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beachcitygirl · 10/03/2022 12:22

Despite the bombing of a maternity hospital by Putin.
Today we find out exactly what Ukrainians need to do to gain asylum in the UK.

  1. Create an online account - on the home office website & fill in a lengthy and detailed application form.
  2. Upload proof that their qualifying family member has permanent residence status in the UK - they suggest a copy of the home office vignette embedded in the passport
  3. Upload proof of residence in the UKraine for a full year
4.Provide and upload proof of familial relationship with the family member. Birth certificates & marriage certificates of all concerned. 5.Make sure all documents are translated into English before uploading 6.Book and attend an IN-PERON appointment at a home office visa application centre in Poland, Hungary, Romania or France. So that officials can take biometrics and copies of all documents already uploaded. The booking system for appointment frequently crashes & the next available appointment as of today is in two weeks time - at any of the venues
  1. Get a tuberculosis vaccination & certificate - have it translated & upload
8.wait at SAME address while home office workers in the UK assess. Be available for phone or zoom interview.

In a fucking war zone. I despair. I truly despair & despise this government with all my heart. Patel is a sociopath & Johnson an idiot.

I'm ashamed 😓

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MidnightMeltdown · 11/03/2022 12:06

@Annoyedtoomuch

How are Poland and Germany etc doing it? They seem to have managed.

These are much bigger countries with smaller populations.

The UK has taken thousands of refugees from the Middle East, while Poland has taken hardly any, despite being 4 times the size and having a much smaller population.

I think that we should contribute money to help, but I don't think that we should be housing them here unless they already have family ties.

It's time that larger EU countries with smaller population densities took their fair share.

RoastedFerret · 11/03/2022 12:46

@sjxoxo

This is standard for any refugee and yes Ukraine is in a terrible terrible situation & we should offer generous help, but we should do / have done this for other nations also suffering conflict. Other nations have suffered terrible war and conflict and we have not had as much, if any, coverage. It’s a horrible, ugly truth that unconscious bias and racism still exists. x
I'm not in the UK so don't know but are Ukranian refugees being treated like any other refugee then like a lot of people here seem to be saying? Like they will have to claim asylum and if their claim is approved they will have the right to remain in the UK for as long as they like?
forinborin · 11/03/2022 14:44

I'm not in the UK so don't know but are Ukranian refugees being treated like any other refugee then like a lot of people here seem to be saying? Like they will have to claim asylum and if their claim is approved they will have the right to remain in the UK for as long as they like?
No, it is a visa scheme, not an asylum one. Allows residence and work for three years. Traditional asylum claims for Ukrainians are difficult as they are almost certainly coming to the UK from a safe country.

Ozanj · 11/03/2022 20:04

@RoastedFerret No it is a work visa. If a Ukranian wants to claim asylum they need to go to the first safe European country which is Poland. Ironic considering the Poles’ stance with Syrian refugees.

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