also going to be sad at your party when she remembers she wasn't invited to your wedding. It makes it worse that two friends are invited over her.

Beees · 11/04/2022 10:26

I understand why you think the big wedding idea is important but honestly I agree with your mum. Your wedding is the day you say your vows at the registry office, no matter how you spin it this is the actual point at which you get married. The party abroad is just that, a party.

She naturally wants to see you get married and I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that she wants to be at your wedding. I would invite her to see you say your vows, that's the important part and everything else is just material.

Chickychoccyegg · 11/04/2022 10:26

My sil had a destination wedding, the wedding wouldn't be legal in the UK, so they went to ax register office to get legally married first, this was basically seen as an appointment they must attend, neither of them considered it their wedding day, and they took their next door neighbours who wouldn't be going to the destination wedding as witnesses, no photos, just done it and went back to work, no telling anyone the exact date, it's been made more of an issue, by giving too much detail thats all.
If you give details and take photos, it's definitely your wedding day.

JudgeRindersMinder · 11/04/2022 10:30

@Dinoteeth

Op forget the destination wedding - have a very small two friends, both sets of parents and go for dinner. Save yourself a fortune
This. If you do the destination thing you’ll probably find that people aren’t very interested because you’re already married, it’ll be a load of expense for what could potentially be a great big disappointment
purplesequins · 11/04/2022 10:31

I think your plan is fine and your mother needs to get over it.

she is very unreasonable.

maybe biased as dh and I did similar - quick registry office wedding as I was pregnant followed by a big dinner with all family later.

thatweirdhippygirl · 11/04/2022 10:31

Do it your way OP. Fuck everyone else.

We eloped. My mother absolutely lost her shit and hasn’t spoken to me since. Honestly, the trash took itself out. The people that love you will be happy for you.

Everyone else was happy for us, and if they were upset about not being invited, they kept it to themselves.

Glamora · 11/04/2022 10:32

@ShotgunSummerWedding

The destination is a long weekend, our guests have leave and passports. It’s 14 people. Please stop inventing problems where there aren’t any.

I know MN doesn’t anything that shows wealth- but money really isn’t a problem here and people will be compensated for attending. I’m not really going to comment on it any more.

people will be compensated for attending

eh? what does this mean

tirednewmumm · 11/04/2022 10:32

@ShotgunSummerWedding

Just because to clarify- people are getting distracted with the destination wedding.

This is how we always wanted to get married.
The country is meaningful to us.
This was the plan before the miscarriages.
This is how we want to get married.
We are paying for everything, I mean everything.

Please don’t derail saying this shouldn’t happen- this is how our wedding has always wanted to be and our parents have known about this.

Unfortunately baby loss hell hasn’t made me want to chuck on my sunglasses and Panama hat and get going.

I won’t be able to enjoy anything until my daughter is here safely.

But you're not getting married there! You're getting married here and people are being invited to a party abroad to celebrate with you. Now that's totally fine, you can of course do what you want. But that's what it is so no point pretending otherwise!
Alexisrose16 · 11/04/2022 10:33

I would invite your mum, she has probably dreamed of this since you were a little girl. You are her only child, whilst I understand you don’t want to exclude your mil because of surgery please don’t let this be a reason. You only have one mum, she loves you and wants to see you be happy on one of the happiest days of your life.