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Aibu to wonder what Russia is up to in Ireland..

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Chamomiltea · 10/03/2022 21:59

Reading this was a shock, given recent events... www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/0310/1285699-russian-embassy-orwell-road-irish-government/

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SwimmingOnEggshells · 11/03/2022 20:40

Well that's the thing, the way this person was going on was like the Russians were a law onto themselves, complete lack of respect. I wish I paid more attention at the time!

alexdgr8 · 11/03/2022 20:42

@Crocodilesoup

"Southern Ireland" is commonly used among Protestants in NI. It's not the correct term. Just as "the North of Ireland" is commonly used among Catholics, even though it's not the correct term.
i guess that's the point, it's making a political point. they don't want to dignify the rep of ireland with its own name. i have found english people who do it, have a kind of faux ignorance, as if they thought it was correct. probably the same group who say they thought calling black people coloured was more polite. there's genuine ignorance, and then there's cussedness, and barely veiled deliberate disrespect. some people just want to be obnoxious, without the courage to admit it.
YeOldeTrout · 11/03/2022 20:48

Back to the 13 toilets... come the apocalyse (caused by Russian war-mongering I suppose and why they thought they needed a bunker) -- won't the water stop pumping? Where would the flushing water come from? In which case, who wants to be stuck in a basement with the large number of people who need 13 toilets, when the toilets aren't working?

Something tells me they haven't thought this one through...

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/03/2022 20:48

@SwimmingOnEggshells

Well that's the thing, the way this person was going on was like the Russians were a law onto themselves, complete lack of respect. I wish I paid more attention at the time!
Could you give them a call and tell them we all want an update? Perfectly reasonable request...
yodaforpresident · 11/03/2022 20:49

Yes, the airport was something else - I remember these weird, circular tin things on the really low ceiling and the soldiers. Various people had things removed from their luggage - I was lucky as they only took the chocolate that my mother had packed for me in an outside pocket. Everywhere we went we had people asking to buy stuff - our coats, trainers, basically anything we had. The people just looked so ground down.

SwimmingOnEggshells · 11/03/2022 20:49

@alexdgr8 of course, the fact they can pop over to Britain via NI with no checks must have something to do with it.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/03/2022 20:49

@YeOldeTrout

Back to the 13 toilets... come the apocalyse (caused by Russian war-mongering I suppose and why they thought they needed a bunker) -- won't the water stop pumping? Where would the flushing water come from? In which case, who wants to be stuck in a basement with the large number of people who need 13 toilets, when the toilets aren't working?

Something tells me they haven't thought this one through...

They had their own water and electricity included in the plans. You know the way you'd need them for a storage room.
SwimmingOnEggshells · 11/03/2022 20:54

@OchonAgusOchonOh i wish I had the balls to get in touch! Do t know them well enough unfortunately.

But it was the strangest thing; this person was the loveliest; so kind, chatty, and a consummate professional - so it was an eye opener to say the least!

yodaforpresident · 11/03/2022 20:54

For all we know they could have their own borehole with a treatment plant. They’re not that hard to put in if the water table is not too low.

YeOldeTrout · 11/03/2022 20:55

How much water stored, though... I mean, I'm reading 4 toilets per 100 men ( assume they are all blokes). So 13 toilets == call it 300 people.

Allow just 3 flushes/day per person, and just 6 litres/flush. 18 litres/day per person. And say only 100 persons after all.

That's 1.8 cubic metres/day. 18 cubic tonnes for a 10 day supply of flushing water.

54 cubic metres (tonnes of water) if 300 people.

Those of you who have read the plans, How big is the water storage compartment?

YeOldeTrout · 11/03/2022 20:57

And what would the electricity run off of -- assume the grid is dead. They must store their own petrol for generators, how much petrol would they need to store? Big hospitals have this problem, right, ventilation etc.

Can you imagine planning to store all that petrol safely in the building safely...

I wonder what big embassies in London have planned.

Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:04

@Frazzled50yrold

'There's Northern Ireland (that's the bit you say you live in hmm) and then there's Ireland aka the Republic of Ireland' I'm fairly confident about where I live thank you and I also agree that these clarifications are important.End of derailing the thread now, for me at least.
Well said 😁 and of coarse theres Derry another part of Ireland that some people get confused about ! 😁Anyway as you said end of derail !😄
Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:05

@Wellshellsbells

Oh no! I hope the Russians don’t invade us! We are still dealing with the aftermath of the English invasions!we can’t afford more counties !!!
Brilliant 😄😄😄
Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:11

@Chamomiltea

While the border with Northern Ireland allows easy access to the UK, a base in Ireland also offers other political opportunities. "Ireland sits as a neutral country outside NATO but within the EU. Russia loves putting its diplomatic knife into that crack and wiggling." Gulp.
Oh please 🤣 like we havent dealt with wose than the Russians 🤣 Besides the Russians wont have to cross a border once Boris breaks international law and gets rid ! Brexit biting ones ass I do belive ?😄
YeOldeTrout · 11/03/2022 21:13

Planning permission not required to drill own (small) borehole in RoI.

Still reliant on sewage systems and electricity to take waste away.

Would they be more sensible to install composting toilets in the subterranean bunker? Then they could use the waste to try to grow food eventually, too.

Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:15

[quote Bintymcbintface]@ochonagusochonoh The island of Ireland is two different countries, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland[/quote]
Sweet singin Jaysus what rock did you crawl out from under 🤣🤣🤣
Ignorance breeds fear , I feel sorry for you. Nah not really 🤣

Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:17

@Monty27

We're talking about Russia? Lol
I like it 🤣
Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:19

@Bintymcbintface

Map
Oooh scary 🤣why dont you bring up a map of the British Empire and pretend ye own that too 🤣 This threads a laugh a min 🤣
JaneJeffer · 11/03/2022 21:20

I'm able to divine water. I may be useful to the Russians.

JaneJeffer · 11/03/2022 21:21

Shh @Mocara we've moved on

SwimmingOnEggshells · 11/03/2022 21:27

Just learned they bought the embassy building in the mid-60s which is right at the start of the Cold War.

SunscreenCentral · 11/03/2022 21:35

T H I S

Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:36

@FlyingIsEasy

There are international standards for how to refer to countries so as not to upset or disrespect anyone.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-standards-for-government/country-codes

The global list has
United Kingdom
Ireland

Within the United Kingdom the break-downs are
England
Northern Ireland
Scotland
Wales

Anything else depends on the context and who is doing the talking, but using "Ireland" and "Northern Ireland" is the way least likely to upset or disrespect anyone so it is what I use.

Well said 👏👏but that is a big ask , that people show respect for nations . Particularly ones they took by force and continue to occupy .
Mocara · 11/03/2022 21:55

@lorking

The prejudice against the Irish that you see here on every thread is ridiculous.
But not surprising , but I supose if you live in a country with a controlled media and education system we can be surprised at the level of ignorance.Now back to talking about Russia 😄
Mocara · 11/03/2022 22:06

@eggandonion

I thought athletes represent uk or Ireland according to their sporting body. So boxing is all Ireland, so NI boxers are in the Irish team? TeamGB has been a brilliant marketing strategy.
If an athlete wins something there GB if they loose there northern Irish .